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    Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Which is better? Oxbow products or Kaytee products? Soooo confused !
    Help...pleaaasssseeee.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Hands down. Oxbow! Kaytee is a cheap subsitute. KMS is another best feed and products.
    The third is Purina's Mazuri plain pellets. Oxbow and KMS also sell great hay.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    agree with suzi! kaytee is awful nasty stuff and oxbow though i've never tried it looks like very nice hay. so go with oxbow not kaytee! your pig(s) will thank you for it!!

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    thank you!

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    OMG no question. Kaytee is garbage food. Very low quality. No contest.

    Oxbow is MUCH MUCH better product.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    What about LM Animal Farms? LM Animal Farms™ Timothy Hay-Kob®, 3lb. - 2186103 | Tractor Supply Company

    Is this stuff any good?

    I don't even know where to get Oxbow around here... do they sell it in stores?

    Ok <---- I'm a dork.. they sell it right up the street . Like two min away

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    What about Kaytee food such as forti-diet?

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Hands down oxbow!!! They are the best. organic, natral food, they do not add uneeded seeds and dried fruits that kaytee uses. most petstores have a partner ship with kaytee so you wont be able to find it at most petstores. i buy mine at amazon for $8. shipping is $4.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Also, to respond to other questions...
    LM farms is very good to!!
    Kaytees forti-diet add extra seeds, chemicals, and dried fruits that make this food unheathly.
    Like i said, i buy mine from amazon.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Piggies View Post
    What about Kaytee food such as forti-diet?
    Nope! Stick with Oxbow or KM pellets. They are MUCH better than Kaytee.
    Petsmart usually sells Oxbow or you can buy it on-line. I get mine at drsfostersmith.com

    Kaytee pretty much has the worst reputation for ALL small animal foods. Just look at the ingredients and there is a lot of filler. I think there is some good info on guinealynx.com that has some detailed articles about the differences in the foods if you want more info.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Good thing I just bought a big thing of Kay-Tee yesterday.. *sigh* I made sure I didn't get the kind w/ seeds and colored bits... ballz!
    Last edited by Ly&Pigs; 11-05-11 at 02:26 pm. Reason: profanity not allowed on forum, ty

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Just to let everyone know, I have Oxbow at my local PetSmart (and kaytee but i'm definitely going w/ oxbow )

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Oxbow! By a landslide! Both by my experience and as people on this forum have already told you, Kaytee isin't the best food for your animals by any means, and Oxbow is one of the best, both with their hay and their pellets .

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Here's my standard caution about Oxbow pellets. For most pigs, they're just fine, an excellent pellet. But some pigs, for whatever reasons, will have sludgy urine from them. It's possibly because Oxbow uses a different calcium compound in their pellets than some others do, but undoubtedly other factors enter in -- diet, pig genetics, the phase of the moon, whatever.

    But if your pig has powdery or sludgy urine on Oxbow pellets, then change to something else. No one has yet reported any problems with Kleenmama's, but they're not available outside the US.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    One additional suggestion regarding pellets........my boy is v-e-r-y fussy about his pellets. If he doesn't like them.........he simply won't eat them at all, which also means that he stops drinking water. (he drinks after he eats hay and pellets).

    He seemed to to like KMS pellets and we used those until our supply was exhausted. I couldn't justify ordering their pellets until I have the need to order more hay. A breeder friend suggested that I look for "Blue Seal" brand which I found at a local feed store. Chester absolutely loves them and best of all, they are readily accessible from the feed store.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    I'm not familiar with "Blue Seal". Can you post the ingredients?

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Quote Originally Posted by FuryanGoddess View Post
    What about LM Animal Farms? LM Animal Farms™ Timothy Hay-Kob®, 3lb. - 2186103 | Tractor Supply Company

    Is this stuff any good?
    No. If you look at the picture, the hay is brown, looks more like straw, looks hard, appears to be mostly stem (the hard stalks -- you want to look for lots of blade [the soft pieces]). The only brands you can always count on for quality are Oxbow and KMS Hayloft. If you are looking at other options, you need to look for hay that is green, soft and smells fresh. As for pellets, look through the ingredients list and avoid ingredients such as beet pulp, animal products (animal fat, meat, tallow, digest, sterols, bone meal, and eggs), corn products, rice bran and rice flour, seeds/nuts/colorful bits, vegetable fiber, corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup, propylene glycol, sucrose, propyl gallate, potassium sorbate, sodium nitrate/nitrite/metabisulfate, ethoxyquin, butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA) or butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), FD&C reds/blues/yellows.

    If you do these tests against KMS or Oxbow, you'll find both their hay and pellets are acceptable. It's hit-and-miss with other brands, so you must be careful and watch out for the above "to-avoid" ingredients and to examine the hay before you buy it.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    Quote Originally Posted by CavyMama View Post
    I'm not familiar with "Blue Seal". Can you post the ingredients?
    I'd be happy to do so, but try as I may, I cannot find the ingredients posted from a source I trust. I bought them upon recommendation of a breeder friend who has been breeding and showing cavies for 27 years. They are also recommended by the local cavy rescue.

    I buy them from the feed store where they are repackaged in 5 lb. bags, so I don't have the packaging to refer to. However, perhaps I will go to the helpful folks at the feed store on Monday and see what I can learn from them.

    Whether nutritionally "perfect" or not, the very fact that Chester loves them and will eat almost no other pellet is good enough right now. Almost on cue, he just ran up onto his "balcony" and is munching his pellets
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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    A look at the list of ingredients should show hay as the main ingredient. Some will show cornmeal or other ingredients that but this is an red flag as food to avoid. The fact that Blue Seal doesn't list ingredients on their own website is another red flag.

    A recommendation from a breeder doesn't hold much water as they are out for profit and are not as concerned with feeding the healthy food as with nice looking animals. Many people who don't know what to look for in ingredients can recommend a food their pet likes without thinking about what goes into the food.

    Your pigs may LOVE Blue Seal but that doesn't mean they should be eating it. Guinea pigs LOVE the pellets with colorful bits in them but they shouldn't be eating them either. Guinea pigs would eat an entire bag of carrots because they like them but it doesn't mean they should.

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    Re: Oxbow vs Kaytee

    A word of caution about feed store pellets -- I have a friend who lost two GPs to urinary tract stones, and had another which had developed them. Since switching to KM, the one has cleared up, and the others have no problems. She strongly suspects, and I agree, that the feed store pellets were the main culprit.

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