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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Thank you, we have that chart taped to our fridge and refer to it daily on what to give the guinea pigs. We've read all these things on the forum/website but the vet was contradicting much of it and we just wanted to double check. I know a lot of people seem to post on here about vets that are not as knowledgeable. Thank you for your input. I think our guinea pigs favorite food is carrots so it would be a shame to cut those out entirely. They usually quickly take the carrot and run to their houses to eat them. We only give them to them 2-3 times a week though.

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    He doesn't need additional vitamin C if you're giving him veggies that are high in vitamin C, like bell peppers. There's a chart on this page that you can sort on any particular column to find foods that are high in a particular vitamin: https://www.guineapigcages.com/forum...us-Plants-List

    Bits of fruit are fine occasionally, but sugar can upset the good/bad balance of bacteria in the gut and cause digestive upsets. But mine have always gotten a bit of fruit two or three times a week with no ill effects.

    Have your pigs been outside? If not, they almost certainly don't have worms.

    Ivermectin isn't used to treat dandruff, just parasites. If you don't think they've got lice or mites, don't use the ivermectin. The Gorgeous Guineas stuff should take care of any dry skin.

    This guy may be an exotic vet, but I'm not impressed.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Hello all, I have an update on Sam . He is still squeaking while pooping. Everytime I check right after the noise, he has multiple poops in his butt. I read on other threads about pelletless diets and we took them off pellets for two days and that stopped the squeaking but some of their poops were smaller. They would also dry quicker. They also didn't have any white spots on their fleece.

    We have started giving them a much smaller amount of pellets than before and he has started squeaking again and having multiple poops stuck in his butt but not as often. We are on Hayloft KMS pellets. We give them unlimited hay and green/red leaf lettuce and green pepper every day. I read somewhere to switch to a pellet without soy. What do you think? Sam's cage mate, Frodo, has no issues with the pellets and they both love their pellets. We also want to make sure they get the proper nutrients but we don't want Sam to be in pain or develop bladder stones.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    It sounds to me like he already has a bladder stone. I'd get him to a good exotic vet for an x-ray, ASAP.

    A small stone can fall into the urethra and block the passage of urine completely. That's a full-blown, expensive, maybe fatal medical emergency. You need to check it out and let the vet recommend appropriate treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpatters View Post
    It sounds to me like he already has a bladder stone. I'd get him to a good exotic vet for an x-ray, ASAP.

    A small stone can fall into the urethra and block the passage of urine completely. That's a full-blown, expensive, maybe fatal medical emergency. You need to check it out and let the vet recommend appropriate treatment.
    Okay, we are having trouble finding a cavy savvy vet. We drove over an hour and the vet was trying to deworm the guinea pig and prescribe a shampoo with pesticides when he had no symptoms.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Where are you? City/state, not your actual address. We might be able to help you find one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpatters View Post
    Where are you? City/state, not your actual address. We might be able to help you find one.
    Riverview, Florida 33659

    Someone earlier on this thread recommended Citrus Park and they weren't good. http://citrusparkanimalhospital.com/

    We go to Boyette Animal hospital locally for nail trim and we had Sam in for a check up before but they said he was fine if he is still is active and eating and drinking normally. They don't have a guinea pig specialist.
    http://boyetteanimalhospital.com/

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Dr. Ferrera at Boyette Animal Hospital has some experience with exotics. So does Dr. Katy Heppner at Brandon Lakes Animal Hospital.

    Dr. Rubenstein at Four Paws Veterinary Hospital is an exotic vet.

    I don't know anything about these vets. i just found them by googling. But I'd start with Rubenstein, and if he doesn't work out, then one of the other two.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    So an update, we went back to Boyette Animal Hospital and saw Dr. Geoff instead of Ferrera (Both are exotic pet doctors). Sam got x-rays and no bladder stones or visible sludge (will upload images later). He also analyzed his urine and they said his urine was normal. They prescribed Metacam once a day for two weeks for the pain. He said to come back in two weeks if symptoms don't improve and we may need to get an ultra sound. Any thoughts? He is still squeaking while pooping and having multiple poops come out at once.

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    Dr. Ferrera at Boyette Animal Hospital has some experience with exotics. So does Dr. Katy Heppner at Brandon Lakes Animal Hospital.

    Dr. Rubenstein at Four Paws Veterinary Hospital is an exotic vet.

    I don't know anything about these vets. i just found them by googling. But I'd start with Rubenstein, and if he doesn't work out, then one of the other two.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Without reading back, is his poop soft and sticky? If so, exactly how many veggies are you giving him?

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by bpatters View Post
    Without reading back, is his poop soft and sticky? If so, exactly how many veggies are you giving him?
    They are sometimes soft and sticky but still pellet shaped. We usually give a hand full of red/green lettuce in the morning and a slice of green pepper in the evening. It should be equal to a cup each but we probably should measure it. The other guinea pig isn't having any issues. They are around 1100 grams so not that big. Vet says they are a good weight but Sam has lost a little weight.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    It's possible that he's just recovering from passing a stone or sludge or a UTI. Both can leave them sore and irritated. It seemed like my sow took forever to get over stones.

    Another possibility is that the stone didn't show on x-rays. Some stones can only be seen on an ultra sound.

    Hopefully the Metacam will give him some relief and you'll see an improvement shortly. Keep a very close eye on him. In my opinion, two weeks is a long time to leave him squeaking. I'd give it a few days at most before I'd follow up if you don't see any improvement, especially since the Metacam should ease the pain.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Here are the x-ray pictures:

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    Here are also some pictures of bedding and poop. What do you all think?

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Sam is not sqeeking but he is still straining. He seems less active. Im used to hearing them do laps late at night when im sleeping. :( The doctor said that when he was poking his belly he would squeek indicating pain. Do you think he has a GI problem? Should i start him on a probiotic ? v

    His urine PH was 8.5.

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    The urine pH is normal.

    I'm not a radiologist, but the x-rays look normal to me.

    The poop looks a little dry. Have you tried syringing him water flavored with a little juice, or some Pedialyte?

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Ok, thank you. His poop is slimy when it comes out and smells kind of bad so will giving him more fluids make it worse? We've decreased the vegetables and pellets and offer more hay. He doesn't seem to be eating much hay though. We've made an appointment to go back to the vet on Monday morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by bpatters View Post
    The urine pH is normal.

    I'm not a radiologist, but the x-rays look normal to me.

    The poop looks a little dry. Have you tried syringing him water flavored with a little juice, or some Pedialyte?

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    Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Have any of the vets tested his feces? A few years ago Penny had a GI gram negative bacteria overgrowth and her poop smelled awful. Antibiotics (Baytril) and benebac sorted it out. You may want to take a look at this, I know it's under diarrhea but it may be worth it to get his feces tested since stones have been ruled out and you mention his poop smells bad. http://www.guinealynx.info/diarrhea.html

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    Okay, so we took Sam back into the vet today because he had lost 30 grams in two days. They didn't do a culture but they did a fecal float and a gram stain and didn't find any abnormalities. The vet prescribed critical care and metoclopramide. He is also referring us to Blue Pearl with further specialist for potential ultra sound and other tests...He is only 1.5 years old so hoping it isn't anything very serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rywen View Post
    Have any of the vets tested his feces? A few years ago Penny had a GI gram negative bacteria overgrowth and her poop smelled awful. Antibiotics (Baytril) and benebac sorted it out. You may want to take a look at this, I know it's under diarrhea but it may be worth it to get his feces tested since stones have been ruled out and you mention his poop smells bad. http://www.guinealynx.info/diarrhea.html

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    He lost another 13 grams in 1 day. I'm really worried .

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    Re: Sam is Squeaking while Pooping

    Quote Originally Posted by frotoandsam View Post
    He lost another 13 grams in 1 day. I'm really worried .
    Poor baby, are you feeding him critical care? I hope he starts to get better!

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