new pig

[purple_kiwi]

so im getting a new piggie to be a cage mate for my female guineay.
i have been talking to a lady who emailed me. she openly admitted to breeding guinea pigs for a year now and she lives a block from me. i feel so bad for the poor guinea pigs, I've asked her questions about where she keeps them and what they are being fed right now. I'm waiting for a reply im suppose to be getting a female 3 week old from her today, i know its wrong but I'd rather have the pig then it ending up in her breeding program or with some one who has no knowledge.

also i don't mean for any one to get mad at me from buying from a breeder im not meaning to start any thing.

 

[BubuCandyBlue]

That pig that you will take, will only make things worse for other piggies. Plus the sow will be obliged to breed again and have more babies to replace that piggie. May I ask why are you doing this?

 

[AnimalHouse36]

I find it amazing people some on here knowing are stance on breeders and then rub it in our noses and then say "they didn't come on here to get yelled at".

Want to know what you did in buying that pig? You opened up more room in her breeding program and you gave her money to do so. You're trying to justify your actions by saying you are saving her when you just doomed more pigs to deaht, and a life of breeding in a shed.

You've been here for almost three months and you haven't gotten the message yet? Or maybe you have but just want a little baby pig. What made you get a baby instead of a femals who'd been involved in it for a year? That is if there are anymore alive. DId you just want a little baby and justified it by "rescuing"?

It amazes me what people are capable of not getting. All over this site we have signs posted about not buying and you chose to ignore them and go out and doom a shelter pig to death and a few more pig to a life of breeding.

But there is still time since you don't have the pig yet. PLease, if you want a pig to so bad go to your local rescue and adopt one and deny the breeders pig. Please. It's best for everyone involved.

 

[purple_kiwi]

I find it amazing people some on here knowing are stance on breeders and then rub it in our noses and then say "they didn't come on here to get yelled at".

Want to know what you did in buying that pig? You opened up more room in her breeding program and you gave her money to do so. You're trying to justify your actions by saying you are saving her when you just doomed more pigs to deaht, and a life of breeding in a shed.

You've been here for almost three months and you haven't gotten the message yet? Or maybe you have but just want a little baby pig. What made you get a baby instead of a femals who'd been involved in it for a year? That is if there are anymore alive. DId you just want a little baby and justified it by "rescuing"?

It amazes me what people are capable of not getting. All over this site we have signs posted about not buying and you chose to ignore them and go out and doom a shelter pig to death and a few more pig to a life of breeding.

But there is still time since you don't have the pig yet. PLease, if you want a pig to so bad go to your local rescue and adopt one and deny the breeders pig. Please. It's best for everyone involved.

yes i know all the bad things about breeders but im sure im not the only one to buy from a breeder on this website.

why shouldn't i give her a loving home? if i don't buy her what do you think will happen to her? why shouldn't she get a chance at a home?

i have adopted to pigs who where kept in aquariums to small for them to move and had nails that are still over grown even though im cutting them down.

my local human society currently has no guinea pigs avaible and my mom can not drive so i am very limited as to where i can go.

 

[purple_kiwi]

also the woman did not offer me any older females, i wouldn't even mind an older female as i have a 2 yr old i would like to pair it with.

I adopted my 2 yr as 2 years old if i originally wanted a baby i could have went to a pet store but i did not.

i also never meant to "rub it in your nose" i honestly feel like I'm doing a good thing. I've looked into my local shelter and on Kijiji, Craigs list and pet finder. I am very limited to where i can go and i believe that this guinea pig deserves a good life which i can give it.

but yes i know what every one is trying to say and what is wrong with me doing this. but since i have not gotten it yet i will ask her for an older female to see if she will let me take one.

 

[BubuCandyBlue]

but yes i know what every one is trying to say and what is wrong with me doing this. but since i have not gotten it yet i will ask her for an older female to see if she will let me take one.

And what will happen in the end? That older female will be replaced with one of her female babies, and will be obliged to breed as her mom. It is true all piggies deserve a better home if they don't have one, but the only way to break this bad cycle is cutting the evil from the root, and that is not buying from breeders, so piggies will not be obliged to have babies after babies (if they not die in the process).
If you know the rules of this forum, and all that we stand against for, then you better not say anything at all.

my mom can not drive so i am very limited as to where i can go.

This makes some sense. Tell me, are you under 21 or 18 by any chance? Don't answer, you still have a lot of growing up to do and understand a lot of things.

 

[tamnjo]

Well it's your choice to get one from a breeder. It's obivously not the best one. Rescuing a pig would be best. Again, it's up to you where you go and if you acutally are serious about getting another pig, I would think that you would be willing to drive 15 minutes to a shelter.

 

[purple_kiwi]

It is true all piggies deserve a better home if they don't have one

i just have not had a chance to get a licensee. For one thing you have no right to tell me to grow up. i have been forced to grow up a lot quicker then some people my age due to a lot of family problems so don't be so rude.



so they deserve a better home?



you guys are hypocrites. your so against letting pigs die and breeding but your willing to just let pigs continue to be breed and die with out even trying to give some of them good homes just because they are from breeders or pet stores?

what should happen to all these pigs then? should they all die because you believe they are not good enough? or just not worthy enough to be in your own home?

i believe this website is good for some things but not if your going to try and tell me I've done a bad thing because I believe I havn't i have kept this pig from being breed in the future and to me that is one step towards at least saving one guinea pig even if you don't think it is i think maybe you should think it over a bit more. As i said earlier i have adopted to guinea pigs and they are perfectly happy from where before they were mistreated and i was told they had came from pet stores to but according to you that is the worst choice ever! so maybe they didn't deserve a good home with me?


and because of this i am leaving this forum because i do not believe i should be harassed for one choice going in a step towards saving at least one guinea pig from breeding. you people should calm down a little and try to see others point of view instead of trying them like they have the plague or something because it is very rude and mean especicialy when they are trying to do something they beleive is right.

 

[purple_kiwi]

Well it's your choice to get one from a breeder. It's obivously not the best one. Rescuing a pig would be best. Again, it's up to you where you go and if you acutally are serious about getting another pig, I would think that you would be willing to drive 15 minutes to a shelter.

my shelter had no guinea pigs. they hardly ever house them. they are to busy with the over fill of dogs and cats.

 

[BubuCandyBlue]

my shelter had no guinea pigs. they hardly ever house them. they are to busy with the over fill of dogs and cats.

As that shelter is filled till the top with dogs and cats, there are shelters with lots of piggies in the same situation.
Now the two piggies you have are considered as a rescue, try to do that with your next one, meaning give a home to an orphan one or unwanted/mistreated by another family.

 

[Haley0489]

and because of this i am leaving this forum because i do not believe i should be harassed for one choice going in a step towards saving at least one guinea pig from breeding. you people should calm down a little and try to see others point of view instead of trying them like they have the plague or something because it is very rude and mean especicialy when they are trying to do something they beleive is right.

You quite obviously wanted to be harassed.
You came on here confessing your sins (so to speak) even when you KNOW that we're against breeding. You didn't even ask a care related question afterwards, you just spilled your guts about buying a pig.

And FYI we don't think bred pigs are "undeserving" of a good home but by "saving" those pigs we continue to SUPPORT the industry that should be STOPPED. If we don't buy, they don't breed, if they don't breed then there would be no breeder pigs without loving homes.

 

[rabbitsncavyluv]

Are you going to buy out this breeder then, if you really want to 'save' them all? Taking one guinea pig from her isn't going to change anything. She's just going to breed more to replace her.

Why can't you wait until one shows up in the shelter or on craigs list?

 

[purple_kiwi]

i was TALKING about guinea pigs, i have rescued before. it's not my fault every one here is so close minded because i did not follow your rules on what to do.

Also I'm happen to be a girl. lol really could you be any more stereotypical?



You people should search your own forums. look how many people you have turned away because of the way you act. shouldn't the MODS be alerted by that? less people will use this website or buy from this website because of what you people say is so offensive. i was going to buy a cage. i was selling my own PSP to pay for a cage from here. but now im not going to because of how insulted i feel and i hope that how ever owns this site sees this and relises that it is losing customers because of this.

 

[purple_kiwi]

I agree this is trolling. How do we bring it to the attention of the mods?

Edit: Found how to do so.

i have also not broken any of the registry terms maybe you should have read that before hand.

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws"

 

[hueyeats]

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you guys are hypocrites. your so against letting pigs die and breeding but your willing to just let pigs continue to be breed and die with out even trying to give some of them good homes just because they are from breeders or pet stores?

No, I do not believe we are hypocrites when we stood for an "ideal" we are passionate about! We are not willing to let the piggies "die" but we'd gladly "kill" the source of cash flow by not supporting "breeding". If the "breeders" go out of business, most of these piggies will and in fact, many have been saved by rescues/shelters. BUT if these breeders willingly kill the piggies, the guilt is NOT on us by not supporting breeding but will be upon the soul of these "breeders".

what should happen to all these pigs then? should they all die because you believe they are not good enough? or just not worthy enough to be in your own home?

Another note...

Say "you" save 1 from these breeders, will you have the cash flow to save all from the breeder??? Buy out that whole stock so if she wants to breed again, she'd have to get a pair from someone else (that will stall her breeding program?)?? Will you have the cash to maintain (through neuter/spay) so these GPs are taken care of but not breed like shelters do???

IF

You can only so called "save" 1 cavy from the breeder BUT cannot save all the others,

won't that make YOU the hypocrite that you painted others to be???

To top that off, you've "supported" the breeding cycle, and is even brainwashed yourself to think that it is allright to save only one but to "kill" other GPs the lady has breed which "some" are going to end up in a shelter or worse...

"homeless" in a cage, left on the street, in the cold winter... haveing a very cold "Christmas" & may die from an irresponsible buyer who supported & bought from a breeder "just like you did".

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I made that mistake too of purchasing one...

but that Pig is in fact not "healthy" (It is starved, you can feel the hip bone) and could have died should it be left in the tank (I still do not justify my purchase & won't... but did you also save a less healthy one in place of a healthy one so you could provide "health care"?). I know I could provide "health" care & detailed nursing if that GP needs me to. Still I learn from my errors and support adoption all I can.

I adopted the rest of my crew, all 5 of them!

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If you are as passionate about an ideal as we are here, I am sure you'd see why we support our views with blatant honesty & straightforwardness...

Where is the hypocrisy in that??

IF you are also understanding to our views (like you said you tried the shelters without luck)... you'd not be "insulted" by our opinions, but would have "understood" our POV.

You'd probably have the patience & waited till you could save 1 from a shelter/vet/rescues etc. instead of purchasing 1 from a breeder.

BUT no...

You'd try to "justify" by making yourself seemed "wronged" when that very own view that you "originally" wanted to adopt turned into a "want" to purchase from a "breeder"!

P.S. If your mom cannot drive long distance & you can't, how are you going to get your GP to the vet when it needs to see one that is quite far away??? I'd think you should get your liscense first, take care of your own "life" before you should think of being responsible for another!

GPs are an adult's responsibility, not a kid's... your mom should be even more passionate about the GP then you are as you need her to take that GP to a Vet anytime & however far in cases of emergencies!

 

[hueyeats]

I think if you do not know how bad "breeding" is...

Here is an example of quote taken from an overpopulated shelter (broken link removed)...

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Please open your heart this cold winter holiday season to warm a homeless GP who truly needs you! Wishing you & your family a very warm & wonderful Holiday Season! Even a "warm" thought would help educate many others to adopt a homeless pig!

 

[BubuCandyBlue]

i have also not broken any of the registry terms maybe you should have read that before hand.

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws"

I think you missed some things:
"join a forum dedicated to a certain standard of cavy care, but stubbornly come up with all kinds of ridiculous reasons why you cannot or will not meet those standards?"

"join a forum and whine, nag, and complain about the rules?"

"join a forum, break the rules, and then whine about being warned/corrected/whatever?"

It is written right here https://www.guineapigcages.com/threads/19775/


It is a unique forum, with rules and members that stand straight for their believes. It is pretty obvious if you don't respect it, you are free to go on other forums.
If you have other believes, you are welcomed to stay on the forum, you can read, you can post, as long as you stay away from the subjects this forum does not agree with.

 

[breezy2]

I do not believe that this person is a troll, and I also think handled more nicely, she may have understood your points. I know you all think you need to be blatent and straight forward about these issues, but I truly think sometimes it does more harm than good. Anyway I hope you still provide your guinea pigs, wherever they come from, a good size cage purple. You can buy the materials elsewhere and build one, they do not have to come from this site. Think of your guinea pigs, I know you will want the best for them.

 

[purple_kiwi]

Another note...

Say "you" save 1 from these breeders, will you have the cash flow to save all from the breeder??? Buy out that whole stock so if she wants to breed again, she'd have to get a pair from someone else (that will stall her breeding program?)?? Will you have the cash to maintain (through neuter/spay) so these GPs are taken care of but not breed like shelters do???

IF

You can only so called "save" 1 cavy from the breeder BUT cannot save all the others,

won't that make YOU the hypocrite that you painted others to be???

To top that off, you've "supported" the breeding cycle, and is even brainwashed yourself to think that it is allright to save only one but to "kill" other GPs the lady has breed which "some" are going to end up in a shelter or worse...

"homeless" in a cage, left on the street, in the cold winter... haveing a very cold "Christmas" & may die from an irresponsible buyer who supported & bought from a breeder "just like you did".

------------------------

I made that mistake too of purchasing one...

but that Pig is in fact not "healthy" (It is starved, you can feel the hip bone) and could have died should it be left in the tank (I still do not justify my purchase & won't... but did you also save a less healthy one in place of a healthy one so you could provide "health care"?). I know I could provide "health" care & detailed nursing if that GP needs me to. Still I learn from my errors and support adoption all I can.

I adopted the rest of my crew, all 5 of them!

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If you are as passionate about an ideal as we are here, I am sure you'd see why we support our views with blatant honesty & straightforwardness...

Where is the hypocrisy in that??

IF you are also understanding to our views (like you said you tried the shelters without luck)... you'd not be "insulted" by our opinions, but would have "understood" our POV.

You'd probably have the patience & waited till you could save 1 from a shelter/vet/rescues etc. instead of purchasing 1 from a breeder.

BUT no...

You'd try to "justify" by making yourself seemed "wronged" when that very own view that you "originally" wanted to adopt turned into a "want" to purchase from a "breeder"!

P.S. If your mom cannot drive long distance & you can't, how are you going to get your GP to the vet when it needs to see one that is quite far away??? I'd think you should get your liscense first, take care of your own "life" before you should think of being responsible for another!

GPs are an adult's responsibility, not a kid's... your mom should be even more passionate about the GP then you are as you need her to take that GP to a Vet anytime & however far in cases of emergencies!

I really do not believe you should judge me on something you do not know. I am only unable to drive to another town to adopt, but my mom has put just as much effort and money into my guinea pigs as i have. She has taken them to the vet, she would pay the money for a cab. SO DON'T say stuff you do not know about. I am just as capable of taking care of my own guinea pigs as you are.


If i did not get this guinea pig what do you think should happen to it? What type of life do you think it deserves just because it is from a breeder? Would you rather is just be snake food or mistreated then put up for adoption?

 

[purple_kiwi]

I think you missed some things:
"join a forum dedicated to a certain standard of cavy care, but stubbornly come up with all kinds of ridiculous reasons why you cannot or will not meet those standards?"

"join a forum and whine, nag, and complain about the rules?"

"join a forum, break the rules, and then whine about being warned/corrected/whatever?"

It is written right here https://www.guineapigcages.com/threads/19775/


It is a unique forum, with rules and members that stand straight for their believes. It is pretty obvious if you don't respect it, you are free to go on other forums.
If you have other believes, you are welcomed to stay on the forum, you can read, you can post, as long as you stay away from the subjects this forum does not agree with.

Really if you believe this rules should be followed so closely why is it that they are NOT there why you go to register? Instead hidden away?


I did not in any way whine about any rules. I pointed out to you that I did not break any registry rules. If you plan on having these rules followed so closely then why is it that they are not in the registry rules?