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pigger123 I know what you mean about not being motivated to clean when it's difficult. I have a hand vac which makes it easy, but it can freak the pigs out a bit so I usually try to pull them out--which means I have to set up a pen, and then clean up the inevitable mess of poops and spray (because, boars) or put down and gather up a whole fleece set-up. As a result, I often find myself dreading clean-up. I am thinking about just finding a way to get them more accustomed to the vacuum sound. Maybe give them treats at vacuum time so there is a pavlovian love, rather than panic.