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Thank god that this website has made me aware this abuse. I feel ashamed that I didn't know of this before.. I will never buy an animal at a petstore again and I will tell everybody around me not to do so.
This disgusts me and it makes me furious, I can not understand the people that work in those places, don't they have feelings? or a consience? don't they feel guilt?
 

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is it wrong that I can't bring myself to open that link. I know what its gonna show. :weepy:
 

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I can not understand the people that work in those places, don't they have feelings? or a consience? don't they feel guilt?

This is a question that was asked many times following the atrocities of the mid-twentieth century. People wanted to know how ordinary people could end up doing bad things, so a series of classic experiments was carried out to try to find out. The most relevant one I can think of at the moment is the Stanford Prison Experiment:

"What happens when you put good people in an evil place? Does humanity win over evil, or does evil triumph?"

The answer is counter-intuitive and highly worrying.

Take a read, it may help you to answer your question:

The Stanford Prison Experiment: A Simulation Study of the Psychology of Imprisonment

Depressingly, and rather worryingly, evil seems to triumph in these conditions. People can do dreadful things when placed into a position where they are expected to do so. The notion of free will seems to disappear quickly. This is the concensus of dozens of psychologists who have sought to try to answer this issue. And yes, people who do cruel things do feel guilt to the point that it can torture them to insanity. Following some of these experiments, at least one person committed suicide and another letter bombed one of the researchers. And I work with war veterans, a small number of whom carried out terrible acts, and even though they did it "under orders", what they did haunts them until they day they die. The nonchalance and humour are defence mechanisms, which is one of the reasons butchers and fishmongers always have a strong sense of humour.

So the question we need to ask involves those who put people into the evil place in the first place. I try to put aside my instinctive anger towards these desensitised and cruel employees (but it's hard, believe me); instead, I blame the corporations that set up this inhuman system rather than people who ended up working for them, many of whom would have no idea what the job really involved before they got hired. You can say that these employees have the freedom of choice to leave the job once they see it for themselves, but all the research (and there are many, many other examples) suggests the opposite.

Likewise, most who buy that cute little cavy from the pet store have no idea at all about the horrors of breeding mills. This is why I'm glad people are working hard to get the information out there so that one day, maybe, just maybe, this horrific cycle of abuse may come to an end.

The one positive that keeps me going is the reaction in my own country to
the chicken out campaign, and others like it, that encourage people to buy free range eggs, for example. Free range eggs are now taking a much larger slice of the market. The example is not a perfect one, I give you that; even some free range hens suffer cruelty (especially the males who are disgracefully gassed to death because they are believed to be of no use). But it shows an admittedly flawed example of how purchasing power can cause even the big corporations to change their ways. Like I said, not a pefect example, but it shows how the average man and woman in the street can change the world through our decisions.
 
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There are, of course, notable exceptions to the rule. People whose vicious, evil psychopathy and utter contempt for living creatures goes above and beyond the cruelty of their paymasters. The following is the first one that springs to mind (graphic image follows and watch your blood pressure):

The PETA Files | Bunnies Drowned at Ohio Petland

This is by no means the worst example I could cite, but the picture of her smug, evil, heartless grin as she grips the animals she murdered is one of the most disturbing images I've ever seen.
 

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I think there was a time when people had no clue that there were pet mills and little or no knowledge of the cases of large scale animal abuse that's regularly in the news. You read about it in the paper, see it covered on TV and read about it online all the time now. Unless someone is really out of the mainstream, I think most people must realize where pet store animals come from and the conditions they are raised in.
 

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I think there was a time when people had no clue that there were pet mills and little or no knowledge of the cases of large scale animal abuse that's regularly in the news. You read about it in the paper, see it covered on TV and read about it online all the time now. Unless someone is really out of the mainstream, I think most people must realize where pet store animals come from and the conditions they are raised in.

Sadly, this is not my experience. While we as animal lovers have made ourselves aware of this, most people tend not to have any awareness at all. It might be different in the states, but over here in the UK, most people I talk to are genuinely surprised when I explain what goes on; and to be honest, a significant number simply don't care. Like the egg industry, there is a genuine lack of connection between the source and the "end product" - I use that terminology only to mirror corporate language; I would tolerate no animal I ever cared for being called a "product."

And then, even when people do see these terrible images, they soon lose interest as the next big headline hits. So it is up to people like us to make sure they never forget. It can seem a thankless task and one that has us labelled as "nuts" etc, but if we even change one person's opinion, then that is a significant result. The challenge I always face is how to keep the info out there without being criticised for preaching. But I think our biggest enemy is our assumption that people either know or care.
 

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I am a new guinea pig owner and have quickly become obsessed with learning how to take good care of my little girls. I got my first 2 sisters from a student of mine that had an accidental litter. I got my 2nd set of sisters from another family that could no longer care for them. I am happy that I did not have to resort to buying them from a pet store, however, just like everyone else here, I do have to buy supplies for the girls and I do not want to support stores that condone abusive practices. I have been solely shopping at my local Pet Supplies Plus. I have done a little research and have found fewer violations here, but there are still some. My question is where can I shop locally from an animal-friendly pet supply store? I live in Northwest Indiana- very close to Chicago area.

I have learned so much from these boards! Thanks everybody.
 
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