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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Artista View Post
    Oh my heart breaks. Why can't they have no issues and live forever? You are a great gp papa and he's blessed to be with you. I follow the lava empire on instagram with her 6 gps and you really do feel like its your gp too as you follow along.

    I pray Sly can get a lot more time with you. Bottom line is he knows all the love and care you have for him. From Bella Rose and I, we send you all loving thoughts. Xxx
    Thank you, Artista. It's true, you really do feel like you know people and their pigs, following them as you do through these forums and other media outlets. And you know how you feel when it happens to your babies, so you feel others' pain when it happens to theirs. I know it's the price we pay for the privilege to know and love these creatures as we do.

    Thank you so much for yours, and Bella Rose's support. Everyones' thoughts, prayers and support mean so very much to us.

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    I feel like this is a good time to share this photo. Sly had been living with us for 2 days. He was SO tiny. Photo taken December 19th, 2011.

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Called Sly's vet this morning.

    His vet is scheduled to go into surgery with another animal this morning, but they had a cancellation and Sly can get in at 2:30 this afternoon.

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    Called Sly's vet this morning.

    His vet is scheduled to go into surgery with another animal this morning, but they had a cancellation and Sly can get in at 2:30 this afternoon.
    Praying for good news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    I feel like this is a good time to share this photo. Sly had been living with us for 2 days. He was SO tiny. Photo taken December 19th, 2011.

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    LOVE!

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Update:

    That damn molar is overgrown again. It's a spike again, growing across his mouth and trapping his tongue down. His water consumption is fairly normal so I don't believe he's in pain yet.

    He is scheduled for surgery tomorrow morning. Dr Ker believes that Sly simply needs a minimum of anesthetic, and a quick trim.

    Will update tomorrow when Sly is home again tomorrow afternoon.

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    The little man is home now, and resting comfortably.

    I wasn't just the one molar as initially thought. Once he was under sedation, our vet realized that it was going to be the usual procedure that needed to be done.

    He's his usual, waddling, drunken sailor self. He's been eating this and that, had some apple and some critical care, and a short time ago he was out playing with one of his toilet paper tubes. Picking it up and tossing it around.

    It's been a big day. He's now gone to flop in his hay pile like a big comfy bed, puff himself up so he looks too big to eat, and relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    The little man is home now, and resting comfortably.

    I wasn't just the one molar as initially thought. Once he was under sedation, our vet realized that it was going to be the usual procedure that needed to be done.

    He's his usual, waddling, drunken sailor self. He's been eating this and that, had some apple and some critical care, and a short time ago he was out playing with one of his toilet paper tubes. Picking it up and tossing it around.

    It's been a big day. He's now gone to flop in his hay pile like a big comfy bed, puff himself up so he looks too big to eat, and relax.
    Happy to hear it went well! Go Sly!

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Wonderful news! Happy to learn all went well.

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    Wonderful news! Happy to learn all went well.
    Thank you!

    I was dismayed that it was only 5 weeks between this surgery and last, but I suspect that the broken incisor may have had a lot to do with it. It was about two weeks before he was eating properly again after that, and it was pointed out to me that that more than likely had a lot to do with it.

    All we can do now is watch and wait. He has two weeks worth of metacam, and the last time he was on it that long it made a big difference in everything he did.

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    Update for the little bear:

    It's been four weeks since his surgery. His vet and I had a discussion about pain management after the last round, and we decided to try him on metacam to see if it made a difference as he feels there may be some arthritis in his jaw.

    The first week he was on metacam he gained 27 grams, and when he was off for a week, he gained but only 7 grams. Back on the metacam, he gained almost 20 grams again.

    Age is catching up with the little man. He's still a happy, active pig, but I've seen changes in him just in the last 2 months. He came running out of his pigloo a few days ago for a carrot, and his back left leg wouldn't move. He enthusiastically dragged himself over anyway, and a couple of hours later he walked fine on it. His back legs tend to shuffle now as he walks or runs, but if he just steps around slowly there's no difference.

    He has a checkup a week from today. He is still eating very well, and indeed on the metacam seems to be eating better than he has in a while.

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    Thanks for keeping us updated!

    What you are describing is the typical presentation of osteoarthritis......at least in humans. It presents as stiffness and limited mobility early in the day, better movement during the day, and then stiffness again as nightfall approaches. I'm not surprised that Sly functions better with Metacam. It is an anti-inflammatory and should make his quality of life much better. I have pretty marked osteoarthritis from intense athletics plus a physical lifestyle and couldn't function without my Celebrex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spy9doc View Post
    Thanks for keeping us updated!

    What you are describing is the typical presentation of osteoarthritis......at least in humans. It presents as stiffness and limited mobility early in the day, better movement during the day, and then stiffness again as nightfall approaches. I'm not surprised that Sly functions better with Metacam. It is an anti-inflammatory and should make his quality of life much better. I have pretty marked osteoarthritis from intense athletics plus a physical lifestyle and couldn't function without my Celebrex.
    Thank you for reading!

    I realize that keeping a journal like this of what Sly goes through may become tedious for some, but if it helps one person understand what their pig is going through and help them make decisions, then it's worth it.

    I also have a form of arthritis, and have had it since I was 18. I know you'll be familiar with ankylosing spondylitis, but most won't be. I'm lucky in that I take one Aleve at night, and that's really all I require. I'm approaching 50, so I understand how lucky I am that one Aleve a day does the trick for me.

    Other than the teeth issues, Sly is reminding me of Poopy in the summer of 2016. The same leg started failing for Pooper, oddly enough. Sly is stiff when getting up after lying in his pigloo, and sometimes drags his legs behind him but he's done that for a couple of years. The leg not moving at all right away is new. Once he was up, he was much better.

    I know everyone who has watched their pigs age knows what I'm talking about when I say it's heartbreaking. At this point all I can do is give him all the love I have and the best care he can get. He's worth it. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinea Pig Papa View Post
    I know you'll be familiar with ankylosing spondylitis, but most won't be. I'm lucky in that I take one Aleve at night, and that's really all I require. I'm approaching 50, so I understand how lucky I am that one Aleve a day does the trick for me.

    I know everyone who has watched their pigs age knows what I'm talking about when I say it's heartbreaking. At this point all I can do is give him all the love I have and the best care he can get. He's worth it. :)
    Yes, of course I'm familiar with AS. You must be one of the lucky ones in that it apparently is progressing slowly. I've seen some pretty severe cases and the picture wasn't pretty. Yes, watching our beloved furballs age isn't easy.......even though we know that it is inevitable. I always hoped that Chester would live a long and happy life, but he was just as mortal as the rest of us. Sparky and Chip turned 2 y.o. in November and I treasure every day with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spy9doc View Post
    Yes, of course I'm familiar with AS. You must be one of the lucky ones in that it apparently is progressing slowly. I've seen some pretty severe cases and the picture wasn't pretty. Yes, watching our beloved furballs age isn't easy.......even though we know that it is inevitable. I always hoped that Chester would live a long and happy life, but he was just as mortal as the rest of us. Sparky and Chip turned 2 y.o. in November and I treasure every day with them.
    My AS is in the SI joints. I had some pain when I was 17 or so, but I was out with some friends in go karts one day, and when we were parking them at the end of our run, one of my friends bumped my kart from behind. Instant agony, I couldn't get up out of the kart. That's when I finally went and got a diagnosis.

    Every day I wake up, and I see those furry little faces staring at me is a gift. Sly, always staring at me over his pellet bowl, and the other two standing at the bars like starving little waifs. Hardly starving, at 1560 grams for one and 1460 for the other!

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    Sly had his checkup yesterday, at 5 weeks post surgery.

    He is now permanently on metacam. His molars are also overgrown again, and he is scheduled for surgery a week from today, the 31st.

    On a positive note, he is still eating well. At this weeks weigh-in, he gained the most in quite some time. He gained 33 grams, and is now up to 1250. Immediately post surgery just before Christmas, he was at his lightest point ever, at 1169 grams. In 4 weeks we've managed to get about 80 grams back on him. At the vets yesterday afternoon, he was 1261 grams but that was at 230 in the afternoon, after having eaten and drank all day.

    Will update again next week post surgery.

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    Update:

    Sly had molar planing number 7 yesterday.

    He was doing well when he came home, all things considered. He wasn't that active, but he never really is. He had some things to eat, and mostly laid in his bed resting.

    This morning, he doesn't want to eat. I'm sure his mouth is sore, but it IS distressing. He loves his morning slice of red pepper, and attacked it as soon as he got it. After a few minutes and a few bites, he abandoned it. I mixed up a batch of critical care, and he sat for a bit, slowly and methodically eating several mouthfuls. He didn't finish it.

    He's just kind of hiding underneath his wooden arch near his food bowl, kind of puffed up. He still seems a bit out of it. Last night I gave him an orange segment and he ate the whole thing. I've got a small bowl of pellets that have been moistened next to his regular pellet bowl, as he's liked those in the past when his mouth was sore.

    I think I may try some orange again, just to get some food into him.

    Edit:
    I did try a couple more small orange segments, and he has eaten both of them. He seems to only want very soft foods, understandably. Not sure why he isn't interested in the critical care.
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    Edit:

    He's eaten some very soft things. He ate the orange segments, and he ate half a slice of cucumber, the inside only. Wouldn't eat the dark green outer edge. He's eaten some alfalfa hay, and he ate a small slice of banana as well.

    He still seems rather out of it. It isn't normal for him to be this way 24 hours after surgery, but I also understand that each time he has the anesthetic it will take longer for the effects to wear off. I know his little body takes a hit every time he has it, so I'm hoping this lack of appetite is part and parcel of that and it will wear off soon.

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    You might ask the vet if he was under the anesthetic longer than usual, or if they gave more pain meds than they usually do. Sounds like he's still pretty zonked from it.

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    Re: Sly's Medical Thread

    I actually had a conversation with him this morning, I stopped in to pick up a new curved syringe in case it came down to force feeding him.

    Everything was normal and routine, nothing out of the ordinary than previous surgeries. Just in the last hour since I last posted, Sly has been up and around, and he's drank quite a fair bit. He IS a little unsteady, but as I type he's standing in his hay pile munching away.

    I do believe it's just taking longer to come out of the anesthetic this time. It's been about 24 hours now.

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