It's 20" x 39". It's temporary until i get a bigger one.
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I don't have enough floor space, so i am getting two levels what sizes should they be. I also have 2 males.That is technically too small but if its only temporary then it should be okay. What size are you upgrading to? A 2x3 grid c and c is the min, based on 1-2 pigs, the 2 being females. How many pigs do you have? Male or female?
Yes, this exactly. And you are especially going to need to go bigger because you have two males. If you keep them in a tiny pet store cage, even with two levels, they WILL fight. Boars need at the BARE MINIMUM a 2x4 cage. And that's only if they get along super well. Most don't. Many people keep them comfortably in a 2x5, but bigger is always better if you can. I highly recommend a 2x5, and then you can add levels if you desire. L shape cages are often seen here, as they are more compact and fit against the corners of rooms well. I'm upgrading to a 2x6 L C&C, and my room is absolutely tiny. I had to take my fish tank down to make room! You might have to make some rearrangements, or even do what I did, go through the room and get rid of anything you don't need, and little pieces of furniture that can free up space. Whatever you can do to make sure your little guys have plenty of space to live comfortably.The main level of a cage is the only one that counts in dimension of the cage. Guinea pigs need the level space to be able to run. Built out, not up for guinea pig cages. If you don't have the floor space, perhaps get a stand for the cage or build an L-shaped cage and set it in the corner of the room. Either that or find a room that will accommodate an appropriately sized cage.
We're going to get a c&c 2x5, they DO get along well but not perfectly.Yes, this exactly. And you are especially going to need to go bigger because you have two males. If you keep them in a tiny pet store cage, even with two levels, they WILL fight. Boars need at the BARE MINIMUM a 2x4 cage. And that's only if they get along super well. Most don't. Many people keep them comfortably in a 2x5, but bigger is always better if you can. I highly recommend a 2x5, and then you can add levels if you desire. L shape cages are often seen here, as they are more compact and fit against the corners of rooms well. I'm upgrading to a 2x6 L C&C, and my room is absolutely tiny. I had to take my fish tank down to make room! You might have to make some rearrangements, or even do what I did, go through the room and get rid of anything you don't need, and little pieces of furniture that can free up space. Whatever you can do to make sure your little guys have plenty of space to live comfortably.
We're going to get a c&c 2x5, they DO get along well but not perfectly.
We only want to provide best for our boars, anyways! lol
A 2x4 would be pushing it. Remember, upper levels don't count. But I wonder if this is a different case since it is 2 2x4s. Can anyone help me out here? But depending how bonded your boars are, it may or may not work.
I'd do away with the loft and just make the cage itself larger. The more room on one level, the better.
Your cat? What does it have to do with it?
Thank you for your reply!Hi, Fantaziez' mom. Welcome to the forum.
I hope you're right that a 2x4 is big enough for two boars, but the experience of a LOT of guinea pig owners says that bigger than that is better.
Your cat may or may not be a problem. Guinea pigs are large enough that most cats don't see them as prey. GP babies, on the other hand, are a different story. They're small, and run around like mice, and definitely trigger a cat's prey drive. But a couple of pieces of closet shelving on top of the cage makes a great lid, and is totally cat proof.
But what I was asking about was what @Fantaziez meant by "I need a loft to keep our boars in there while my cat is." Something got left off there. And you definitely don't want to keep two adolescent boars penned up in a small loft for very long AT ALL, or they'll wind up in a big fight.
Thank you after much dilemma,Bigger is always better, and giving boars plenty of room to stay out of each other's face is also good. A 3x5 would be fantastic, but a 3x4 would be better than a 2x5.
My cage is made out of closet shelving. The disadvantage is that it's not as easy to remodel as grids are, but it's definitely sturdier. You could use closet shelving for the base and lid, and the walls out of grids. You put the shelves together with fairly heavy duty zip-ties, and they old just fine. Closet Maid sells stuff all over the world, but there may be a brand local to Australia. Just look in the closet organizing section of your local home improvement store.
You also might want to take a look at the Photo Galleries here (tab at the top of the page). The alternative cages section will have ideas for all sorts of cages.
If your cat doesn't pay any attention to the pigs now, it may not later. Our cat was very interested when he was a kitten, but he wanted to play, not eat! Now, at about two, he just gets in the cage and lies down. But he doesn't even do that much. I'd recommend caution at first, but you'll soon have an idea of whether he's looking for dinner or a playmate.