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Maisiepaisie

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Nikoley I think a lot of what you're doing is good however what would make it even better is if you advertised as rescue, don't pay any breeders for animals, only take in animals that are unwanted or maybe help the shelters by taking some animals off them. Also you could promote C&C cages and make the materials available to order through the store. Do you have any control over what is sold? It would be good if you could stop selling anything unhealthy or unsuitable such as balls for guinea pigs, vitamin drops, food with seeds etc. If you could do all this you'd effectively be running a rescue that sells supplies.
 

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if i was to say that we sell them expensive you'd prob get annoyed cause we were making profit off them, but when i tell you we don't make much, if any, profit off them u get mad cause we must just be selling them cheap to sell lots of them to anyone that will buy one!

Exactly, because the fact that you sell them at all is bad. The price doesn't come into it.

If your store really wants to help animals they wouldn't sell them, they would work with a rescue and keep rescue animals there for display. The rescue would do all adoptions.

End of story.
 

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If Nikoley is thoroughly vetting all the people who buy animals then the only thing she's really doing wrong is buying animals off breeders. What would be wrong with the store itself being a rescue if they did all the things I suggested in my last post?
 

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u immediately just hear pet store and think oh my god bad!!
I think you may finally be getting it. You are correct. ANY pet store I run into that sells animals is bad. Every single one of them, even yours.
i look after the pigs well,
Are you the only employees in the store? Do you work there 24 hours a day? Are you planning on making this your life-long career? In not, and what you say is true, then you are only a short reprieve in the animals' lives until you quit and the next employee comes along who does not care as much as you do. Of course you aren't doing a thing to help ease the suffering of the animals back at the breeders that are churning out more babies for you to sell.

i teach people the right way to look after them
Sorry, don't believe you really show them the correct way. I believe you show them the way that the store can enable them to care for the animals and as I said before. All petstores I have ever seen sell inadequate and poor quality food, caging and supplies.

i make sure they get them desexed
You what? Is this a joke? What do you do? Do you deliver the animals to the vet upon purpose and have the new owners pick them up from the vet? Do you march them to the vet clinic with a gun to their head? If your angelic store does not care about making any profit off of the animals then why not get all of the animals desexed BEFORE you sell them.

See this is why I'm giving you a hard time. Because I do not believe you. I do not believe you because you are lying. If you think so highly of your store and truly have nothing to hide then please do list the address and phone number of this store so people can check it out for themselves.

If you fail to do so then we will all know that you are full of, to put it as nicely as possible, "hot air".
 

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i look after the pigs well, i teach people the right way to look after them, i make sure they get them desexed and have big enough cages and i quiz them to make sure they will look after it properly for its whole life.

I am a little confused. If you are certain that all of your customers are taking proper care of their purchases for the rest of their lives, why do you have to sell so many "returns" that were abandoned by the children who got them in the first place? That seems to be a contradiction in itself. If very little of your profit comes from the sale of live animals, why don't you switch to adopting animals from a shelter rather than selling them from a breeder? I fail to see why you won't consider this option when it would make such a huge impact for all the animals who so desperately need homes, and could reverse the population problem rather than add to it. You profits come from the products you sell, as you've said yourself.

I also am a little confused on the "desexing" requirement. How do you follow up on this? Do you refer customers to a highly competent vet, and explain the risks and aftercare involved in the procedure? While I think it's a nice idea in theory, I imagine it doesn't work out so well in practice. Telling the customer that they need to desex their guinea pig is not enough. I think it's important that they are aware of the very serious risks of breeding, often ending in complications and/or death. This will be a more serious deterrent than a simple recommendation for desexing. I also wonder that it's really necessary to desex all of the guinea pigs that are sold? While it might be feasible for the males, having the females desexed is a very dangerous procedure that might cause more suffering than it is worth. If the customer is convinced that breeding is a terrible decision because of the health risks and overpopulation problem, they will be able to avoid it quite easily without needing to desex their pigs. My advice would be to have the males desexed before you sell them, and inform your customers of the grave risks of breeding- giving them printed information on the topic, as well as statistics and pictures of complications if possible. Then you can be positive that they cannot buy a breeding pair from your store, and will be much less likely to seek one out somewhere else.

Please understand how frustrating it is for us to hear your claim about being a responsible pet store. Many of the members hear work with mistreated, abandoned guinea pigs on a daily basis and see firsthand the suffering that pet stores directly cause. Even if your store takes fantastic care of the guinea pigs you offer, they still come from the same place: dirty, crowded, neglectful breeding mills that are only out to make a profit. Why do you choose to support them when you could help guinea pigs that have been abandoned find new, loving homes instead?
 
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Nicoley I hate to harp on, but can you confirm the cage sizes you gave a coupl eof pages back? The ones that were the smallest you sold at the store?
 

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Just out of curiosity...
How big are the cages that you keep your guinea pigs in at the pet store? Are they C&C cages? I visited a Petco and the cages were tiny...
 

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Maybe you could have adoption days, instead. You can maybe also have the adoptables at the store like Petsmart does with cats.
 

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Just don't sell animals. Just the supplies.

Sadly, I know of no good supplies-only store either. They all sell crappy stuff like Hartz and Vitamin drops. Probably not financially feasible to provide the high quality stuff. Best to buy your supples online.
 

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There are no pet supply stores around here at all, unless you count the grocery store. The grocery store sells only crap. My mom won't buy from on-line, either, due to shipping cost.
 
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Where do you buy your supplies from then Landhermie?
 

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There are no pet supply stores around here at all, unless you count the grocery store. The grocery store sells only crap. My mom won't buy from on-line, either, due to shipping cost.

Yeah, there's only one in Bay City. It's called Pet Supplies Plus. The Oxbow website said they sold their products there, but I checked and there isn't.

How difficult is it to realize how awful pet stores are? I've read so many posts "Ohhh, my pet store is so good because I...(insert millions of reasons here)." No, it is not good. It will never be good. Stop trying to make excuses.
 

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I unfortunately buy them from a pet store. If I lived without my mom, I would definitely purchase them on-line. My mom doesn't know how pet stores are. she probably wouldn't buy from on-line if she even knew, though, because it'd be "too much money."


I never said pet stores were good. The ones near me suck even if you don't consider where the animals come from. Please read my posts before making assumptions. I unfortunately cannot make each and every single one of my decisions yet.

I can't wait to move out. My mom always says how we are so alike, when there are a lot of things that are not alike.
 

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I unfortunately buy them from a pet store. If I lived without my mom, I would definitely purchase them on-line. My mom doesn't know how pet stores are. she probably wouldn't buy from on-line if she even knew, though, because it'd be "too much money."


I never said pet stores were good. The ones near me suck even if you don't consider where the animals come from. Please read my posts before making assumptions. I unfortunately cannot make each and every single one of my decisions yet.

I can't wait to move out. My mom always says how we are so alike, when there are a lot of things that are not alike.

Oh no, I didn't mean anything against you! I'm sorry if it came off that way. I've had to buy food and things like that from pet stores. I just said that in regards to selling animals.
 
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