I might get a puppy!

[fourboys4now]

Congratulations on your new puppy. I love the name Sadie, one of my dogs was named that. I love the baby puppy breath, that stinky sweet smell when they kiss you. The only suggestion I would give, is that if you have not had her checked for parvo yet, I would do so as soon as possible. I had a puppy that ended up having it and we almost lost her, but my vet caught it in time and she was our Christmas miracle baby.:cheerful:

 

[chexxy]

Fuzzworth, dont worry, I would never buy from a breeder, I promise. I just wanted to help this puppy, and I didnt pay for her.
Here are some pics-
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/724/walinop4.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1865/waaaamn2.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6771/sleepyxo2.jpg
For the pic below, I know its blurry, but to see how small she is that is a cat collar that is adjusted as small as possible. She is tiny!
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7137/collarga9.jpg

 

[guineapigluver1]

I know that fuzzworth, but why would you want to take the risk, when you can just have tag on their collar? Sadie is so cute!

 

[fuzzworth]

I know that, but why would you want to take the risk, when you can just have tag on their collar?

The chips are better than tags in a lot of ways. Especially in the cases of stolen dogs. Its easy to remove collars and tags, dogs when they get out often lose collars as well. Flat buckle collars without a quick release also pose a choking hazzard so many owners only put a collar on their pet when they are leaving the house (for walks, vet visits etc...)

As far as risking cancer goes...I would ask the very same question to ANYONE that feeds purina products, alpo, iams, science diet, friskies, Hills products, the list goes on and on of very substandard food that people feed that cause cancer, allergies, and a multitude of other health issues, But doesn't really offer ANY benefit like finding a lost loved one.

I would rather place that small risk on my pets knowing that if ANTHING happened to them I could still have some hope if identifying them and bringing them home safely.

 

[babybunny]

Oh wow, how old is she? She doesnt look old enough to be away from her momma.

 

[thalestral]

Note: those who believe all breeders are irresponsible have usually done just as much if not more research into their opinion.

Any dog bred into this world means another one dies.

Always rescue - just as with guinea pigs.

 

[daftscotslass]

Can't add to the above - it's nonsense. Millions of animals are microchipped across the world each year and there has been no evidence to suggest it's a problem. Reason why this issue came about? Research into deliberately causing tumours by chipping genetically modified rodents and "susceptible" species of dog. Not because it's happening in the general pet population. This is why I wish people would back up what they say if they're going to make such sweeping statements!

Do you know why she wants to give the puppy away for free? Probably because she's aware it may have long-term health problems and chances are will cost a new owner a fortune in vet fees to keep her healthy. She also won't make any money from a sickly puppy because nobody that wants a "purebred" lab will want to pay money for an underweight runt. Well done, tell her it's OK to offload runts and ill pups with a sob story onto unsuspecting owners.

Do yourself, your family, your other dog and your pocket a favour and look for a homeless lab in a rescue if it's what you really want.

 

[citronsoul]

She looks really small & in your first post you said that she was 4 1/2 weeks old. If that is her real age, she needs to be back with her mom & siblings. Depending on the state you live in, it may even be against the law to take this puppy away at such a young age.

 

[fuzzworth]

Here is a link to a site about animal law. This chart has the information about age and any exemptions from the law the person has. Age to Sell Puppy Table

 

[guineapigluver1]

Okay. Sorry, about saying that they cause cancer fuzzworth, I guess I should have looked into it more. I want to ask my mom if we can micro chip our dogs and cats, because, our dogs, keep getting out of the gate, and its a pain in the you know what to get them back in, thankfully they are just barely small enough to carry! They keep getting out because we live right next to the people we got them from, and he kept there brother, and they miss him like crazy and keep going to see him, we need to schedule a playdate! And especially since we are going to be moving soon. Our cats used to be outside, and I don't want them to get lost when we move!

 

[chexxy]

I dont think you guyds are understanding this. She is not a random breeder selling her puppies. She does not sell them under 8 weeks old. This puppy was a runt in a litter of 12, and she was getting bitten, and pushed around. She had o be seperated. So, this breeder who I have known and seen for 4 years, everyday, she is my neighbor, offered her to us. Not to make a profit, we didnt even pay. She offered her to us because she knew she would get the most attention with our family. And she was right. We have had Sadie for a day and she is already princess of the house. If she wants to be held she whines and stands on her back legs and she gets hugs. If she just woke up from a nap, she gets to run and play on the floor. She gets fed whenever she is hungry. She lives in a pen with a crate, and a heating pad covered in towels, where she sleeps. We bought her this lobster shaped toy, and it is bigger then her. She loves playing with it, and she loves to chase my hair. This breeder is not a bad person, so please dont associate and say things like "She only wanted you to have the dog because its sick" or anything. Not all breeders are the same.

 

[fuzzworth]

You don't seem to understand the law. It doesn't really matter why any breeder would separate the pups from mother the only exceptions are the exceptions written in the LAW. Selling or giving away a pup before 8 weeks of age in most states is against the law.

I'm glad your enjoying your pup. Be aware though pups separated from their mothers and littermates before 8 weeks of age often times have social issues with people and other dogs.

 

[fourboys4now]

Sadie is absolutely beautiful. Enjoy her while she's little. They grow so fast. Mine is about 80 pounds now, but he still sleeps in bed with us!

 

[chexxy]

You don't seem to understand the law. It doesn't really matter why any breeder would separate the pups from mother the only exceptions are the exceptions written in the LAW. Selling or giving away a pup before 8 weeks of age in most states is against the law.

I'm glad your enjoying your pup. Be aware though pups separated from their mothers and littermates before 8 weeks of age often times have social issues with people and other dogs.

Maybe I dont understand it
But, if she was going to get injured being with her mom and siblings...I am confused. I am sorry, I dont mean to sound snappy, I am just confused. But oh well...what is done is done. I am sorry.
I thought she would be scared, but no way! Her breeder said the reason she is so friendy is because she got lots of attention, even more than usual. She loves everyone, comes to her name, is rather vocal, has met and lovede my whole family qand my friend. And she loves my dog and cat. We cant let them meet yet until she is bigger, but she trys to run after them when ever they come around. I am making her a snack right now. Like I said, I am sorry, what is done is done, and she is living better then if she had to stay with her mom, because she gets one on one attention, and has no competition for food.

 

[daftscotslass]

That puppy needs her mother more than any of the others. I can't understand why it wasn't possible to seperate the mother and runt and let it feed for a set period of time away from the others. She will have missed out on essential immunity and nutrients from her mother's milk and will still be doing so.

 

[piggly wiggly]

This woman is an awful breeder. She should never ever let a pup go to a new home at that age. All puppies pick on eachother at that age, that is how they learn. What she did was tottally irresponsible, a 4 to 5 week old puppy should not be seperated from her mom. Now she has to be by herself at night with only some stuffed toys. This woman should be reported, sorry, but what she did was horrible. If she really felt the pup was being hurt by her littermates, she should of seperated the small pup, and gave her some one on one time with the mom dog for a few hours, then put mom with the other pups for a few hours, and keep rotating. Maybe even keep one puppy with the small one while rotating mom between the pups.

P.s, didn't see daftscotlass post, guess we think alike lol

 

[chexxy]

I am sorry. There is nothing I can do. What do you think I am going to do, march back and hand the poor pup away? I mean, nobody here is sitting there looking at her going "Oh, poor you!". She is spoiled, I am with her so much! I have to tell my family to give her time alone! She sleeps, and when she waqnts attention she stands on her back legs and "barks". She loves to play, and I lay down on the ground and she bights my hands and plays with my sleeves. What I am trying to say is that, arguing is going no where. I am sorry. I would never BUY from a breeder, nor do I love supporting breeders, but I felt bad for and decided to take this puppy, I wont do it again, but yelling at me wont help. I highly appreciate any advice though.

 

[piggly wiggly]

I certainly am not yelling at you for taking the puppy, if she is in a loving caring home, good for her. What I am trying to get across is, you keep saying what a good responsible breeder she is, and she deffinatley is not. Hopefully you will realize this and stop sticking up for her actions. I am glad the puppy is doing well.

 

[citronsoul]

Is there any way that you could arrange for your puppy to keep seeing her mom and littermates? If she is your neighbour, I see no reason why this wouldn't be possible.

This is a link from the Humane Society, which gives you summary of the important stages in a puppy's development. From 3 to 12 weeks puppies learn a lot about socializing from their littermates. If you want to minimize behavioural problems later on, I would suggest taking Sadie over to see her mom and littermates so that she can regularly interact with them.

Puppy Behavior Basics | The Humane Society of the United States

 

[guineapigluver1]

You should get Sadie trained right away! We didn't train our first dog until it was to late.....We couldn't have ANYBODY! over unless we wanted him barking, and snapping, because he was so protective, because he something happened to him and his siblings that seperated them from their mother, and they all ended up in a shelter and we took him, but we didn't get him trained or take him out in public until it was too late, and he had problems with anybody coming over, and it got to the point of him having to be put down, for biting a friend, thankfully it was our pastors daughter, and they understood, but after that he had to be put down. :weepy: