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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Hurray! Bella Rose and I are thrilled!

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    I've seen some more improvements today. He seems to be taking in more hay, but not really eating anything else on his own. The Baytril may be partly to blame for that, we just don't know. He also doesn't drink on his own, at all. Which seems kind of strange to me, as when Sly had mouth pain he drank copiously where Punkin drinks nothing at all. He gets several 1ml syringes of water at every CC feeding. He's been lazy most of the day, but both of them have been and tonight they've both been running around playing again.

    The slobbers have also stopped, even when he was due for another dose of metacam. Dr Ker lowered his dose from .45 to .30 yesterday, and that seems to have been adequate. Another day or so and I think we'll stop the metacam altogether and see how he does.

    Other than the little bit of pepper slice this morning, he hasn't eating anything other than some hay and of course his Critical Care. Baby steps.

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    I've seen some more improvements today. He seems to be taking in more hay, but not really eating anything else on his own. The Baytril may be partly to blame for that, we just don't know. He also doesn't drink on his own, at all. Which seems kind of strange to me, as when Sly had mouth pain he drank copiously where Punkin drinks nothing at all. He gets several 1ml syringes of water at every CC feeding. He's been lazy most of the day, but both of them have been and tonight they've both been running around playing again.

    The slobbers have also stopped, even when he was due for another dose of metacam. Dr Ker lowered his dose from .45 to .30 yesterday, and that seems to have been adequate. Another day or so and I think we'll stop the metacam altogether and see how he does.

    Other than the little bit of pepper slice this morning, he hasn't eating anything other than some hay and of course his Critical Care. Baby steps.
    Mooshy stopped eating on baytril. Vet switched her to something else and problem solved. Baytril is known to have these effects. I'd switch.

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Artista View Post
    Mooshy stopped eating on baytril. Vet switched her to something else and problem solved. Baytril is known to have these effects. I'd switch.
    Punkin stopped eating a week ago. Being on the Baytril now is finally gotten him feeling well enough that he is starting to eat on his own again. As we speak hes had a little parsley, and hes currently mangling a spinach leaf. Hes only been on it for 24 hours and so far I've seen improvement.

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    I'm so glad Punkin is feeling better! I've been watching his thread with bated breath hoping for the best, and when I read that he'd managed a bit of pepper slice on his own, I actually clapped! Like you said, it's baby steps... but improvement is awesome. Tannim gives two paws up!

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Today's update:

    Not much new to report today. I had to leave early this morning so I didn't get to watch him right after his 6am feeding. I gave him his pepper slice and I know he sat and worried it for some time, but I have no idea how much he actually got in him because his brother Scooter the garbage pail came along and finished it.

    He's still fairly inactive, and I'm sure that the Baytril has quite a bit to do with that. I have seen him at his hay pile a couple of times, but no idea how much he's actually getting. His around the clock feedings continue.

    On a positive note, his weight went from 1398 grams yesterday morning, up to 1435 grams today.

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    @Guinea Pig Papa Any updates on Punkin?

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

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    @Guinea Pig Papa Any updates on Punkin?
    Sadly, no. There's been no real change. His weight is holding stable, this morning was 1438 grams. He has an appointment with the vet Monday at 5pm. At that time I am going to insist the xrays be done. He's still being fed around the clock and is largely unable to eat anything on his own. He tries and is very interested, and sometimes he gets a little but not much. He still plays a bit with his brother in the evening. Most of the time he just sleeps in his hidey and and he seems so sad it breaks my heart.

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    Oh no... breaking my heart too... I'll be praying for him (and you as you take care of him)!

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Morning update:

    Punkin was an active boy last night. Played with his brother for 2-3 hours, which was surprising. I changed the hay yesterday and added some beautiful Orchard Grass, and he was pretty happy with it. He was eating, and he was getting some which made me very, very happy.

    Put down their bedtime salad, and he was very interested in that too. I watched several parsley leaves disappear into his mouth, along with a leaf or two of spinach. Encouraging. He's slow, but he's getting some.

    This morning, weight up again to 1445 grams. His weight has gone from 1398 grams Tuesday morning, and today he is up to 1445 grams. Thrilled that we're going up, instead of down.

    Lastly, after a full syringe of Critical Care at 6am, I tried his pepper slice. He ate I would say, roughly a third of it. Slowly, but he ate it. Ripped out chunks and chewed and swallowed, and he was very interested in it. Given enough time he may have eaten all of it, but since he'd had 12CC of Critical Care I think he was just plain full.

    I'm not going to jump the gun here and say we've turned the corner. What I will say is that the last 12 hours have brought about some changes which I am hoping are significant, and hoping they continue.

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    Maybe you haven't won the war, but you've definitely won a battle! Wonderful news!!!

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    I am happy to see this update. Hopefully Punkin will continue to improve. Nutter Butter and I will be watching for further updates.

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    Bella Rose and I look forward to updates as well. Sending love and energy to you all.

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    Update for Chunky Monkey:

    His weight has slid backward a bit the last couple of days, but more or less stable. It was 1445 Saturday morning, but back to 1416 today.

    I have discovered that he can eat some of his veggies if they are held for him. He can take bites with his incisors, and then twists his head to rip pieces out which he can eat. He's eaten most of his daily pepper slices the last two days, over a couple of sittings mind you. He ate a baby carrot last night which was cut in half, to give him an edge to work with. He also ate a cucumber slice cut in half, and he left the skin.

    He had an appointment today at 5. Other than his incisors being angled now from chewing on one side of his mouth, his teeth are all otherwise normal appearing. The antibiotics appear to slowly be doing their job.

    He is now booked for xrays on Thursday. We need to take a deeper look at what is going on inside his mouth. Dr Ker feels that it may also be one of the so-called "cheek teeth" and is very much hoping the consistent antibiotics will do the trick, but surgery may also be required. At this point we just don't know, but I can say that he has been eating somewhat better on his own. He managed parsley last night as well as some kale and spinach leaves.

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    Update:

    Punkin will be spending the day at the vet today so that they can do xrays. His eating improves little by little. This morning he was given his Critical Care, and a small slice of apple with the skin cut off. He ate the entire apple slice with little to no help. Might be some light at the end of the tunnel.

    In other news, I have a question.

    Has anyone had an ill pig, and had their other pig start acting strangely because of it? Scooter has not been eating all of the salad given to them even though the amount has been decreased to compensate for Punkin eating little to none. Two days in a row now, Scooter has not finished his pepper slice. Yesterday he left a little, but today he left most of it. So I decided to weigh him again. He has dropped 65 grams since Sunday morning. I see him eat and drink, so I'm not sure what his issue is?

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    @Guinea Pig Papa When MuMu was ill Bella would get in a bit of a funk. Not terrible, just enough to notice she was a bit off. If Punkin is the boss pig Scooter might be a little reluctant to dive into his salad.

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    The hits keep on coming.

    Putting a few variables together, and realized a couple of things. I have heard Scooter cough a couple of times over the last couple of days. Nothing major.

    He's been eating less of his salad at noon and at night, and now not finishing the pepper slices. Gave him an apple slice which he loves, didn't finish it. Left some Critical Care in a bowl which he DID finish, and gave him a cucumber slice which he ate very little of. All of these things are his favourites, and he's left most of them. He's also sleeping in the cozy a lot.

    So in short, making an appointment for him now as well. I'm thinking it's likely a URI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    The hits keep on coming.

    Putting a few variables together, and realized a couple of things. I have heard Scooter cough a couple of times over the last couple of days. Nothing major.

    He's been eating less of his salad at noon and at night, and now not finishing the pepper slices. Gave him an apple slice which he loves, didn't finish it. Left some Critical Care in a bowl which he DID finish, and gave him a cucumber slice which he ate very little of. All of these things are his favourites, and he's left most of them. He's also sleeping in the cozy a lot.

    So in short, making an appointment for him now as well. I'm thinking it's likely a URI.
    Sorry to hear. Sending love and healing prayers to you all.

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    Thank you, @Artista. Scooter goes at 0930 tomorrow. Pretty sure his will at least be a fairly simple solution.

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    Re: Punkin's medical thread

    Update for Punkin:

    X rays are done. Molars are fine, no elongated roots. The issue appears to be with one of his upper incisors.


    Looking at the x rays, his upper left incisor is infected. The bone on that side of his upper jaw is all white, and Dr Ker used the term "all messed up". Worst case scenario is to remove the tooth, which is major.

    We have switched antibiotics to Sulfatrim, .75ml twice daily for 14 days. His eating has somewhat improved on the 10 days of Baytril but no way to know how much improvement has been gained because prior x rays hadn't been done. Anything I need for him, I can call and get. If he worsens on the Sulfatrim, a phone call will change it.

    We are to continue with the antibiotics, the Metacam for pain management and the round the clock feedings, insofar as his eating doesn't improve. We can back off the feedings somewhat if eating on his own improves.

    So for now, we at least know what we are up against, and it seems as though it may be an uphill battle.

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