Setsuna
Well-known Member
Cavy Slave
- Joined
- Dec 4, 2004
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Anyone else have trouble like me at NOT voicing their stance on breeders, breeding and animal rights to Family and Family friends who you KNOW arent going to listen?
God himself could come down and tell my neighbors all the dangers of Cavy breeding and the neighbor would say " oh no thats not what i heard, see : blah blah blah blah"
I was slammed a week ago when i realized that Koi was pregnant. This is because Stupid in the moment little person i was, I bought from the pet store instead of adopting. I didnt show my face on here for a while because of that...Yeah. I suck.
Anyway I was absolutely mizerable since ive read so much about the dangers of breeding and the possibilities of bad adopters and so on and so forth and ive learned my lesson in full. But my neighbors had recently gotten two piggies from a breeder. And they were determined to breed them.
When i first heard thier plans I was soft about what i said and tried not to be too pushy but to still suggest things like adoption instead. She( the mom next door) said she wouldnt want to do that because she wanted to have a piggy family.
Psh.. guess shes never heard of a family not connected by bloodline.
Still, I didnt want to make war with our neighbors, as they were pretty friendly and invited us to block parties and stuff. I was just trying to keep the peace.
Well now a few months later she asked me to come over and feel Keoni( the girl pig) to see if i could tell if she was pregnant. I couldnt tell but i couldnt handle being totaly quiet and i asked her a few questions about what shed do with the babies and if shed be makeing sure the adopters wouldnt breed them. She basicly told me shed make sure they could pay for their care and that thier children would be old enough to take care of them (her version of old enough, is 7 years old).
I challenged her again saying "yeah thats important but what about the people who might want babies too?"
She made a pause for a moment and i could see she was irritated and then she told me that shed take it case by case.
When her son was asking if she was pregnant the mom told him we still didnt know and he said he was excited. I said " Yeah its exciting i guess, but i was miserable when i found out about Koi being pregnant. They have about a 20% chanc of dieing because of the pregnancys you know...thats one out of five sows." (yeah, you can tell ive read these sites too much...<3)
She looked intimidated again and told me all about other thinsg shed heard and that teh mortality rate wasnt nearly that high and that it was all depentdant on age and since our piggies were young they would definitely have easy pregnancies. She gave me all this talk about how much she knew about it.
On the way out I questioned why shed want more piggies and she told me all the stuff about how she wanted to know thier nutritional history (yeah, my ass) and how she wanted tohave an immediate family and that this was the best way because breeders pigs are more healthy and youll know thier bloodline. And that if she got them from an adoption place that she could gte ones who didnt know what vegitables they should eat and would get sick.
I answered " Isnt that a bit like adopting but only picking the heartiest and letting the ones with a cold die?"
She got pretty offended with that and told me for at least 10 minutes all about how she had worked with children with disabilities and cared for invalids and knew all about this and then told me about how her life was just to human devouted right now to focus on possibly unhealthy animals or adopting. This made me think: "If you dont have time to take care of anything but people right now, why are you haveing babies?"
But i just said " I dont know, I just dont understand why youd want to make more piggies when there are so many out there already homeless."
Eventually she stopped and finally said " Well im SORRY you cant Understand." And opened the door for me with her face tight. you know, the kind of face you make when your trying to be polite when you want to just flick someone off.
I left and almost started crying when i went outside. I dont know how an equation can be so hard as this?
Your life + Piggies + makeing more piggies= the deaths of as many piggies as you make.
*sigh* Ive probably ruined the relationships between our faimilies. That woman isnt someone whos open to learning. A normal person can say something and then someone else tell them a few facts and theyll say "hmm, i guess your right" or "oh well maybe i was mistaken" but this woman is NO.
It dosent matter what you say. You could say you have a flesh eating worm in your leg and it hurt and shed inform you on the hirstory of flesh eating worms and how it dosent hurt because of blah blah blah and blah.
*sigh* I guess i should have just let HER go since I already know she cares not what anyoen else says.
God himself could come down and tell my neighbors all the dangers of Cavy breeding and the neighbor would say " oh no thats not what i heard, see : blah blah blah blah"
I was slammed a week ago when i realized that Koi was pregnant. This is because Stupid in the moment little person i was, I bought from the pet store instead of adopting. I didnt show my face on here for a while because of that...Yeah. I suck.
Anyway I was absolutely mizerable since ive read so much about the dangers of breeding and the possibilities of bad adopters and so on and so forth and ive learned my lesson in full. But my neighbors had recently gotten two piggies from a breeder. And they were determined to breed them.
When i first heard thier plans I was soft about what i said and tried not to be too pushy but to still suggest things like adoption instead. She( the mom next door) said she wouldnt want to do that because she wanted to have a piggy family.
Psh.. guess shes never heard of a family not connected by bloodline.
Still, I didnt want to make war with our neighbors, as they were pretty friendly and invited us to block parties and stuff. I was just trying to keep the peace.
Well now a few months later she asked me to come over and feel Keoni( the girl pig) to see if i could tell if she was pregnant. I couldnt tell but i couldnt handle being totaly quiet and i asked her a few questions about what shed do with the babies and if shed be makeing sure the adopters wouldnt breed them. She basicly told me shed make sure they could pay for their care and that thier children would be old enough to take care of them (her version of old enough, is 7 years old).
I challenged her again saying "yeah thats important but what about the people who might want babies too?"
She made a pause for a moment and i could see she was irritated and then she told me that shed take it case by case.
When her son was asking if she was pregnant the mom told him we still didnt know and he said he was excited. I said " Yeah its exciting i guess, but i was miserable when i found out about Koi being pregnant. They have about a 20% chanc of dieing because of the pregnancys you know...thats one out of five sows." (yeah, you can tell ive read these sites too much...<3)
She looked intimidated again and told me all about other thinsg shed heard and that teh mortality rate wasnt nearly that high and that it was all depentdant on age and since our piggies were young they would definitely have easy pregnancies. She gave me all this talk about how much she knew about it.
On the way out I questioned why shed want more piggies and she told me all the stuff about how she wanted to know thier nutritional history (yeah, my ass) and how she wanted tohave an immediate family and that this was the best way because breeders pigs are more healthy and youll know thier bloodline. And that if she got them from an adoption place that she could gte ones who didnt know what vegitables they should eat and would get sick.
I answered " Isnt that a bit like adopting but only picking the heartiest and letting the ones with a cold die?"
She got pretty offended with that and told me for at least 10 minutes all about how she had worked with children with disabilities and cared for invalids and knew all about this and then told me about how her life was just to human devouted right now to focus on possibly unhealthy animals or adopting. This made me think: "If you dont have time to take care of anything but people right now, why are you haveing babies?"
But i just said " I dont know, I just dont understand why youd want to make more piggies when there are so many out there already homeless."
Eventually she stopped and finally said " Well im SORRY you cant Understand." And opened the door for me with her face tight. you know, the kind of face you make when your trying to be polite when you want to just flick someone off.
I left and almost started crying when i went outside. I dont know how an equation can be so hard as this?
Your life + Piggies + makeing more piggies= the deaths of as many piggies as you make.
*sigh* Ive probably ruined the relationships between our faimilies. That woman isnt someone whos open to learning. A normal person can say something and then someone else tell them a few facts and theyll say "hmm, i guess your right" or "oh well maybe i was mistaken" but this woman is NO.
It dosent matter what you say. You could say you have a flesh eating worm in your leg and it hurt and shed inform you on the hirstory of flesh eating worms and how it dosent hurt because of blah blah blah and blah.
*sigh* I guess i should have just let HER go since I already know she cares not what anyoen else says.
, shy, not really open to adults like HER(BUT I'm getting better!! I've already talked back to an adult about it, and told her she needed to either keep them or find good homes before she had babies and NOT sell to a pet shop... she asked me about it...), I would definately write a letter. A LONG one. About pregnancy, and mostly about the cause of breeding. 
