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So I was on guinea pig cages forum when all of a sudden piper came up to kirby (who was sleeping) and started chattering! then he liked jumped on him and started almost like fighting, then chased each other around the cage. This is normal right? he's done this several times! He's just playing right?
 

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Most likely..How old are they? Males go through puberty around 8 months-a year. During this time they won't get along as well and can hump and chase each other around
 

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There only 8 weeks old! Is he just showing dominance?
 

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Hormones. How big is the cage?
 

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its a 2x3 multi level
 

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but the thing is it's only around night time that he act like that...
 

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Guinea pigs are more active at dawn and dusk.

Is the cage 2x3 on one level, with additions at the top, or there's only 2x3 counting all the levels? Guinea pigs need room to run, and a 2x3 is small for two boars, who really need more than that.
 

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With two you should try to expand it a bit, they might be growing and starting to feel crowded in a 2x3 (the loft unfortunately doesn't really count towards the overall size of the cage, its based on the largest floor since it has to do with their ability to run around- adding a loft actually can decrease this further because the ramp takes up space). Dominance is normal, but if they're only 8 weeks (and will get a lot larger) and starting this it might be a sign that you should expand the cage a bit.

How long have you had them? They might also be starting to get used to their environment more if they're new and starting to get into piggie business now that they're more conformable with their new environment.
 

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With two you should try to expand it a bit, they might be growing and starting to feel crowded in a 2x3 (the loft unfortunately doesn't really count towards the overall size of the cage, its based on the largest floor since it has to do with their ability to run around- adding a loft actually can decrease this further because the ramp takes up space). Dominance is normal, but if they're only 8 weeks (and will get a lot larger) and starting this it might be a sign that you should expand the cage a bit.

How long have you had them? They might also be starting to get used to their environment more if they're new and starting to get into piggie business now that they're more conformable with their new environment.

only 2 days....
 

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If you've only had them 2 days then its likely that your two boys have just gotten over the stress of moving and being in a new environment (usually takes a day or two, during which they're often quiet and seem to get along well since they're often huddling together for feelings of safety) and are now starting to "show their colors" and try to sort out rankings and territory possession. In my experience young piggies don't normally get in each other's face like that a lot (more just rumbling, chattering or mounting, not so much jump attacking) if they're going to get along, especially because they're still so small they don't feel crowded as easy, nor are they into the thick of "puberty" (though they're able to breed at about 3 weeks old, around 4-8 months their hormones seem to rage the most and they're most aggressive), so I'd probably look into expanding their cage a bit and making sure there are multiple hiding spots and doubles of items (like food bowls and water bottles so they're not fighting over resources). This will also probably be the worst time for their rank sorting as well because they're just starting to work it out, its effectively the first they've probably really paid much attention to each other as individuals in "their" territory and not just another meat shield in a foreign place which is nice to have around (safety in numbers) when you don't feel safe. The general rule of thumb is that as long as they're not drawing blood, leave them be, but giving them ample space will improve the odds of them getting along.
 

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More space is definitely the need. 2x3 is too small for two boars. A 2x4 is the minimum for two boars. For boars, you take the recommended cage sizes one size up
 

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I found out the problem! thanks I need to get a bigger food bowl! I though it was big enough! also there fighting over a corner so i am going to rearrange so they will have two dark corners :)
 
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Awesome glad to hear it
 

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