Not sure what to do!

[VoodooJoint]

Wouldn't 2 x 4 be 8 sqare feet (I thought one pig could live comfortably in a 7.5 square foot cage)?

Grids measure 14-15 inches square making the size of a 2x3 cage in inches 28" x 42" or if made with 15 inch grids 30" x 45".

 

[Johanna]

Who cares! This person has around 8 sqauare feet! Who care if it is a half an inch smaller on each side. Do you guys have nothing better to worry about than if a person has one guinea pig in a cage that is 6 sqare feet, or 8 sqare feet. Either way this pig probably gets more attention and care than 95% of the pig population. Everyone is here because they care about their pigs. Every pig here gets the best of care. The exact square footage means nothing! Whether you use feet or grids means nothing. You arent better than them because you do it a differnt way. Just let it go.

 

[aqh88]

It's not just a loss of an inch. What if instead of 2 inches shorter it was 4 inches shorter? Is that still ok? Or how about 6" shorter? At what point do you draw the line? That is why the guidelines exist. They draw the lines at what is needed to keep your guinea pig happy. The 2x4 is considered the minimum to keep the guinea pigs in the best health by almost all cavy owners that have kept various guinea pigs in various size cages. It has been proven that giving them this size cage instead of one 2" smaller does improve their health and quality of life. The difference between a 2'x4' cage and a 2x4 grid cage is a loss of 1/4th of the space that 2 guinea pigs NEED. For health, happiness, and comfort they need 10.5sq ft. Not 7sq ft. Not 8sq ft. They need a 14" wide cage. Not 10" or 8". There is no excuse for providing less than what has been proven to keep them healthy unless you don't care about giving your guinea pig the best life possible. Especially when provided with such a cheap solution. If it's only a few inches then why not provide those few inches? In that situation there is no reason not to give your guinea pig the best home. There are situations where providing a smaller area might be acceptable but when you have the space to expand a few inches out and the cost is so low to build a c&c cage I see no reason not to. I see only pointless excuses on why you can't provide your guinea pigs with the best care possible. I don't look down on the people who have too small of cages. I look down on the people who make excuses why they won't expand their cage when it is pointed out to them that it is too small.

 

[VoodooJoint]

Who cares! .... Who care if it is a half an inch smaller on each side.

If you failed to notice a lot of people care

Do you guys have nothing better to worry about than if a person has one guinea pig in a cage that is 6 sqare feet, or 8 sqare feet.

I have LOTS of better things to do then to keep explaining about size recommendations. I would think that someone who came to this site, and joined this forum would notice what this website is about. It's about building BIGGER cages. The reasons and how-tos are spelled out clearly. If people aren't here to improve your cage and your pets' lives then I am at a loss as to someone's motive on this site.

Every pig here gets the best of care.

Wrong. Not every GP owner here provides the best of care. That is why this forum exists to encourage the owner to start providing the best of care.

The exact square footage means nothing!

You're right the exact sq footing doesn't mean much as long as it meets or exceedes the minimum recommended size.

Whether you use feet or grids means nothing.

It obviously does mean something or we wouldn't be discussing it would we? Those inches add up. Those inches turn a 2x3 foot cage (6 sq feet) into a 7.5 sq feet cage when you use cube measurements. Compare your GP's size to that extra sq foot and a half. It would be like you adding an extra room onto your house. Imagine what you could do with a whole extra room!

You arent better than them because you do it a differnt way.

No one said they were better. People just feel inferior when they don't do all they can and know it.

Just let it go.

Nope, ain't gonna happen. Cage size is what this website/forum is all about.

 

[x0PiggyPerson0x]

*claps for voodoo* Good job...

 

[VoodooJoint]

When we talk about 2x4 C&C cages on this site, the dimensions are not 2 feet by 4 feet. It is 2 cubes x 4 cubes measuring 30"x50". A cage that is 2ftx4ft would measure 24"x48".

Oops, Ly, I think you made a typo. A 2x4 cube cage would measure 30x60 (not 30x50).

 

[CavySpirit]

Regarding Marchioro cages--The exact dimensions (with photos) are listed on this page: https://guineapigcages.com/petstorecages.htm. Yes, it's the biggest of the pet store cages, but it's still not big enough. Period. I know. I've had plenty of them during big rescues.

 

[CavySpirit]

Johanna: If they say their cage is 24 X 48 then it is!

What the heck kind of attitude is that? If they say the world is flat, then it is? I'm thinking you must be very unhappy on this forum. This is a thinking person's forum. We don't accept dogma here. We do question, probe, encourage and educate. I don't get your position at all.

If I had a nickel for every adopter who's told me they have a huge cage--how big? either 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 feet, I'd be rich.

 

[Ly&Pigs]

There is a difference between 2 feet x 4 feet and 2 cubes x 4 cubes. I didn't jump all over stitsy&codyPig, I was explaining the difference. We go by the inner usable dimensions of a cage, not what it measures on the outside. Everything has already been explained to you Johanna. I am not going to keep repeating myself, Teresa or Voodoo.

Oops, Ly, I think you made a typo. A 2x4 cube cage would measure 30x60 (not 30x50).

I quoted what it said on the main page for a 2x4 C&C. If you don't use connectors it would be 28x56. Maybe T has a boo boo on the main page? I'm not sure, just quoting what the main page says.

 

[VoodooJoint]

I quoted what it said on the main page for a 2x4 C&C. If you don't use connectors it would be 28x56. Maybe T has a boo boo on the main page? I'm not sure, just quoting what the main page says.

Yeah, there may be a couple of measurement typos on T's main page. I figured you may have hit the 5 instead of the 6 and didn't notice. I do crap like that all the time.

Since I don't use cubes I have most of the 14 cube size cage measurements memorized to make sure that cages I build are big enough. 15 inch cubes make them bigger and using the connectors instead of cable ties make them bigger yet!

 

[Ly&Pigs]

Also T has this down under the different cage sizes- Cage sizes quoted are the INNER, USABLE dimensions of the cage. So I guess it's correct for the inner size, but not the outer size.

 

[VoodooJoint]

Hmmm. I'm gonna have to check my math but I don't think 10 inches of inner space loss sounds right. Now my head hurts:headache:

 

[LuvMyPiggers]

*hands voodoo ice*

 

[Johanna]

There is a difference between 2x4 feet and 2x4 cubes. I never said there wasnt.

 

[CuteButShyPig]

Johanna if I was you I would just drop it, it sounds like you want to carry on a convo that doesn't need to be. You got the information you need and even though you didn't say there wasn't a difference you still had a "No care" additude which gets you nowhere. Sorry but I needed to add my two sense in, I hate when convo's are carried on in a negative way when they don't need to be.

 

[widallas]

Getting back to GP2 and her cage..... Another trick with your Dad might be to show him a picture of some cubes, and explain how much easier it is to move and store a C&C cage. Three wire cages are bulky and expensive, where a C&C cage can be made bigger or smaller as needed, is easier to clean because you just lean over and scoop stuff out (another big selling point for parents) and can fold down flat to store or transport. DON'T try to sell him on some giant cage with a loft and all the bells and whistles -- convince him to let you build a simple 2X4. The cages are SOOO easy to add onto later -- the trick is getting him to let you build a C&C in the first place!

Best of luck.

We sexed our pigs when we got them. I know they are both female.
My dad said we can't get a bigger cage til he fixies his car. Guess what? He's fixing it now! But my dad won't get a C&C cage. That's the problem. One of the 'My first home' cages is a little smaller but my dad said he'd get another one the same size as the big one. We are thinking of cutting down the plastic of it, making it very piggie safe. And they are very big for 8 month olds. Fuzzie weighs over 2 pounds! Maybe almost 3! Sammy is small, though. Maybe about 2 pounds.