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    Theodore's health thread

    I've noticed lately that Theodore hasn't been acting like himself so I've decided to start a health thread for him.

    Background:
    I received Oliver and Theodore around the end of may 2013(both males). Oliver turned 2 in july and Theo turned 1 (both approximate dates). They adjusted fine, starting to try new veggies and explore. I haven't had any issues with them.
    They're currently in a 2x6 cage with a 1.5x2 loft which functions as a kitchen area.
    I feed them each unlimited hay, 1/8 cup of pellets, two leaves of green or red leaf lettuce, a bit of cilantro, a baby carrot, 1/8 of a bell pepper (typically green, occasionally other colours as a treat), either celery or cucumber, and then parsley, fruit, or whatever else I have in the house, are given as a treat once or twice a week (depending on what it is).
    Oliver is the more dominant of the two, and so he will chase Theo around sometimes, but never traps him in the pigloos, or blocks off food and water.

    Current issue (October 2nd, 2013)

    For the past few weeks, Oliver has consistently weighed 1050g, and Theo has weighed 750g.
    When I weighed them both last night, Oliver was around 1030g (so pretty close to normal), but Theo was 650g.

    I noticed yesterday that Theo had been laying around in his hidey most of the times I saw him, and actually mentioned to my mom that it was unusual behaviour for him, which is when I took him out to weigh him.

    I checked him over and didn't see anything majorly wrong, I checked his front teeth as well, which were doing fine.

    I kept him out away from Oliver for feeding time, and he didn't seem to touch his veggies much. He ate hay, and then nibbled a bit on some parsley. He was out for about an hour and a half and did not poop at all during that time (unless they were poops which he ate)

    When I put him back in the cage with the food he didn't eat earlier, Oliver started eating some of it and Theo joined along, so it is possible that he was just nervous being out and therefore didn't want to eat. Theo can be very shy.

    Today - October 3rd

    I gave the pigs their pellets this morning and both ran up to the loft and were excited. They were sharing them as usual.
    When I came back home on my lunch, I gave them both their pepper. Oliver ate his, Theo did not. Usually Theo really likes green pepper, but it could just be that this pepper is getting older, and maybe he can tell. It's been in the fridge for a week.
    I put a little piece of parsley in the cage and he seemed interested and took a tiny nibble but hasn't eaten much of it.

    I weighed him today, after pellets but before veggies, and he was at 700g. So he is doing a bit better weight-wise, and seems a little more active, but I know he still isn't acting normal.

    When I get home from school today I'm going to take him out in his playpen for a few hours, so I can monitor if he's actually eating and pooping. I'm going to weigh him daily as well and see how he acts.


    So my question;
    Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? I know theres been a cold going around in the area (family members, people at my school, etc) so he may have gotten infected from that.
    Is there anything else I should be doing or looking out for?

    If his condition isn't improving and he isn't returning to his normal weight, I'm going to take him to the vet, but I'm hoping with good care he'll be okay, because he would be absolutely terrified to see a vet, considering he's so shy.

    Thanks! I'll be updating as his condition changes (sorry for the long post, I just want to give as much info and detail as possible!)

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    100 grams is a pretty significant weight loss. According to guinealynx, 3 oz of weight loss is extreme red alert. He is at 3.5 oz lost. I would get him in to a vet soon. Also, make sure you're weighing at the same time, because food can and will make a huge difference in weights.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    BTW, this is where I got my information from http://www.guinealynx.info/weigh.html

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    Thanks for the link!

    When I weighed him today he was at 700g which is only 1.7oz lost. I'm going to be constantly weighing at the same time every day and if it drops more I'm taking him to a vet.

    Seeing he was up 50g from last nights weigh-in made me feel a lot better about his situation but I'm watching him very carefully now

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    50 Grams after he ate pellets right? You should try to feed after you weigh. A gram isn't much (a Nutrasweet packet is 1 gram). So a pellet will weigh several. If he's eating normally it wouldn't be a concern as much, but yes, keep weighing him. If he continues to gain, then it could have been something that he has already gotten over. Good luck. Keep us updated. Make sure that if he isn't eating normally you handfeed. It's imperative he has something going through him all the time.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    Yesterday he had been weighed after eating pellets as well though. (Tomorrow I'll weigh him right in the morning before he eats a thing)

    How do I handfeed him? I remember seeing a link to handfeeding a little while ago but I don't remember where it was. I just want to be prepared in case it becomes necessary.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I'd definitely do the weights before eating, it is more accurate that way. Handfeeding is simply taking him out and trying to get him to eat out of your hands, so you know what's going in. If he isn't eating still, then you will need some Critical Care, or to make a pellet slushy. I always use the slushy. I just put some pellets with some water into my Baby Bullet (like a blender) and often will chop up their favorite veggies and blend it in. THen you take a syringe and gently feed them. You have to be VERY careful doing this to make sure that you don't let them aspirate. Let me go check Guinea lynx for handfeeding information.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I just found it on Guinea lynx! Thanks for your help

    He seems to be eating pellets, but not so many veggies. I think I might chop up some veggies to mix in with pellets and hopefully he'll eat them

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I would suggest maybe making some pellet slushy, and rubbing it over his veggies to see if he will eat them like that.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I'll have to try all of these things and see what works. I love my Theodore too much to let him get worse. Definitely going to do everything I can

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I have two that will randomly lose weight. It's quite startling. I do the pellet slushy for a week, while still offering their normal foods and they perk right back up.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I just chopped up a bit of lettuce and mixed it in with the pellets, I also put two whole leaves of lettuce in the cage which he's eating with Oliver right now. I have to head to school for another 3 hours and when I get home I'll take him out and make sure he's pooping

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    If you still haven't noticed him pooping, it could be bloat. If so, come back and let us know so that we can help you get through the bloat.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    Update:

    I've had him out for about an hour now. He ate a tiny baby carrot but won't touch anything else. He also isn't drinking or pooping, and he's staying in his hidey and not moving.
    We're going to call the clinic that we bring our cat to and see if they have any exotic pet specialists. If not, we're going to make an appointment at the vet which @madelineelaine goes to. I don't want my baby getting any worse and it really seems like it's getting serious

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I just wanted to tell you that I am keeping your Theodore in my prayers. Good luck at the veterinarian. I hope it isn't serious and Theodore has a speedy recovery.

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    I meant to update last night but I've been so busy!

    The vet that we bring our cat to deals with exotic pets too, so we have an appointment this afternoon for Theo to go in. I've printed off the list of dangerous meds, and safe meds, from guinea lynx, in case the vet wants to prescribe anything for Theo.

    After Theo was out for 3 hours yesterday, he had pooped a bit, but wasn't drinking much or eating much. When we got back in the cage with Oliver, he perked up a bit but was still seeming lethargic. I had him separated from Oliver last night (Theo was on the loft with the ramp blocked off), and he was pooping and eating hay and a bit of his pellets. My mom gave him a carrot this morning which he gobbled up, as well as some lettuce (apparently he ate it fast and came back for more - twice). I saw him drinking lots today as well. He is still at a low weight (around 675g I'd say) so even though he's perking up, we're definitely still taking him to the vet.

    I'm so glad he's starting to look a bit better. I'm washing towels and hidey's now so that his travel cage will be clean and comfy for his appointment (which is a little under 5 hours away).

    I'll keep updating!

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    Update: my local vet has decided it probably would be best if we go to a different vet who is more experienced in these situations and has the equipment. We called them and they're getting us in for 4:30! I'm very happy about this. I'm also picking up some critical care, vitamin c, and probiotics from a friend just in case. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

    My appointment prep:
    All the pig stuff that I need has been washed
    I'm putting a towel with fleece on top in the travel cage. + hay, a hidey, his stuffed carrot, and a water bottle.
    I'm also bringing a list of safe & unsafe meds from guinea lynx, a waterproof quilt, a list of his weigh ins from the past few weeks, and a container with some veggies.
    Hopefully he'll do alright!

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    Re: Theodore's health thread

    Just got home from the vet!

    Theo was being such a good boy, he was letting the vet do her job. (he weighed in at 660g)
    He seems to be perfectly fine, except for a little raspiness in his lungs.
    She thinks it's likely a URI so we're treating with baytril for a week, and I'll be giving him vitamin c and a probiotic as well.
    I've got critical care as well in case he isn't eating.

    He has been eating lettuce, and I just gave him his baytril and vitamin c (he took it like a good little piggy!). He's back in with Oliver now and seems to be alright.

    As said before, updates will be coming

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    I'm so happy to read that the vet didn't find anything too serious with Theodore. It's so good that he is back to eating again. Tell him to keep taking his medications like a good boy and to get well soon.

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