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    Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Not loudly but he is squeaking. He also is sitting and being all poofy and sad looking. I'm going to call the vet tomorrow and make an appointment. I just want to be sure I go in with all the right questions and information. I was reading on guinealynx and if I understand correctly I can expect: physical exam, X-rays and urine collection. I am nervous about the urine collection. Do they have a special collection pad or do they always direct draw it? I'm not sure what questions to ask. Do they always do X-rays to check for stones or do they treat for uti and only do X-rays if symptoms don't improve?

    I was also wondering, do you think this is because we stopped using fleece? We switched to paper (generic care fresh type) in July while we were on vacation and I've just kept using it. I scoop out the pee spots almost every day so he isn't sitting in wet bedding. I can get new fleece and switch back to fleece if that would help prevent future problems. I know diet plays a big part to so I will switch that up too. I got my shipment of kms pellets so that will help and I found reverse osmosis water for .25 a gallon. I'm just so worried about him. He's my sweetumwheatums.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I can't get him in till tomorrow morning. :(
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Hey @barbaramudge when my boy was doing that they did the whole lot they sedated him and did an x-ray and took a urine sample while he was sedated (so my boy didn't even know it was done and didn't feel a thing) and sent it off to be analysed. It will depend on how good/knowledgeable your vet as to whether they will do everything or take the wait and see and approach. But if they do the x-ray and find nothing then they will probably treat it as a UTI. If it is a UTI it could be the paper but I have only ever used fleece but if he is sitting in the one spot a lot it could be that. Hopefully someone else with a bit more experience can help you on that. I hope everything goes well for you at the vet, but it seems like you are going in with all the right questions and knowledge. Let us know how he goes. Good Luck!

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    It could be the bedding, it could be the diet, but it's probably his genetic make-up. Some pigs are just prone to stones, and others are not.

    And it may not be a stone, it may just be a bladder infection.

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I really hope it's just an infection. I can't stand the thought of stones and surgeries and reoccurrence. He's my special little guy. I bought some white fleece on the cheap from Walmart so I'm going to put him back on fleece. He's my boy that has the weird penis (maybe cauliflower willy?) so it really drags on the ground. I'm hoping the white will allow me to see exactly what his pee looks like and I can keep better track of it. I can't find my darn weight chart but I think he's lost a little weight. I'll keep ya posted on the vet visit. The gave me estimates for X-rays and urinalysis so I'm thinking the probably plan to just do it all.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Now there's some blood when he pees. I was getting the white fleece ready but I can see it on the paper bedding. Still eating and drinking though not as much hay as normal. I'm feeling a bit unglued now. Should I put the fleece in tonight or just let him be and change it before I put him back in tomorrow? I hate to stress him out more.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    i'd just leave him be, and change it when you normally do,

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    @bpatters I know I make you crazy but....he's going to alright isn't he? I know I'm a grown woman but I'm losing it here.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I wish I could tell you that he is, but we don't know that. Stones are awful. Some pigs pull through just fine, others don't. I just recently lost my Flourish to complications of stones, and I did everything I knew to do for her, and had a good vet as well.

    Chances are he'll be fine. You're going to the vet in the morning, right? He's not likely to lose enough blood to have problems from blood loss. It's just that he's uncomfortable. We'll hope that there's no stone blocking the urethra, and that the vet can get him straightened out tomorrow.

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I'm so sorry, I must have missed the post about Flourish. Yes, vet at 11:20 EST. He's still peeing so hopefully that's a good sign. Does blood always mean there's a stone?
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    No, it doesn't. It can mean bleeding from the kidney (unusual), or the bladder can be irritated from a stone or from sludge, or sludge or stones can have irritate the urethra.

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Ok. Thank you. They should give him something for the pain right? He cries every time he wees.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Yes, they should.

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Ok. Thank you @bpatters. I appreciate all your help.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    Colonel has two stones. A larger one in his bladder and a smaller one that has left the bladder. She said that if he was a girl it would be small enough to maybe pass through but that that isn't likely with a boar, which I knew. The soonest they can do surgery is Sept 3rd. She seemed to feel that he could wait till then. We of course will watch him closely for signs of a blockage. She gave me a large bottle of metcam to keep him comfortable. .15mls daily. I'm including his X-ray. Cost of surgery can range from 536$ to 850$. They expect it to be at the $536 end but they give you a range in case things get more extensive. For an additional $186 I can send the stone out to be analyzed. Since I'm not sure how I'm even going to pay for surgery, I won't be sending it out. I think I will just get him on a "stone pig" diet and hope for the best. Is there anything else you can think of that I should do or ask? I feel sick to my stomach already. I'm so scared for him. :(

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    September 3? That's criminal! Especially since one already seems to be in his urethra, and may be blocking urine. Not to mention god-awful painful.

    Is there another vet around that you'd trust to do the surgery?

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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I'm going to make some calls but the other place I know of is twice as expensive. They are down to only one guinea pig surgeon right now at the vet I went to. Should I call them and kinda argue about getting him in sooner?
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I would, or I'd look for somewhere that could do it sooner.

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    Ok. I'll make some calls.
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    Re: Colonel is squeaking when he pees

    I don't want to be discouraging, but if that stone is in the urethra, that's not a good sign. The urethra in males in much longer and less stretchy than in a female, and a stone can completely block the opening. That's a medical emergency. And surgery on the urethra doesn't usually have good results.

    What I've seen happen most often is that they try to force the stone back up into the bladder, using a catheter, and then remove it/them from the bladder. If the stone is close enough to the end of the urethra, they might be able to grab it and pull it out. That's fairly common in females, but doesn't usually work in males because the stone seldom gets that far down.

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