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    Continued soft stool

    My Guinea pig is a neutered male at two years old. He weighs 2.3 pounds and is house with two females. His behavior hasn't changed. But on and off for a few months he's had soft or clumped stool, no diarrhea. I've taken him to my vet and we have narrowed his diet and has also put him on a homemade probiotic. Prior to the vet I had tried Benne bac and but baths which seemed to help temporarily. He's putting him on a med for bacterial issues. I'm picking it up tonight and can give more info on it then. Does anyone have any suggestions as after this my vet and I are at a loss about this. Thanks is advanced! Also his name is chester. And I've owned him for about 6 months.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    He seems a bit young to have impacted cecal poops, but it's a possibility to consider. My older boar Snickers had it and it started out as an on and off thing, but after time it became a daily thing I had to help him with. It also just looked like soft clumpy poop or a ball of poop. He was much older though when his started.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    I'd cut down on or eliminate the veggies for a few days to see if that helps. What type of med is your vet putting him on? I'd be concerned that he might have some sort of parasite such as Giardia. Did your vet take a sample of his droppings to test for it?

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Ditto pinky. I'd take him off veggies altogether for several days and see if that helps. If it does, add them back, one at a time and 24-48 hours between each new one, until you find the culprit.

    If it doesn't help, I'd want a fecal exam to see what's going on in the gut. Probiotics are always good -- just give an hour or two after any medications.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    I'll have the medication after work and can share what it is when I get it :) I have tried cutting veggies but it showed absolutely no difference. His poop on average is slightly soft and tapered a bit but normal in size. But occasionally it will have two or three pooped formed together that remain in his anal sack for a bit. I do clean Jim regularly to prevent anyone's feet getting sore or his skin getting sore.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Cutting back, or cutting out? Cutting back won't tell you much, if anything. You have to cut them all out altogether, and then add back one at a time.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    I had completely cut veggies for him for a week, he was on a vitamin c supplement during this time, as he always is. I had originally lessened veggies down to half a cup and then I ended up cutting them out. Right now my vet wanted him on small amount of kale or plain green leaf. Nothing has shown any improvement or any signs of it worsening

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    The way you describe his stool is exactly what I've been dealing with in my 4 y.o. neutered boar.......whose name is Chester. BTW, neutered boars rarely become impacted.

    We literally have spent several hundred dollars in vet visits and treatment for him. We have seen four different exotic specialists in as many months. Apparently, the standard initial treatment is to take a cavy off veggies and do an elimination diet with adding one item back into the diet in attempt to isolate the causative factor. Well, apparently Chester doesn't know that there's a standard way that cavies should respond.......and he hasn't responded to anyone's recommended plan of care.

    Chester doesn't eat much hay nor pellets. The Vet wanted us to eliminate all veggies until we could figure out what the problem was. We fed Critical Care at least twice a day, 35cc or more with each feeding. We managed to keep him at a fairly stable weight, but the poops never firmed up. She wanted us to feed him a limited amount of Critical Care to force him to eat hay if he was hungry. Well, that didn't work......he would simply not eat, no matter if he was hungry. We tried giving just a small amount of veggies with his CC and he seemed to get better. She also prescribed a course of Orbax for him.........never changed anything.

    When he has loose stool, it causes the cage to absolutely reek! So, off we go to another Vet who wasn't much help either. Chester had begun to gnash his teeth which is often a sign of pain. I felt so helpless that in desperation, I gave him a dose of Metacam one evening and he seemed to settle down. The Vet had no problem prescribing Metacam for him, but had little else to offer.

    Now back to the original Vet who attempted to draw blood to see if there is some pathological process at work. She made the mistake in anesthetizing him to make the process easier. Well, that was a mistake because when you anesthetsize a cavy, his blood pressure drops and it's almost impossible to find a vein. I have great respect for this Vet, and was bitterly disappointed that she didn't seem to have anything else to offer, other than to start him on a course of Flagyl. No apparent change in his stool.

    Now off to the fourth vet who agreed with me that we should do a blood draw and a fecal test. The blood showed no abnormal findings except that his amylase (a pancreatic enzyme that digests starch) was sky high. It didn't seem to mean much because high amylase is often a symptom of pancreatitis.......which is rare in cavies. His stool showed a high yeast level for which she prescribed Nystatin.......and to eliminate all carbohydrates from his diet. His stool seemed to firm up and we thought we were on the road to recovery.

    At this point I should mention that every single one of these Vets had physically examined Chester and looked at his teeth with a speculum.

    Less than two weeks ago, he began to sink, lose more weight........and stop eating. He would pick up food and let it drop. So on a Saturday and in a panic, I went to the Vet again. This time we opted for x-rays and they revealed that his roots are growing in the wrong direction...down into his mandible (jaw bone) and will eventually cause him not to be able to eat. He also had malocclusion of the upper and lower teeth. The real culprit was that he had all these little spikes on his teeth (close to the gum) that were tearing into his tongue. The boy was anesthetized and some dental work done. He was still fearful of trying to eat until I put one of his favorite foods in front of him.....peppers. The smell of the pepper overcame his fear and he dove into it. Once he found that he could eat without pain, he became absolutely ravenous.

    We are now still feeding him Critical Care, sometimes three times a day, along with his salad. He's still not gaining weight, but at least we are maintaining. And, we still haven't eliminated the soft poops. Some days they are there, other days normal. He will need regular dental checkups for as long as he lives. How long he can comfortably live, we have no idea. We're just enjoying the time with him and will take it as it comes.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Thank for you sharing your story! I specifically had my vet check for malacussion and he is eating tons of hay as always and drinking plenty. I researched from Guinea lynx as well as personal friends and people with experience. Skinnypigs1 on YouTube has a good video on this.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Update: chester us on metronidazole . 15ml a day twice a day. We're keeping a close eye on him and if this doesn't work I'm going to suggest a stool sample and such

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy6056 View Post
    Update: chester us on metronidazole . 15ml a day twice a day. We're keeping a close eye on him and if this doesn't work I'm going to suggest a stool sample and such
    Keep us updated. We also had my Chester on metronidazole (Flagyl) for more than two weeks with little change. He now has loose stool again today and I'm at my wit's end to know what to do.

    BTW, didn't mean to hijack your thread! The symptoms you describe sound just like where we started. My intent was to share in case it helped you.

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    Oh. No I'm glad you shared!! Every little bit helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy6056 View Post
    Update: chester us on metronidazole . 15ml a day twice a day. We're keeping a close eye on him and if this doesn't work I'm going to suggest a stool sample and such
    If he has Giarda, your females also likely have it. Your vet should have analyzed his droppings in order to rule it out or confirm it. Your females will need to be treated or he'll be reinfected by them. It's possible the females aren't showing symptoms yet. I had 6 guinea pigs on metronidazole after one of mine was diagnosed with it.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    I'm not sure how long it would take for symptoms to develop, nor am I overly aware of that disease. But it's been on and off for months now and there has been no change in the girls droppings.

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Hey everyone! Flagyl was useless and now we're on reglan (wanted cisapride as recommended from friend but illegal in the United states) it'd a motility drug and he's on . 1ml 3x daily every 8hours. It's our first day but it already looks not any better and actually a little worse. There's no point in putting him through drawing blood. And we feel testing stool isn't going to help much as we highly doubt it's parasitic. Any other advice? If you know anyone with a similar case with any success please ask! Looking into bio sponge or stoll samples next. Have very little options and I want this fixed before I go to college

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Why is he on reglan? It speeds up passage of food through the intestines, which would cause even softer stools, not firmer? I would expect it to get worse instead of better. Cisapride would do the same thing -- one acts on one end of the intestines, the other on the other end.

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    The reason for this is because others have had success with cisapride when flagyl has failed. As he often becomes impacted we just wanted to make sure that. Things are moving along at a good pace and that I've had other friends who've had success with this, my vet and I were both willing to try it as we have very few options. Any other medication recommendations are always welcome tho!

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    He's had no diet change and is completely cut from veggies. He's on a vitamin c supplement, tons of Timothy, and nightly pellets

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    Flagyl and cisapride are two entirely differently classes of drugs. Any improvement someone may have seen on cisapride when flagyl didn't work would be entirely coincidental.

    Are these exotic vets you've been seeing?

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    Re: Continued soft stool

    One of my pigs, Max was having a similar problem and he's only about a year old. I had his teeth looked at and a stool sample taken. Everything looked fine. The vet suggested limiting his veggies and cutting things out, etc. We did all that with no improvement and a very cranky pig. When I was getting low on hay I decided to order a different brand since I had tried oxbow and kaytee from my local petstore and found it to be inconsistently fresh and quite dusty. I ended up getting Jojo's best freshcut Timothy hay from amazon. I have never seen that pig go after hay like that. My other pig seemed to eat whatever hay was around but Max never seemed to eat as much hay (though he was always ravenous for veggies). This new hay is very fresh and has long pieces with hardly any dust. Max DEVOURS it and his little poops look perfect.
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