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    By being proactive with his dental care before his mouth and tongue are "torn up", he is able to recover more quickly and immediately eat. Alas, with each subsequent anesthesia, it is likely to take him longer to recover. You have to balance the need for the trims with the insult to him from the anesthesia. Happy that he is almost back to his rascal self!

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    Thank you so much, @spy9doc. You've been one of Sly' s biggest champions right from the get go, and we greatly appreciate your support!
    That was the idea behind the new 4 week checkup, to make sure it's done before it becomes an emergency. I do know that it'll likely become more frequent, unfortunately. Oddly enough, however, he really is back to normal self tonight. As we speak he's sitting at a pile of fresh greens, going back and forth for the odd drink. Doing very, very well.

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    Morning update:

    I have a very bright eyed and bushy tailed Sly piggie this morning! He was waiting in the corner for me when I woke up at 6:15 (usual time), ate a very generous slice of red pepper, and a large spoonful of critical care.
    He then went back into his cage, ate some hay and spent a good amount of time at his pellet bowl. Absolutely no signs of anesthesia left at all, I'm very surprised at how well he's come out of this round.

    I believe @spy9doc is correct in that this surgery wasn't in emergency territory, and there didn't appear to be much if any cuts or scrapes in his mouth (if he's in pain he binge drinks and he hasn't done any of that) so he's been able to resume a normal routine much, much quicker.

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    Yea, Sly! Sparky & Chip send their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spy9doc View Post
    Yea, Sly! Sparky & Chip send their best.
    Thank you to you, and Chip and Sparky! My fellas send back their wheeks and grumbles!

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    Update:

    Sly continues to do well, showing no signs of anesthesia or pain. His water consumption and appetite are normal, and strangely even seems a little happier and more active.

    Had a slightly distressing phone conversation with the vet yesterday afternoon. He told me that the front bottom molars are the ones that are getting overgrown, nothing wrong with the top ones. What's distressing me is that, Dr Ker told me that the molars that are the problem, are also slightly loose. He did say that it could be due to his age, and degeneration of the connective tissue.

    He did go on to say that there are NO signs of infection. His jaw is fine, and no indication whatsoever of gum disease or any other problem. Just that when touched with an instrument, they move ever so slightly.

    Just curious if anyone else may have encountered this, what it might mean and/or what their experiences might be, and what to expect for the future.

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    So happy to read that Sly has come through his latest round of planings ok. He's a little trooper, bless him <3

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    Thanks, @lisa325. I was really, really worried when he first came home because he seemed so much more out of it than usual, but I have the feeling he wasn't out of surgery as long this time as in times past. Indeed, only a few hours later he was SO much better.

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    Update:

    Weekly weigh ins are done. As expected, Sly dropped weight, but he dropped more than expected. I suspect that the weight loss started right after last Sunday's weigh in.

    Sly was 1225 grams last Sunday. There's always about a 20 grams or so difference between the vet's scale and mine. Dr Ker weighed him the morning of his surgery and his scale read 1225, which led me to believe Sly had already begun losing weight. This morning, he is at his lightest point ever, at 1189. So with the surgery factored in, he has lost 36 grams in one week.

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    Glad he is feeling better. Sorry he lost some weight. That is worrying about the loose teeth but at least the vet said no infection...

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    Quote Originally Posted by frotoandsam View Post
    Glad he is feeling better. Sorry he lost some weight. That is worrying about the loose teeth but at least the vet said no infection...
    At this time, no infection or sign of gum disease. He also made sure to mention that a month is a long time in the life of a guinea pig. A month to us is close to a year for them, so consequently when things happen with a piggie, they tend to happen fast. He's coming up on 6, so he is elderly.

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    Update:

    A new development in Sly's journey. Just tonight his bottom incisors seem to have started spreading out from the top down, spreading in a v shape. His top incisors are still angled, but the bottom ones seem to have split apart. There's only about a millimeter gap between them, I know when I saw his teeth this morning giving him his syringe of glucosamine they weren't like that. Not long before I saw it tonight he was pulling on the grids with his teeth after I closed him in his cage for cleaning.

    Just wondering if anyone has seen this before or may know what's going on.

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    20 minutes later I gave him his night time veggies. His bottom teeth were back to normal. Is it possible something somehow got wedged between his teeth? This morning I gave him his slice of red pepper they were still normal.

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    How strange! Of course I have no idea how something like that could have happened, but I'm really pleased he's back to normal :) <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisa325 View Post
    How strange! Of course I have no idea how something like that could have happened, but I'm really pleased he's back to normal :) <3
    He's lost a little more weight, but only 5 grams. He's only 9 days past surgery so I KIND OF expected it, but hoped not. Looking for a turnaround next Sunday.

    He's been SO HAPPY, though. Caught a few rusty wheeks out of him, and he's been running around making piggie noises, and playing Godzilla Pig. It's so nice to see, but I really want to put some weight on him.

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    I'm starting to feel like a broken record, folks. But five grams is NOT weight loss. It's less than the weight of ONE TEASPOON of water, and is easily accounted for by daily fluctuations in what they've eaten/drank/peed/pooped. You'll drive yourself, and the rest of us, nuts obsessing about five gram weight losses and gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpatters View Post
    I'm starting to feel like a broken record, folks. But five grams is NOT weight loss. It's less than the weight of ONE TEASPOON of water, and is easily accounted for by daily fluctuations in what they've eaten/drank/peed/pooped. You'll drive yourself, and the rest of us, nuts obsessing about five gram weight losses and gains.
    I know that, which is why I said ONLY 5 grams. I was actually going to post that he probably peed before I weighed him, but I guess I kind of felt that that was already understood. It's just that I'd rather him GAIN it, not lose it.

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    Update for those following Sly's journey:

    Sly continues to do well. We are just over a month from his last surgery. After his weight dropping to 1182 grams back on Sept 24th, as of this mornings' weigh in he's back up to his fairly usual 1220 grams. That number seems to have been a touchstone for him, as he's hovered somewhere around that mark since the middle of July. He's gone down as far as 1182, and been as high as 1243. I understand that this isn't a lot of weight, but Sly is SO slender now that I knew he had gained as soon as I picked him up this morning. I could feel a difference in him. I would rather that number increase instead of decrease, no matter how large or small because it all adds up.

    He's eating VERY well, although still has very little interest in hay. He eats quite a bit of his Oxbow pellets. He ate his entire bowl of veggies this afternoon, something he hasn't done in quite a while. He water consumption is also normal, he isn't binge drinking at all like he does when his mouth hurts.

    I am comfortable at the moment with where he is, however he did that funny little head twist when he was eating yesterday. Like something is caught in his mouth. He hasn't done that since before his last surgery, so I know his molars are getting long again. He has an appointment on the 30th of October, so I'm sure he's likely to have another planing that week.

    Other than that, he's just a sweet, happy pig. Same old Sly. :)

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    Poor little Sly, I feel so bad for him having to go through the planings all the time, but it's better than him suffering and struggling to eat. Happy to read that his weight is up and more stable.It seems if he could only start eating hay again his condition would be more manageable, and you would worry less. I wish him and you all the best always ❤️.

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    Thank you so much, Lisa. Sly appreciates your words of encouragement as much as I do. He does seem to tolerate the planings well, although he was a little slower coming out of the last one. I expected that, honestly. I think that's as much a testament to his vet, as it is to Sly's drive to live.

    I do believe the reason he won't eat his hay has to do with his teeth, rather than the other way around. I think the unwillingness to eat hay is a symptom, not the cause. He eats his timothy pellets no problem, and he'll eat alfalfa hay. Anything else he has no real interest in. He DOES occasionally eat his timothy hay, but nothing compared to what he used to and the hooligans eat far more hay than anything else.

    It is what it is, and as his vet says, at least this is a problem we can help him with. It's a manageable problem. He just deals with it like a champ.

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