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What's wrong with this kid?

RubyPiggie2

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My mom's fiance's son's girlfriend's 5 year old kid -

Wow. That's confusing, take a deep breath Amanda... Because I'm just about to burst!

This 5 year old, just a couple hours ago, burned down Randy and Jesse's (my mom's fiance's son and his girlfriend) house! They were living with Jesse's father... and Caleb is a big, big trouble maker / pyro. I can't believe he would do such a thing! The house died! I have never been so scared in my entire life.. What if the baby was still in there? (Randy and Jesse have a 13 month old baby together, while Caleb is NOT Randy's child) What if he couldn't get out, what is Caleb or Randy or Jesse or her father couldn't get out? Jesse called crying so badly about it... I don't blame her. They're going to stay at our house for a while until they can get back on their feet and find a new house.. Her father didn't have insurance either.. Not very smart, eh? Well... I guess now they know to get it!

My mom is suggesting that Jesse put Caleb in highland or something... Because Caleb is a VERY bad boy, hurts his own brother sometimes, steals, plays with fire, and now has burned down a house. Does anyone think this is too extreme? I think it's the perfect thing.. The kid's out of control.

So now they'll be here tonight.. We've already made rules.. Bedrooms off limits, my pigs off limits, not touching anything that is the girls (my sisters and my stuff) without asking, computer off limits, and doing chores since they're going to live here for a while. *My mom is going to put a lock on her door and keep all the matches/lighters and any fire things in her room away from Caleb*Anyone know how we can really enforce them though? Knowing Caleb and Randy they're bound to do something stupid and not follow the rules... I just wish there was a way that I could actually make sure they DON'T! *Do anything stupid...*

Sorry, I just had to vent.. I'm so mad at Caleb! I know, he's a young boy, but he should know not to set anything on fire.. Or even play with it.. But come on! He burned the house down!
 
I'm sorry to hear this. If it were my child, he would be seeing a psychologist and I would also reexamine how I was raising him. It doesn't seem like he has a firm foundation in understanding what's right and what's wrong, especially if he doesn't feel guilty for burning the house down.
 
Bou your mom has guts! Personally (even though the kid is 5) I would not let them into my house, for fear of something getting hurt..I have 5 year old twins, and believe me that get into their share of trouble, but they know better then to touch anything that starts a fire...Im so sorry to sound cold, but this child needs help...Theres something not right...I would put a lock on your bedroom door too, even though he was told not to touch anything..It wont stop him from sneaking in there! I wish you and your family the best! And try and convince them to get that little boy help....

Wow that is really scary...I could not imagine..I also have a 3 year old sonwho is into EVERYTHING, but I make sure that anything that is dangerous is out of arms reach..Its called "child-proofing" and all in all it does not work all the time...But ya have to do it, its apart of being a parent...

Good Luck and keep an eye on them piggies!
 
That's really scary. I agree he needs to dee a therapist of some sort.
 
That is scary! I thought it was scary when a boy in my grade burned down a building, but a 5 year old! Wow.
 
Lost_Soul... Don't feel bad saying it! He does need help.

I don't have a door, either. XD Not much to do about that, huh. With him here, I'm going to watch him like a hawk O_O Always watching... Plus, there's going to be 10 people living in our house ... Oh boy... so hopefully we'll be able to know where he is at at ALL times. Our house is big, but it's still going to be a bit crowded! >__<

When I talked about Highland-- It's basically a building that takes in the mad, the suicidal, the troublemakers, ect, and they have therapists and all those sorts that help them. Taking Caleb there would probably help him, even if it's just a little bit, and he'd be totally away from any kind of fire.. Or anything that starts fires..

We have piggies in two different locations- In my sisters room and downstairs.. So we could probably lock my sisters room (or bring the piggies in the computer room where there IS a lock... hehe guess why...) and then I can just watch the piggies all the time. Caleb is awfully interested in them... o_O

I just hope everything goes okay... and they can get a new house soon..

Edit--- I don't know if this matters, but he would still be a 4 year old if his birthday hadn't been last week! Just turned 5.. And already causing this big of trouble!!
 
Oh my gosh, that's so awful! I'm glad everyone is okay though. Definatly lock up those piggers every second you aren't right next to them. Kids that young don't always understand how animals have feelings too, and seeing has how this kid is I wouldn't trust him a bit around a critter.
 
NOt to mention that if he starts a fire, who know what he would try to do to the piggies.
 
are his parents bad parents or something? Not to be rude but kids always learn from an adult, they usualy never do this on their own time.
 
Update--

The entire house was burned- EVERYTHING went down. Nothing was left, no walls were even standing! My mom came back and so did her fiance- There were 12 fire trucks there! They went to my mom's friends house and her friend donated a whole bunch of clothing and things for the boys...

They're going to stay in the basement.. GREAT... That's where I am and my piggies... -.- Now I REALLY have to keep an eye out for the pigs.
 
If the child started the fire the police will eventualy figure it out. The 5 year old can always go to "Fire Prevention Classes" It teaches kids not to play with fire (bad children) they use scare tattics to teach them. (My parents are firefighters and told me to tell you)
 
That's interesting! Tell your parents thanks, I hope that'll happen and teach him a lesson!
 
Your welcome! I hope his parents see into it! I know this one kid who did it and he was real bad. And it tottaly changed his view on fire. He realized what risk he was putting other people in that he didn't realize before.
 
I hope if it does happen, Caleb realizes it!

Just figured out, their car caught on fire too. The only thing they have left is a truck that wasn't even there at the time! They have nothing... I feel really bad for them.
 
I agree with everyone. This child needs professional help. Hurting others and the other behaviors are not normal. I am so sorry it came to burning the house down. I am very thankful no one was hurt. I woud imagine the police will investigate. When they find out it was done by a child they should be able to give info where help for him may be given. Encourgae your family member to seek out this help. If this child does not get the help he needs worse things could happen. I do not speak lightly of this. My family had a tragedy. I am not sure if this is the place to write it. If you need more info you can E-mail me at [email protected] IF giving out your e-mail is wrong or against the rulels I am sorry. Would someone please let me know.
My heart goes out to you and your family. Please keep us posted.
 
Jesse told me what happened- A firefighter talked to Jesse and Caleb*the culprit:)* and is going to have Caleb in "class" and Caleb'll be able to meet all of his "friends", meaning, of course, his students. I'm guessing it's that class.

Jesse is very depressed about it.. I know she's trying to hide it and be optimistic, but she gave in while talking to me and said, "I don't know what I'm going to do... I'm going to cry all week.." Because she has another baby on the way and all of the things she used for her 13 month old was going to be used on this baby, and now they have to buy everything all over again, plus they lost EVERYTHING ('Cept themselves and thier children, thank God) My mom's helping out and is going to go to Value City and get clothes and stuff for the kids and Jesse, while I think Randy's father is going to help out Randy.

We're letting them stay here for a while.. They're in the basement.. We have a full bed and a full bed pull out couch, along with a television hooked up with a vcr and playstation 2.. and they can come upstairs whenever they want to eat and watch tv... so hopefully they don't get bored or anything... especially Caleb.

Caleb is actually being a very good boy though (but that dosen't mean that it can't happen again, it CAN, and I'm sure he's going to that Fire Prevention class) now that this has happened. He felt really bad, saying "I know I burned all our clothes and stuff." and being really down about it. He even asked his mom how her day went! She laughed at that and told him it was okay..but could've been better.. We're trying to make him feel better in a sense.. But we are NOT telling him what he did was okay. The police didn't need to investigate or anything because Caleb confessed to it, and Jesse knew that he did it anyways

Hunter, a 13 month old, was extremely close to being engulfed by the flames.. Which makes it terrifying. Jesse took Caleb out of the hallway through the back door, and then ran in to get Hunter but the hallway was engulfed in flames already. She had to run out and all the way to the front, and luckily the door wasn't locked... She usually locked it too... And went in and got Hunter really quickly. She said 30 seconds later he would have been surrounded by flames if she hadn't gotten there in time. It was traveling extremely fast, but I guess that's what fire does.

Suzi, thanks for the kind words. We all need them, we're extremely stunned by this- who knows what could've happened. I am sorry about your family's tragedy, whatever it may be, hopefully no one had been hurt if it was a fire.
 
Oh wow, I don't think I was expecting to read something like that when I opened this thread. But I'd have to agree with the advice that this kid needs some professional help. The whole family could maybe use some counseling because this is such an obviously traumatic event. Much strength to you & your family.

May I ask how it happened?

Ugh, I hate fire. It actually took me ages before I even dared to use matches. So I get really nervous around people who start playing with fire (ie. fooling around with candles or cigarettes, etc). I got goosebumps just reading this.
 
That's good that he is going to the classes, hopefuly it teaches him to never touch fire as a toy ever again. Good luck to your family and his.
 
This thread is really ironic. I just woke up this morning and my mom told me kids burned down my uncle's house last night.
 
Huh? What? Why? Was it a stupid prank? Did your uncle get out alright? Jeez, I hope they catch whoever did that.
 
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