This is the cage i was talking about in the other post. it seems a little dark and that is only because it was raining the evening the picture was taken. Trust me they have plenty of light during the day. I have since removed the screen from the bottem and layed down mac tac on the bottem. Its washable and looks nice if they move the shavings....oh yeah and the garbage bags aren't needed any more either. I added the lock to the cage so that my VERY inquizitive 3 year old daughter can't add "toys" to thier cage, or try to pick them up. The top of the lid is also screen and very sturdy.