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Riot101

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Hey all

I have 3 three month old male piggies (brothers) in a 3m X 3m cage, and lately they have started fighting to the point where blood is drawn! It's actually the 2 bigger pigs bullying the runt. It's gotten the point where I need to separate them. But now Giovanni (the runt) is alone in his own cage.

My question is, is it cruel of me to have him alone for 2 months until he is old enough to be neutered and put with the girls?

Please, any advice will do!
 

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No not at all. You're piggie will live for two months without a playmate and it will well be worth it in the long run seeing as you DO NOT want him to be injured/killed.
 

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Exactly! I don't want him to get hurt or killed! AND, I don't want babies so I can't put him with the girls yet and he is too young to get clipped! I feel soooo sorry for him though!
 

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Did you do proper introductions before putting them in the same cage?

Males will tend to get into dust ups if they don't have enough room. Before making your pigs live solitary lives, expand your cage. You'd be amazed at what a little room can do.
 

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They are brothers born in the same litter and never separated! They are currently in a 6 square metre cage with their own food and water bowls and their own hideys and toys, and stay they are attacking the runt. He won't live a solitary life as I am planning to get him a girlfriend as soon as he is old enought to be neutered.
 

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How old are they?
If it was me, depending on their age I would sepearte the one who got blood drawn till they were all over a year old and then do compelte introductions all over again and do an 110% of cleaning all of the cage and things.

I'm not one for neutering them when there is another way, I just don't want to take a risk if there is another way. I know the risk depends on the vet and their experience doing it but honestly I'd prefer to try keep all the boys living together then get more pigs as something could go wrong because of neutering and the fact that having him with girls they are just as likely fight.


(P.S Could someone tell me the size of the cage in C&C girds? I'm too lazy to figure it out!)
 

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I have no clue how big the cage is in grids but I can guess its about a 3 by 6 grid (I think). I don't want to have him live alone for a whole 9 months as he is only 3 months old. I'd rather get him neutered and adopt a girl for him. My vet is a specialist in exotic animals and he has done my other male (Charlie) with no complications at all.
 

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If they suddenly started to attack him, maybe he is sick? You say he is the runt? He could benefit from some extra feeding without his brothers present, like at laptime.


you say their cage is 3 meters by 3 meters? Which would translate to about 8 x 8 grids. One grid is about 36cm.
 

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They have all had a vet visit and he said they were all healthy! I have been feeding him separately as the other two attack him at breakfast and dinner time. They do allow him to have hay, water and pellets though.
 

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Guinea pigs are masters in not showing signs of illness. Have they been treated for mites? Tests often do not show up positive even though they do have mites.
 

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All my pigs are treated with Revolution every 3 weeks without a skip to ensure they stay mite free. My vet said it was safe to use every 3 weeks.
 

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Sometimes pigs just won't get along, no matter what. However, taking out the least aggressive one will leave two very aggressive ones together--how are they getting along? Usually the best pairs are ones with one one dominant pig and the other submissive. Two dominant pigs can be trouble.

Two months alone is a long time--can you leave his cage next to the other so he can at least see the others?
 

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I agree with Foggy. My two boys Reko and Mojo had a falling out in Feb after a year of being together. Reko was one and Mojo 2.5. In July I tired again, outside in a HUGE round pen (we are talking lots of girds tied together and pushed around until it was a circle). I figured plenty of grass to eat and they would be too busy. I was wrong. They went all out after 20 mins. Reko ended up having to have surgery for his puncture wound and Mojo had a horrible gash on the side of his face. Both recovered, I never did ;)

They now live side by side with girds AND coroplast between the cages. (Coroplast, grid, coroplast, for those wondering).

I will never try them together again and they live very happily side by side.
 

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I have removed Giovanni (the runt) and the other two seem completely happy with him gone. His cage is right next to the girls cage so he can see them and hear them and everything. He seems to be a lot less stressed and he ate his entire salad for the first time ever tonight. I think he will be ok for 2 months until I can adopt a girlfriend for him and get him fixed.
 

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Just wandering here, why can't you get him fixed and then he can go in with your girls? Why do you have to adopt more girls when you already have some?
I'm just wandering, for all I know you could already have a fixed male in with them! :)
 

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I already have a fixed male with my girls and Giovanni is only 2 months old so I can't have him fixed yet...Too young!
 

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If It was me (if you have more then one girl) I would leave one girl with your already fixed male and then put the other one with Giovanni once he has been fixed.
Just because you might have enough time to look after and care for (Not 100% sure on how many you have) 1 cage with two boys and 2 cages with a boy and two girls right now but you never know what is coming up!
 

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Did you do proper introductions before putting them in the same cage?

Males will tend to get into dust ups if they don't have enough room. Before making your pigs live solitary lives, expand your cage. You'd be amazed at what a little room can do.

Didn't she say her cage was already about 9'x9'? Or did I read wrong?
 

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Didn't she say her cage was already about 9'x9'? Or did I read wrong?

Someone said their cage is around the size of a 8x8 c&c cage.
Any way, it's is too late as they have already separated the boy from the other two. :)
 
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Didn't she say her cage was already about 9'x9'? Or did I read wrong?

I think you read it right. The OP said the cage is 3x3 meters. That's about 9.8 x 9.8 ft.
 

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