Sure if there was punishments along those lines for those in charge of it, I wouldn't complain, but I would not physically go and do that to someone as it would make me as bad as them to act out that.
That is curious. If it would make someone immoral to do x, then isn't x an immoral act? And if x is an immoral act, wouldn't you complain (to say the least)? If something is immoral, then I think I ought to
-not do it (just like you)
-not support it (unlike you)
-complain and try to get it stopped (unlike you)
It makes no sense to me to think something is moral if we're talking about me supporting it, voting for it, paying someone else to do it, etc but immoral if we're talking about me doing it with my own hands.
Can I just emphasis that these aren't lovely innocent people we are talking about here
Lovely or not, innocent or not, male or female, whatever race, whatever species, young or not, beautiful or not, murderous or charitable or healthy or not, all sentient beings have the right to life.
Sure they may be brain washed, but the people in charge of setting up the horrific practices of this should be punished in my oppinion.
We're all "brain washed." You can stop packing these people in salt and go after their superiors instead. Then you can stop with them and go after
their superiors, or religious leaders or politicians who taught them since childhood that these are acceptable means to some ends; then you can stop that and go after whoever made them think and act the way they do, etc.
To who do you pin the ultimate blame, the start of it all?
And of course, while you (or the government you support, or whoever) are doing all this, some other outraged people--perhaps the victims' family--are saying you are evil hypocrites and deserve to be skinned and packed in salt, then maybe rethinking that and deciding to go after whoever brainwashed you instead
No...because the dog didn't do that to them, if a dog causes a danger to children and society I agree for everyones sake it should be pts.
Dogs don't pack people in salt, no. Nor did these people pack dogs in salt. Maybe those people should just bite the dog?
Any dog, cat, human, etc can be dangerous. That's no reason to execute people. The "vicious dog" myth is still so widespread, it is sad. Most housedogs in this country are time bombs, biters waiting to happen, easily triggered. They are no different from the time bombs that did go off, no less and no more likely to bite in the future. See
The Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson for more on the reality of dog aggression.
The good news is that most can be rehabilitated and/or managed with a reasonable level of commitment. The bad news is that for the more serious cases, forever unpredictable, especially those with no bite inhibition, you need a lot of physical management for life.
Yep it's a hilarious subject here
I find "
my reason for murdering people is right, and your reason isn't" mentality funny in a very sad way, actually, like many other things. Like
phprules: It's teh sad funnies!
Punish a child, hmm no because I believe children are not completely responsible for themselves and how they react to things. Again, the people in the videos are grown men who I pressume can think for themselves, the people in charge certainly can and therefore do I believe they should be in some way punished for causing an innocent dog, they made put trust into them, extreme pain and a tortorous death? Yes I do.
Responsibility is a human construct. Obviously they cannot think very well if they're acting that way.
It just always goes way off topic and I think thats unfair on the oringinal poster and the important subject which this should be focusessed on.
I think it was off topic from the moment "ways to torture the humans in this article" was added to the thread. I'm just responding to that belief.
Another thought: Do you think the dogs would be happier if their tormenters were skinned and packed in salt? Even ignoring the fact that they're dead--if they had souls, or if some had survived, or whatever, would they be happier?
Who says there is something wrong with their brain? Just because they have learned a different way than you and think differently than you doesn't mean there is something wrong with them or they are sick.
The line between illness and health is quite arbitrary in a lot of cases, true. But learning some "ways" is, I maintain, mentally ill. I wouldn't say so for a cat who rips apart an insect or small rodent, but for humans, I believe good mental health includes functional empathy, strong reasoning ability, and happiness. Happy people are not violent. See (broken link removed)
If you'd like information on physical abnormalities in the brain of people with so-called
personality disorders, I can try looking some up for you later.
Gee, thanks for posting before I did while I was afk. And only if both halves survived
