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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Update for Scooter:

    Tuesday will be three weeks since Scooter has finished his antibiotics. He has shown slow signs of improvement, most notable attitude and weight gain. A couple of days ago he actually went above 1300. Briefly, but he was there. Been several months since that has happened, and his last 3 Sunday weigh ins have been at or above the 1200 gram mark.

    As some of you may have seen, I found the buddy for Scooter that he seems to so desperately have needed. And realized that his new buddy needed him just as badly. There have been significant changes in both pigs over the last 24 hours since meeting.

    Scooter has been eating his hay and pellets much, much more. He has been out playing, and he is vocalizing the way he used to once again. But the most notable change has been.........

    He all of a sudden will use the water bottles again. Just like that. It started yesterday in the introduction pen, and as I sit here and type I'm watching him on the camera eat pellets and drink from the bottle as if nothing was different.

    He was more depressed about losing Punkin than I understood. It has literally been like a switch has been flipped, and the old Scooter has come running back. I attributed a lot of the changes in his personality due to his illness. His relationship with Leo so far has been great, but of course not like what he had with Punkin. He and his brother were exceptionally close, and I was a lucky piggy parent to have been a part of it.

    There is a great, big bright white light at the end of the tunnel. It's getting brighter.

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    Update for Scooter:

    Tuesday will be three weeks since Scooter has finished his antibiotics. He has shown slow signs of improvement, most notable attitude and weight gain. A couple of days ago he actually went above 1300. Briefly, but he was there. Been several months since that has happened, and his last 3 Sunday weigh ins have been at or above the 1200 gram mark.

    As some of you may have seen, I found the buddy for Scooter that he seems to so desperately have needed. And realized that his new buddy needed him just as badly. There have been significant changes in both pigs over the last 24 hours since meeting.

    Scooter has been eating his hay and pellets much, much more. He has been out playing, and he is vocalizing the way he used to once again. But the most notable change has been.........

    He all of a sudden will use the water bottles again. Just like that. It started yesterday in the introduction pen, and as I sit here and type I'm watching him on the camera eat pellets and drink from the bottle as if nothing was different.

    He was more depressed about losing Punkin than I understood. It has literally been like a switch has been flipped, and the old Scooter has come running back. I attributed a lot of the changes in his personality due to his illness. His relationship with Leo so far has been great, but of course not like what he had with Punkin. He and his brother were exceptionally close, and I was a lucky piggy parent to have been a part of it.

    There is a great, big bright white light at the end of the tunnel. It's getting brighter.
    So happy to hear! A Christmas miracle! So glad this long stressful journey is as good as over. Happy 2020!

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    That is such wonderful news. I think Leo was just waiting for you to adopt him so he could become Scooter's new friend. It was meant to be. Happy New Year to you and your family!

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    The most wonderful update yet, indeed---- Scooter restored to himself, Leo with a new life better than he's ever known--- I hope that light only glows brighter and brighter into the new year, for all of you!

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Looks like this is hopefully the final update for Scooter on this issue.



    Scooter's weight is hovering between 1200-1250. He is a very active, happy boy again. He has not had any supplementation with Critical Care or other meds whatsoever since being introduced to Leo. He is eating his entire pepper slice every morning, and begging constantly for treats. He drinks his water normally. He eats his pellets normally. And he is eating his hay normally again. Except for being lighter, he seems to be his normal self with one exception.

    He is a much more vocal pig than he used to be. Every time I walk through the door he is wheeking, and loudly. He's teaching Leo to do it. He runs around the cage and pen burbling happily to himself.

    On some level, perhaps maybe he understands what he went through and what he lost. Maybe it's just wishful thinking. What I do know, is that Leo has come out of his shell and is both a joy to be around and to have around. They are the best of buddies.


    And Scooter has a renewed soul.

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    Looks like this is hopefully the final update for Scooter on this issue.



    Scooter's weight is hovering between 1200-1250. He is a very active, happy boy again. He has not had any supplementation with Critical Care or other meds whatsoever since being introduced to Leo. He is eating his entire pepper slice every morning, and begging constantly for treats. He drinks his water normally. He eats his pellets normally. And he is eating his hay normally again. Except for being lighter, he seems to be his normal self with one exception.

    He is a much more vocal pig than he used to be. Every time I walk through the door he is wheeking, and loudly. He's teaching Leo to do it. He runs around the cage and pen burbling happily to himself.

    On some level, perhaps maybe he understands what he went through and what he lost. Maybe it's just wishful thinking. What I do know, is that Leo has come out of his shell and is both a joy to be around and to have around. They are the best of buddies.


    And Scooter has a renewed soul.
    So happy to hear! May this be a happy new year!

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    What a Happily Ever After for both sweet boys!

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    Such wonderful news about both Scooter and Leo. Here is to many years of happiness and adventures for both boys.

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    Fantastic news! I am so happy for you, Scooter and Leo.

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    I had pretty high hopes. Perhaps not out of the woods yet.


    Noticed on Wednesday that maybe Scooter was eating a little slower than usual. Yesterday morning, didn't finish his pepper slice. I was out most of the day and from what little I did see, he didn't seem quite as active. Last night watching him eat his bedtime salad, I noticed that he was eating slower than normal. On a whim, decided to weigh him.

    He was down to 1180. And that was at the end of the day, when his weight should have been up after eating and drinking all day. So I took him out of the cage to eat a cucumber slice and he took a while to eat it, opening his mouth wide once or twice as if he had something stuck.

    This morning, down to 1160. Picked at his pepper slice but didn't eat much. Gave him some metacam and two full syringes of Critical Care which he happily gobbled (even going so far as to go and pick up the syringe on his own when I wasn't quick enough), and some vitamin C. He went back in his cage and picked at his pepper slice some more, nibbled at his pellet bowl and ate a little hay.

    Will be calling the vet at 9. I feel like a balloon that someone has just stuck a pin into.

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    I had pretty high hopes. Perhaps not out of the woods yet.


    Noticed on Wednesday that maybe Scooter was eating a little slower than usual. Yesterday morning, didn't finish his pepper slice. I was out most of the day and from what little I did see, he didn't seem quite as active. Last night watching him eat his bedtime salad, I noticed that he was eating slower than normal. On a whim, decided to weigh him.

    He was down to 1180. And that was at the end of the day, when his weight should have been up after eating and drinking all day. So I took him out of the cage to eat a cucumber slice and he took a while to eat it, opening his mouth wide once or twice as if he had something stuck.

    This morning, down to 1160. Picked at his pepper slice but didn't eat much. Gave him some metacam and two full syringes of Critical Care which he happily gobbled (even going so far as to go and pick up the syringe on his own when I wasn't quick enough), and some vitamin C. He went back in his cage and picked at his pepper slice some more, nibbled at his pellet bowl and ate a little hay.

    Will be calling the vet at 9. I feel like a balloon that someone has just stuck a pin into.
    Oh no! Poor Scooter. Im so sorry hes under the weather. :-( I know he will have great care with you, and hope he is on the mend soon. Please keep updating us!

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    Man... Sending energy to our scooter. Xx

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    I just saw this today or would have replied sooner.

    I am sending good thoughts your way @GuineaPigPapa . You and Scooter have been through so much recently. I am waiting patiently for an update and hoping for good news.

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    He has a vet appt for Monday afternoon.

    I know it's going to take a few days for the meds to kick in. He's hungry but doesn't seem to be able to eat much on his own. Still goes gaga for Critical Care.

    He was 1160 yesterday morning, 1185 last night. Dropped to 1130 by this morning. I've seen him trying to eat pellets and hay, and last night he had an orange segment caught in his mouth. He was a bit panicked trying to dislodge it. He HAS been up and around, grumbling and playing and very talkative. Very interested in food but when it's given to him, he just seems to give up.

    I fed him two syringes full of CC this morning, and have since offered it to him in a bowl which he seems to eagerly eat. So he's getting some into him on his own.

    Just have to wait and see. I'll know more by Monday/Tuesday.

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    I am sending all of my best wishes to Scooter. I'm so glad to hear that he is active and very eager to eat his critical care mixture. He has such a positive attitude and is such a little fighter.

    On a side note, I just wanted to say how much I admire your dedication to your piggies health and welfare. Your updates on how you manage their health care issues have helped me so much and I am positive that they have helped others as well.

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    Update for Scooter:

    This morning, eating Critical care both on his own, and from the bowl. Nibbled his pepper slice, nibbled a cucumber slice but that was all. Looked like he was trying to eat some hay, but hasn't had any water from the bottles nor any pellets at all. His weight was down to 1107 at 6am.

    Fast forward to lunch time. Wouldn't even try to eat his salad. Mixed up a batch of critical care and left some out for him to try himself, and some in a syringe in case he wouldn't. He didn't want any of either. Force feeding him was very slow going, and he spit out a fair bit of what was gotten into him. I can feel some obstruction in his mouth when I use the 1ml syringe to give him water. His spirits seem fine, but this is virtually a mirror image of how Punkins problem started at the beginning of September. At that time, it was found that Punkin's molars had overgrown into points and were stabbing his tongue.

    The antibiotic and metacam doesn't seem to have made any difference whatsoever, he has continued progressing downward. With the obstructions that I can feel in his mouth, it seems likely that his molars are overgrown. The last dental work he had at all was minimal and it was on October 31st.

    I have spoken a couple of times with his vet tech over the weekend. Scooter will go in on an emergency basis first thing tomorrow morning, and he will be looked at before their afternoon surgeries begin.

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    Bella and I sending strength and energy to our little guy and to you. Xx

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    Re: Scooter's medical thread

    Sorry that you both are going through this.......yet again. You and I have the worst luck with piggies and their dental problems, don't we? I'm always amazed at just how quickly their molars grow.

    Yes, every detail that you have posted sound like the progression of overgrown molars when they develop points/spurs that begin to dig into the tongue. The good news is that it can be remedied for now. Not so good news is that this may be an ongoing issue for him with repeat dental procedures.

    You know, I wonder how much of this issue is genetic? Weren't Punkin and Scooter litter mates? Please ask your esteemed Vet what the published literature says about the issue.

    All the best to our boy Scooter tomorrow..........and his Papa too!

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    Bella and I sending strength and energy to our little guy and to you. Xx
    Thank you, @Artista. We always very much appreciate your strength and well wishes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spy9doc View Post
    Sorry that you both are going through this.......yet again. You and I have the worst luck with piggies and their dental problems, don't we? I'm always amazed at just how quickly their molars grow.

    Yes, every detail that you have posted sound like the progression of overgrown molars when they develop points/spurs that begin to dig into the tongue. The good news is that it can be remedied for now. Not so good news is that this may be an ongoing issue for him with repeat dental procedures.

    You know, I wonder how much of this issue is genetic? Weren't Punkin and Scooter litter mates? Please ask your esteemed Vet what the published literature says about the issue.

    All the best to our boy Scooter tomorrow..........and his Papa too!


    Punkin and Scooter were indeed littermates. Pretty much inseparable from the day they were born. Scooter HAS had dental work, but we assumed it was simply because of the illness he had and the fact that the antibiotic killed his appetite, facilitating almost a complete Critical Care diet which likely led to the overgrowth. Now, I'm not so sure.

    To be perfectly honest, @spy9doc, It's beginning to make me wonder if I'M doing something wrong. He's been getting veggies, yes, but he's been voracious with his hay and pellets again since being introduced to Leo. That's only a month ago, and I wonder if this issue hadn't been brewing earlier and his improved diet after the infection was gone and his new buddy just delayed this. I just don't know.

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