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Getting Along The Anti-Pet Store Generalization

seagirl96

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Here's a great web site for anyone that can't find a rescue close by: Guinea Pig Home Listings - Main Index I see piggies "free to good home" most every week in our local reminder. Most communities have these little free papers where people can list things for sale. Pet store piggies are usually sick or pregnant.
 

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Wow. Unbelievable. My family has decided to get a Guinea Pig. My daughter is 4 and has been trying to talk us into a pet for quite some time. We have decided to try and give the little piggie the best that we can. So I decided to do a lot of research before we go and choose our new pet. I want to be sure I am well educated, and do things right. In doing so I happened across this site and decided to register. I thought it might be nice if I got to know some Cavy owners. I thought it would be a wonderful source of information.
Instead I found personal attacks on a new member, who by the way never disagreed that it isn't a wonderful thing to rescue a pet. She only said that for some people, a petstore is their only "reasonable" option if they would like to have a Guinea Pig. If you aren't one of those people, Good for you. But to personally attack this person's character is uncalled for.
I have changed my mind. I would not like to come back and learn from any of you. It scares me that it might rub off. I don't want to become so obsessed with an animal that I forget how to properly interact with humans.
By the way, I will be going to a petstore for our new little piggie. I HAVE researched the rescue option. I would have to travel at least 4 hours away. I will not be doing that. Not because I am lazy. But because I am a mother of two young children, work 2 jobs from home,and my husband works 2 jobs as well. With gas being the price that it is, I will not travel out of state for a Guinea Pig. Say what you would like, call me what you will. Unlike the member that you trashed earlier, I will not be shedding any tears. I don't care what you think. I have more important things to worry about.
There are very few places that are an exception to the rule.
As I have said... I live in a rural area, there are no pig rescues within 4 hours of me, and shelters don't accept pigs. There is, however, a Petco (several of them, in fact) within a 20-30 minute radius of me ... Where there are Petco's selling pigs, there ARE adoptable pigs looking for homes. Guaranteed.
It happens every day...People impulse buy not knowing how high maintenance they are, they buy pregnant or mis-sexed pigs and wind up with litters, their kids become bored with their pig, they aren't any fun, and a list of various other excuses why people wind up wanting rid of their guinea pigs.
There's petfinder, freecycle, news papers, there is even an adoptables forum right here on this website..and if you can't find anyone offering pigs then it takes very little effort to place your own ad asking for adoptable pigs in any of these places or by posting signs at the local vets and feed stores etc.
Most rescues are willing to transport half way or more to home their pigs in good homes.
In 99% of cases "a petstore is their only "reasonable" option if they would like to have a Guinea Pig" is piss poor way of saying "I simply want the gratification of having THIS species of pocket pet, right now, and I am unwilling to put the leg work and time into saving ones life rather than funding animal abuse".

I adopted 7 baby pigs in October, even though I live in a rural, rescue-less area. How? I posted a want ad, right here on this website, and I had patience. A month later a member on another website contacted me. We each drove half the distance (an hour or so each) for me to get the piggies. Since then I have learned of no less than 3 people local to me that bought pregnant pigs and had babies that needed homes.

With a little bit of leg work, time, and patience you almost always can adopt...and it is a much more valuable lesson to teach your kids.
I have two kids, a working husband, and plenty of commitments.... if 4 hours of my time was too much....well, then I wouldn't need to own pigs, and you probably shouldn't either. They are expensive and time consuming little animals. If you don't have 4 hours to commit to a pet, and to give your kids a valuable and touching lesson, then you don't need pets.
You can get angry and shout "nana nana boo boo I am going to purchase at a pet store to spite you" all you want, but it only makes you look like the shallow, reckless, and heartless fool. My hands and conscious are clean. I am sorry for you, and your kids, and especially your future pigs.
I only hope your pigs aren't sick and dead within a few short months as many pet store pigs are. What a terrible thing for your kids. All to save you a little time. *shaking head*

By the way, just for the record. If you, or the original poster read any of the policies and guidelines you would know this website is run by a rescue that deals with pet store rejects every day. You would know this website is strictly pro animal. You have no more right to come here, reject our opinions, and then cry foul when we bark up your tree....than you would if you went to an anti abortion rally and waved your pro choice poster. Same difference. Get over it.
 

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Thanks This Lil Piggy. It may sound harsh to people that haven't seen piggies raised in deplorable conditions BUT you are supporting really horrible animal abuse if you support the pet stores and thereby the pet mills.

I also have to ask: if you and your husband both work two jobs, have two small children and don't have the time or money to drive four hours, WHY are you buying piggies?

Piggies are NOT apropriate for small children.

Piggies, especially pet store piggies who come with health problems or bonus pigs are expensive.

Piggies are time consuming. Fresh veggies morning & night, frequent cleaning to keep them fresh & healthy, lots of love & attention.

I am asking as a kindness to yourself to try an adoptable cat, an adult cat with a good record with children, who will tell you when it needs love and can defend against overzealous loving children. Fresh water, fresh food and clean litter box = less time & more interaction for busy people. A cat will jump on your lap & tell you if you forget to fill the water or food. Piggies can't do that and most of us can see these piggies are going in a pet store cage with inadequate diet & get recycled because they're "boring".
 

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I do hope you all realize that dawnloretta has been banned and therefore cannot answer your questions. She can read what you write if she so chooses but that is all.
 

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I realized that. Banned on her first post, she did a bang up job lol
But, There is that small glimmer of hope that she, or other people considering going the pet store route, will read my reply and minimally at least consider that their choice is a poor one, and there are options for adopting in area's where there are no rescues.
 

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The reason I said what I did is because she was being asked questions and has no way to respond. I will say she did try to rejoin not once but twice and was caught and banned again.
 

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Might I ask why she was banned? Don't get me wrong I came here looking to respond to her post, but after reading what others'wrote I figured the job had already been done. But I am curious as to why she was banned.
 

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The original reason really isn't important, but the fact that she has created 2 other IDs to try and get back on the forum is a bannable offense in itself.
 

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Thank God you guys catch these idiots! I, for one, couldn't care less anymore if she comes back. She is NOT interested in learning anything - or being good to her pigs. She only intends to upset everyone. Don't waste your breath on her!

I just feel so sorry for her pigs (and her kids!) - and anyone else unfortunate enough to have to deal with her. Ugggh. She just tires me out! I'm so glad she's gone. Thanks again mods.
 

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Ok, it is probably moot to actually post this, but it is really rubbing me the wrong way. I am so tired of the "I'm a working parent, I have no time to find a rescue" excuse I see pop up from time to time, like in this thread. 1) If you have no time to do something as simple as getting online to check out petfinder, etc, and find yourself a guinea pig or two in need, how are you going to find time to give the pet the care it needs? 2) I personally have no tolerance for such an excuse being in a busy situation myself. Maybe it is a big egotistical of me to say, but I'm in school carrying a 16 hour credit load, raising four children, and spending 50-60 hours or more a week studying simply to keep up on my work. But lo and behold, I found time to drive 3 hours to get a pig, I find time to see to their care and feeding, I find time to take them to the vet.
 

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It all boils down to selfishness and laziness, for those that continually make excuses.
 

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This entire issue is terribly pathetic. I can't stand how people simply refuse to believe that abuse, neglect and carelessness all happen and they happen at pet stores. People expect to go into a PetSmart or PetCo, pick up the animal of their choice, and just play with it whenever they see fit. I personally blame laziness and such on American culture, because the majority of us (that is to say, me and the other Americans) are used to having everything handed to us off a silver platter with our name engraved in the center.

I was offered a job at PetSmart a couple weeks ago. I am seriously considering accepting, so I can promote adoption and build-it-yourself cages to people that come in expecting to find temporary entertainment in the form of some poor furry soul.
 

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The Petsmart where I bought my first female, before I knew better, has one terrific employee who tries to make a difference. She made sure that my Ink Spot got veterinary care when I realized after two days that she was sick. She gave me good information about piggies & recommended guinealynx, which led me here.

Yesterday I purchased coroplast from the sign store around the corner from this Petsmart and they knew why I wanted it!! They said that Petsmart sends a lot of people to buy coro from them! This is Amber's doing. She is very quiet & soft-spoken and has a long talk with anyone purchasing a piggy. She can't undo the harm that the store does, but it is a start.

However, if I were you, I would not take the job if I could find another. Unless the manager is very tolerant & will look the other way, you will probably end up fired for giving customers information that costs the store money. Your job will be to sell tiny cages and useless accessories. In Amber's case, her store rarely has piggies in their piggy cage. They seem to forget to order them! What I am trying to say is that unless you find sympathetic management in this one particular store you will be sooo busted, probably after only a few weeks.
 

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I'd say take the job, I work in the petcare department at petsmart and I love it. It feels wonderful, when I sell a guinea pig to a customer because I know i'm giving them the right info, as well as info on adopting guinea pigs and building cages. Working at a petstore has made me feel almost like a middle person, because I am between customers buying guinea pigs and other animals, and here were its anti-petstore, but I feel like i'm making difference, and thats what counts.
 

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you will probably end up fired for giving customers information that costs the store money.

That would be the case for me. I'd give the people the correct info, and then tell them to leave the store, because most of what is in the store is utter crap. I doubt they'd want me working there for long!

when I sell a guinea pig to a customer because I know i'm giving them the right info

Yeah, sorry but they're not getting the right info if they buy the pig!
 

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you will probably end up fired for giving customers information that costs the store money.

That would be the case for me. I'd give the people the correct info, and then tell them to leave the store, because most of what is in the store is utter crap. I doubt they'd want me working there for long!

when I sell a guinea pig to a customer because I know i'm giving them the right info

Yeah, sorry but they're not getting the right info if they buy the pig!

No need for attitude...and thats why I feel like i'm the middle man most of the time. I will not tell customers to leave the store, that would be rude. Its their decision weather they want to adopt or not. I nor you can change a person. What I do however is inform them on adopting options and I tell them about this site. Everyone at my store knows i'm the one most experienced with guinea pigs so when they have a person who wants to get a guinea, they call for me. By the way, one of my managers is building a C&C for her chinchilla, so I dont think I have to worry about them firing me for sending people to target and TAP plastics to build a cage.

As for your second comment, I have a prime example for you, I had a lady come in last night wanting to buy a girl to mate with her boy. I told her all the problems that G.P. have with pregnancy and she changed her mind instantly. Also, she had bought the male at another petsmart and the guy there gave her Vitakraft and he said thats all she would need, no veggies or nothing, so she bought the Mazuri brand and she's returning the Vitakraft. Now she knows the truth on veggies and what kind to give her G.P, info on adopting a male guinea pig as a friend for her "Spot" and this websites address. So please do not judge before you know the whole story ;)
 

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selfishness and laziness
And unfortunately, if a person is knowingly selfish and lazy about acquiring a pet, then they are 99.9% likely to also be selfish and lazy in their care of that animal, and they will take "self" over pet if it ever comes to being asked to choose, or if the pet takes up too much of their precious time. Lazy and selfish people are WHY rescues, and shelters are always cleaning up messes.
 

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And unfortunately, if a person is knowingly selfish and lazy about acquiring a pet, then they are 99.9% likely to also be selfish and lazy in their care of that animal, and they will take "self" over pet if it ever comes to being asked to choose, or if the pet takes up too much of their precious time. Lazy and selfish people are WHY rescues, and shelters are always cleaning up messes.

Too true, and I always ask my self...why do people like this want pets in the first place? Is it because they can say that they have one or what not? I dont understand.
 

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The original reason really isn't important, but the fact that she has created 2 other IDs to try and get back on the forum is a bannable offense in itself.
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond Percy's Mom - but thanks for the answer.
 

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...They said that Petsmart sends a lot of people to buy coro from them! This is Amber's doing. She is very quiet & soft-spoken and has a long talk with anyone purchasing a piggy. She can't undo the harm that the store does, but it is a start.

That is an amazing young girl. Wow. Someone should do something nice for her to thank her. Wish I lived nearby!

Unless the manager is very tolerant & will look the other way, you will probably end up fired for giving customers information that costs the store money. Your job will be to sell tiny cages and useless accessories.

Exactly what I was thinking...but hopefully, she'll find the "oh so rare" tolerant management others mentioned having.
 
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