ARGH! Help me convince her!! <LONG>

[RubyPiggie2]

You guys are a last resort(hate to say it), but I'm so desperate. I've given her multiple sites on why not to do it...
There is this girl I talk to. She is 12 years old.... She owns rabbits and one guinea pig. I do not know her in "real life", met her on another guinea pig forum. She is so.... dense when it comes to the welfare and happiness of her animals. They ALL live on wired bottom(all 4 rabbits, 1 guinea pig too). She dosen't even pet the guinea pig, let alone take the poor thing out. But that's besides the point. Her heart is SET on breeding her rabbits. I keep trying to talk her out of it. We made a site too, and the slogan was CavySpirits slogan(I gave Teresa credit for it, don't worry, but it's not<the site> official yet, so I'm still going to ask Teresa about it) "Don't Breed or Buy While Shelter Animals Die". She loved it, but apparently didn't support it. She even put a rabbit breeders website on our site. Needless to say, I deleted it. She got mad. Then I deleted all of her information on rabbits, which was also incorrect. Then she yelled at me, though I could really care less. I made her cry XD but that's besides the point. Guess I was mean to her....
Anyways, she is insisting on breeding. Every conversation we get into a fight because of it. Here is one of our most recent conversations, which is actually going on right now:
canadianmidget14: You want to see the majority of homeless rabbits and guinea pigs JUST in your area? Go to www.petfinder.com and type in you zip code and what pet you are looking for on the far left. Have fun! XD

canadianmidget14: brb

fuzzywabbits12: im not going to

fuzzywabbits12: thanks any ways

fuzzywabbits12: ok

canadianmidget14: why not

canadianmidget14: You said you wanted more rabbits

fuzzywabbits12: cuz i dont need a other rabbit

fuzzywabbits12: i am breeding rember

canadianmidget14: WHy

canadianmidget14: It's much better to just rescue because you are saving a life instead of creating more.

canadianmidget14: It's just a waste of a life.

fuzzywabbits12: no it does not waste a life

fuzzywabbits12: and i thoght you said you are a nice person if you are stop

canadianmidget14: YES it does

canadianmidget14: I am

canadianmidget14: and I am being nice about it

fuzzywabbits12: yep

canadianmidget14: Let me tell you something. If you told my friends you were breeding, they would make you cry so much because apparently I have made you cry before, and I think that I can be nicer to you than them because I'm more on the shyer side and I don't always voice my "real" opinion like them. Would you like to talk to my friends since my niceness cannot convince you?

canadianmidget14: Name your reasons you want to breed

canadianmidget14: Besides having "cute widdle wabbits"

fuzzywabbits12 signed off at 7:19:00 PM.

fuzzywabbits12 signed on at 7:20:14 PM.

canadianmidget14: You didn't adopt

canadianmidget14: So don't lie about it

fuzzywabbits12: im not

fuzzywabbits12: you dont even know

canadianmidget14: What did you do to get the rabbits

fuzzywabbits12: you dont know me

canadianmidget14: Please answer my question

fuzzywabbits12: and you need to think of the fact you dont know every thing in the ghole wide world and that you are not a adult

canadianmidget14: I never said I know everything in "the ghole wide world"

canadianmidget14: and I don't know everything in the whole wide world

canadianmidget14: And I never will

canadianmidget14: But I know the disadvantages of breeding

fuzzywabbits12: well you think you do

canadianmidget14: I do? Didn't I just admit that I didn't?

fuzzywabbits12: and you think your a little higher then the next person

canadianmidget14: I do now? Really, I think you do

canadianmidget14: I think you think that of yourself

canadianmidget14: You have such a big ego trip

canadianmidget14: So just tell me

canadianmidget14: What are your reasons for breeding??

fuzzywabbits12: Fuzzywabbits12 now is blocking you

canadianmidget14: I asked a simple question, PLEASE tell me what your reasons are for wanting to breed your rabbits

canadianmidget14: Are you parents going to breed them because 12 years old is not old enough to breed responsibly
fuzzywabbits12: no
canadianmidget14: why not
fuzzywabbits12: it is none of you beezwax
canadianmidget14: is it just to have cute widdle wabbits?
fuzzywabbits12: you dont spell rabbits wabbits
canadianmidget14: I know, duh
fuzzywabbits12: wow
canadianmidget14: "cute widdle wabbits"


And then it goes on.....Her being stupid and trying to dodge the question.
This is on AIM so if anyone wants to try to talk to her FEEL FREE. Because I can't get it through her head. I don't want to have any of you talk to her if you don't want to, but I need suggestions. I already told her she was selfish and lame, but she just won't quit.
How can I get this through her head? She's really driving me insane. I've shown her multiple sites. Should I just let her be? The only reason why I posted this is because no one else I've had give me some suggestions has really helped, and everyone on this site is VERY educated on this subject as such. PLEASE help. Thanks.

 

[dagwellismypigy]

hey ruby I am going to IM her I hope a bunch of other people do too!

 

[Poohbear]

Geez,that girl is dense. I don't think Theresa could change her mind!

 

[Poohbear]

I would love to go on to aim but my mom took it off my computer becuase I was on it so much.

 

[RubyPiggie2]

That's OK, QueenB. I just don't want to seem like I'm trying to get everyone to help me, because I was really trying to handle this girl on my own, but she's just so stubborn!! So I came to the experts for advise.
I don't want to seem immature because I posted this, but it's really getting to me. I know I<we> might not be able to change her mind, but she's just... It's been bugging me. I've been trying to ignore her and stuff, but the fact that she's told me basically everything of her guinea pig, housing, diet, care, ect. And then she keeps her rabbits on wired flooring+guinea pig.

 

[Poohbear]

Yes she is. I can not nelieve she is only 12 and has that much attitude!

 

[Ly&Pigs]

No matter what you say to her or how many times you try to convince her of all the reasons why it is bad to breed, it sounds as if it is not going to sink into this kids head. If I was her parent, I would under no circumstances let her do it. But apparently her parents are going to allow this kid to bring more rabbits into a world where there are too many sitting in shelters already. Either that or the parents don't know what she intends to do.

I would tell her straight up that if she doesn't want to take the time to hear you out, then you don't wish to talk to her any further at all. Apparently this kid doesn't even need to have the animals she has. I feel so bad for that little piggie on a wire bottomed cage. She sounds like a "brat" to me. I bet the animals she has aren't getting proper care in other ways either, like food. I also have a feeling that if any of us here were to try to talk to her, we'd in all likelyhood make her cry again. But again, if she isn't willing to just listen to you, wash your hands of her once and for all.

 

[RubyPiggie2]

Ly, I did just do that right after I posted this, told her I did not want to talk to her anymore. And she keeps IMing me!! Argh! She is a brat, and she definately dosen't realize it. I blocked her because I got tired of it, but she goes on her parents sn sometimes and I'm sure she'll try to im me.
then she tried acting like her father. He even spelt wrong. Last time(yes, she's done this twice already), I tricked "him", and asked "what did you want to be when you grew up?"
She spells "want" as "whant", and she goes "I whanted...."" Hehehehe. "He" tried to tell me he didn't go to school. Yeah right, what bs. Then this time he spelt "suppose" wrong as "supose" and didn't capilatalize the I. She keeps trying to act like her father, and says that he is going to talk to her. Hah, yeah right. She is very, very bratty and I never wish to have another conversation with her again. I might just talk to her parents on their sn, though... Hm... (I have the sn on my buddylist, because she used to talk to me on theirs). Should I do this?

 

[Ly&Pigs]

Now that is a good idea. Try to get ahold of the parents via messenger. If you can't talk sense into her, you may be able to talk sense into the parent(s). After you explain to them why their child should not breed and also explain nicely to the parents that the animals should be kept in better conditions they may have a talk with their kid. Just make sure you are talking to a parent and not her again. They may have no knowledge that she even wants to breed. It's definately worth a try in my book.

 

[Himino]

I tried talking to her but as soon as I said some thing she loged off!

 

[Himino]

What's her parents IM? I'm going to try there.

 

[Poohbear]

Darn, maybe you will be able to catch her again.

 

[Ly&Pigs]

I think it will be more of a waste of time trying to talk to this kid. All that is going to happen is she is going to get mad and log off or go invisible and your going to get frustrated when she won't listen.

 

[Himino]

Yeah your most likely right, but I'd like to give it a try, maybe try to relate to her and give her reasons why she shouldn't breed in a way so she won't be "insulted". Ruby I'll give it a try.

 

[RubyPiggie2]

Her parents sn is RHCrew but I think that I should just talk to them first, then if they don't believe me have you guys talk to them. Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'm so happy I'm not the only one mad at this brat.

 

[RubyPiggie2]

Yeah your most likely right, but I'd like to give it a try, maybe try to relate to her and give her reasons why she shouldn't breed in a way so she won't be "insulted".

Oh gosh, that seriously will not work. If you read my first thing, before I was very polite to her about it then I got frustrated. She is such a stubborn child.

 

[Himino]

She's not on that one either.

 

[Poohbear]

Yes, maybe her parents will listin more then her.

 

[CaliGirl]

The fact that she is only 12 is probobly the reason why she isn't taking this matter seriously. If nothing has gotten through to her by now, I dont think it will. As for getting a hold of her parents, how can you be so sure that she wont just pretend to be them again. But good luck, hope she hears something you have to say.

 

[Trixie]

Sounds to me like she is just looking for attention. Nothing more then that. My 12 year old is kinda like that. She will say things or do things just to get the notice. Most 12yrs are like that. I would just leave her be. If she wants this kind of response that she is getting from you, it is probably because she is lacking the affection from her parent.
Not only that. But do you really think the parents are going to let her breed her rabbits? That is IF she even has any. It is easy to come by rabbit and piggie pictures off the net and claim them to be yours. The dodging of her answering your questions tells me that she is lieing. If you really think about it. This doesn't sound just right. So if I was you I would just forget the whole thing and let this child find another way to get the attention she is needing.
I see this type of things everyday. I drive a school bus all different routes, with hundreds of different kids. I even had one tell me once that she was going to kick her dog. Well I found out she didn't have a dog. Mom wasn't to happy. But she got the attention she needed.