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Amanda Branch
01-10-14, 10:41 pm
My husband and I have decided we are getting a midwest cage for our female guinea pigs. What are the pros and cons of this type of cage?

foggycreekcavy
01-10-14, 11:23 pm
I recommend doing a search here for Midwest Guinea Pig Habitat (search button in in the upper right corner). Lots of thread will come up.

MrWhistles
01-10-14, 11:41 pm
From what I've read and seen. The biggest issue is the cloth bottom. The next issue is it is slightly small. It is able the min square footage for 1-2 guinea pigs.

Amanda Branch
01-11-14, 01:04 am
I have a momma pig and 3 baby girls I'm putting in it. I think I need to go with a C&C cage. I have been comparing sizes and that seems more logical.

Traysea
01-11-14, 08:04 am
Definitely going to be too small for 4 full grown pigs. You will be cleaning it all the time and it will get stinky fast. I'd say the smallest you can go is at least a 2x5 (which will need at the minimum weekly cleaning) preferably a 2x6 or bigger if you have the space.

Inle_Rabbit
01-11-14, 08:45 am
I am also not a fan of the cloth bottoms.

MrWhistles
01-11-14, 11:38 am
Definitely going to be too small for 4 full grown pigs. You will be cleaning it all the time and it will get stinky fast. I'd say the smallest you can go is at least a 2x5 (which will need at the minimum weekly cleaning) preferably a 2x6 or bigger if you have the space.

I agree. Maybe even go 3x4 or larger so everyone isn't squished together.

T1ggerPigLuvur
01-11-14, 11:40 am
If you do get a Midwest cage, then I would recommend getting the coroplast base for the cage on the Guinea Pig Cages store HERE (http://www.guineapigcagesstore.com/midwest#.UtGBa-JHJrM), because the cloth bottoms can be a hassle to clean.

However, I think you are right. By the time that you buy that, you might as well consider making or buying a C&C cage. They are cheaper, more customizable, and you can make it bigger.

Amanda Branch
01-22-14, 11:51 am
I went with the Midwest cage since it was what my hubby would buy and we are expanding next week but my piggies seem terrified and all space. I have a cuddle cup in there and a cozy sack with the hay bag hanging on the side of the cage. Right now my 6 1/2 week old babies and momma are sharing since I do plan on expanding next week. I figure it's better than the store bought cages that I had. Anyways, is there anything I can do to help their transition easier?

lissie
01-22-14, 12:05 pm
Do they have any place to hide? You can drape towel or fleece over half the cage to make them feel more secure.

Are the babies all females?

Amanda Branch
01-22-14, 12:10 pm
Do they have any place to hide? You can drape towel or fleece over half the cage to make them feel more secure.

Are the babies all females?
Yes they are all female. I have had the cage in front of my dresser so I could put a fleece blanket in the drawers and drape it on half the cage but they still seem scared. It is making me so sad.

lissie
01-22-14, 12:26 pm
You could add fleece forest/tents and tunnels. See if they'll like them.

Tunnels:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/88718-Book-covers-for-bent-grids (no sew)
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/55152-XL-Bent-Grid-Tunnel (no sew)
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/43952-Making-a-cuddle-tunnel (sew)

Fleece forest:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/59489-Cage-Fleece-Forest
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/67935-Easy-Fleece-Forest

Fleece/Towel tent:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/toys/p21093-towel-tent.html
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/hidey-houses/p10459-fleece-tent.html

They might take a while to get used to their new cage.

Amanda Branch
01-22-14, 12:29 pm
You could add fleece forest/tents and tunnels. See if they'll like them.


Tunnels:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/88718-Book-covers-for-bent-grids (no sew)
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/55152-XL-Bent-Grid-Tunnel (no sew)
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/43952-Making-a-cuddle-tunnel (sew)

Fleece forest:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/59489-Cage-Fleece-Forest
http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/67935-Easy-Fleece-Forest

Fleece/Towel tent:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/toys/p21093-towel-tent.html
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/hidey-houses/p10459-fleece-tent.html[/QUOTE]
I just put in the tunnel and added another cozy sack. So now there is a tunnel, 2 cozy sacks, and a cuddle cup. (All fleece) I also still have half the cage covered. I will continue to watch them today and hopefully with time they will learn to love the space : )

Traysea
01-24-14, 06:39 am
Did you get the one with the lid? They are probably used to a more enclosed space. My piggie took a while to get used to a C and C cage but I promise they will love it once the transition is over. Also is this cage on the floor? They might be overwhelmed by being on the floor if they were used to being up higher before.

Take fleece blanket and cover up the whole back of the cage so that half the length is covered. Also you can put in a fleece forest, with so many pigs in the cage you will want to make it fairly big, probably across one whole short side of the cage. If you hang it a little before it touches the ground it won't get as dirty as fast.

I find tunnels to be really helpful as well. As rule baby piggies are pretty skittish anyway and momma has had lots of changes. Give them a couple of weeks to adjust. Also, when you offer them their veggies put it a little bit further out into the open so that they have some motivation to venture out. It took all my pigs weeks to months to become the pushy, spunky outgoing little beggars they are now.

Amanda Branch
01-24-14, 06:57 am
I didn't get a lid and yes the cage is in the floor. I have cozy sacks and tunnels in there. I put the veggies in the middle of the cage and they actually come out and eat them : ) Things are slowly getting better. I plan on making a fleece forest when I have some spare time. I love those things : )

bmdon
01-26-14, 01:08 am
If you do get a Midwest cage, then I would recommend getting the coroplast base for the cage on the Guinea Pig Cages store HERE (http://www.guineapigcagesstore.com/midwest#.UtGBa-JHJrM), because the cloth bottoms can be a hassle to clean.

However, I think you are right. By the time that you buy that, you might as well consider making or buying a C&C cage. They are cheaper, more customizable, and you can make it bigger.

I couldn't find a cheap C&C cages, the cheapest I found was about $70 and it was tiny...

LuvCavysLuvCats
01-26-14, 01:30 am
bmdon If you find storage cubes and corrugated plastic and build it yourself it is very cheap. I happen to live in an expensive area so my local sign shop had a pretty steep price on the corrugated plastic, it was $40 dollars for a sheet (8x4ft), usually it's cheaper than that. When all was said and done the whole cage costed me $75, which was the same price as a tiny store bought cage and I was able to make a 2x4 with a 1x2 hay loft. :)

You can find the storage grids at Bed, Bath, and Beyond, they usually have coupons for it too. I bought mine at Store Supply Warehouse online because they were the cheapest I could find and they priced it per grid so you could say exactly how many grids you wanted.
Corrogated plastic can be found at Lowes or Home Depot but the cheapest option is usually your local sign shop. You can also get the packaging tape and zip ties at Lowes or Home Depot. :)

lissie
01-26-14, 02:00 am
I couldn't find a cheap C&C cages, the cheapest I found was about $70 and it was tiny...

In my opinion, you can build C&C cage for a much better price per square foot than a Midwest Habitat cage.

See these places for grids (cubes), most of them you can order online and they will ship to the local store for free. You can then pick up from the store.

Sears:
http://www.sears.com/stor-floor-standing-6-cube-storage-unit/p-00913332000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

Kmart:
http://www.kmart.com/stor-floor-standing-6-cube-storage-unit/p-010W435219990001P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

Bed Bath & Beyond
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/Grid-Wire-Modular-Shelving-and-Storage-Cubes/1016719773?_requestid=338643

Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Whitmor-White-Wire-Storage-Cubes-Four-Cubes-Interlocked/5005200

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Whitmor-6071-1723-Storage-Cubes-White/dp/B000LRGV3W/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I16SQ7SVSPM9UW&colid=NG9JBN4Z38SK

DON'T GET CUBES FROM TARGET. They have different bar spacing and can cause deaths if guinea pigs get their heads stuck in the grids.

Coroplast:

Home Depot (check store inventory before you head there, and print out a copy of the page with you. Most Home Depot staff won't know what you're asking for when you say coroplast)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202771364?catalogId=10053

Sabic Polymershapes. This place is a plastic warehouse. Call the location near you for prices. Most people I've heard of got quoted between $10 - $20 for 4x8 ft sheet.
http://www.sabicpolymershapes.com/polyshapes/PShapes/branchlocator/branchus.jsp

Levenn
01-26-14, 06:22 am
I am pretty sure you can also get a TON of grids off of ebay as well...I had to buy grids from bed bath and beyond and it cost me 20 bucks for a box of 17 grids :x

Amanda Branch
01-26-14, 09:14 am
My husband found 2 tables in the basement that my cage will fit on even after the expansion!!! Piggies are getting more active now but mostly in the evening and at night. They tend to stay in the cozys during the day. Hopefully getting them off the floor they will be more comfy and come out and play more during the daylight hours too!!

Traysea
01-26-14, 09:54 am
I couldn't find a cheap C&C cages, the cheapest I found was about $70 and it was tiny...

Where are you located?

Traysea
01-26-14, 09:55 am
Don't you just love when that happens! Plus then it makes setting up storage underneath nice and easy.



My husband found 2 tables in the basement that my cage will fit on even after the expansion!!! Piggies are getting more active now but mostly in the evening and at night. They tend to stay in the cozys during the day. Hopefully getting them off the floor they will be more comfy and come out and play more during the daylight hours too!!

Amanda Branch
01-26-14, 10:06 am
Yes!!!!! Saves me money lol!!!!

bmdon
01-27-14, 01:36 pm
Where are you located?

I am Washington, so in the U.S.
I have done more research and it depends on where I go. I found the squares for around $20, not sure how much is in them, and I am still looking around for Corex!
If I am planning on making a 2x4 cage how much is that in feet or inches??

bmdon
01-27-14, 01:47 pm
This was so helpful and is going to make my search way easier! After replying to this post I looked around more and really decided I want to build my girls a C&C cage! :)
I know there are tutorials on youtube, but i have a question on how to cut and know the right sizes you need for the Corex. I want to build a 2x4, because I have two guinea pigs, and maybe make a few little ofts for each of them to maybe sleep in or something...
ANY SUGGESTIONS? :)

LuvCavysLuvCats
01-27-14, 04:15 pm
bmdon I have a 2x4 with a 1x2 loft and I only bought one sheet (they are usually 8x4 but double check) I had enough left over to make a ramp as well. So yeah one sheet is plenty for a 2x4 and a 1x2 loft. :) The measurements for a 2x4 (including the 6 inch walls) is 68" x 39".

Here is a link to a step by step on how to cut and put together the coroplast base. - http://www.guineapigcages.com/howto.htm

bmdon
01-27-14, 04:40 pm
Thank you so much! That is very helpful! :D

bmdon
01-27-14, 04:41 pm
That was very helpful! Thank you :D

daisy1cow
01-27-14, 07:52 pm
I am pretty sure you can also get a TON of grids off of ebay as well...I had to buy grids from bed bath and beyond and it cost me 20 bucks for a box of 17 grids :x

But 16 grids will build you a 2x6 with a grid left over for a tent covered with fleece for hours of fun or a hay rack. I bought a sheet of vinyl to put my c&c on, I've also used a shower curtain, but not as nice as the vinyl. WAY LESS than buying a store cage and TONS of room!!! We all love our C&C cages. I have three 2x5 each housing a bonded pair

Traysea
01-27-14, 09:43 pm
Keep in mind when we say 2x4 we do not mean 24" x 36" what we mean is 2 grids wide x 4 grids long, each grid is 14" and connectors add another 1/2" so when we say a 2x4 cage the outer dimensions are 30" x 60"

to get ideas on what supplies to use and what the size of cages are you can check out the cages on the guinea pig cage store: http://www.guineapigcagesstore.com/standard-guinea-pig-cages

To figure out how many grids you need first decide how you want to build your cage. Do you need a lid or a stand? Are you adding a loft or a patio? The 4 cube box of grids usually has something like 16-18 grids in them. If you look at the photo on the box it will show you what it builds then you can count the grids in the photo.
If you can't find grids you can probably order them from Walmart (you need the whitmor brand of grids with 9 squares across and 9 squares down on each grid) You can also get grids on amazon. Both places should have free shipping if you purchase a couple of boxes.

Amanda Branch
01-30-14, 09:43 am
Expanding my cage tomorrow!!!! Super excited!!!

Levenn
01-30-14, 10:15 am
I want to see pictures!

Amanda Branch
01-30-14, 11:12 am
I want to see pictures!

I will post one as soon as I have my whole cage complete. Should be next week : )

beachgurl_1988
01-30-14, 07:39 pm
I have had both-
Midwest Cage: It has to be a secure place to put it- a whole flat/level surface. I bought mine at a petstore and it was vastly overpriced compared to Amazons price. I don't mind the bottom- it's not as easy to clean as coroplast- but I have taken the whole bottom off and washed and dried it in the machines-so that's a plus. The ties are a pain in the tail to put on! I like the doors- but I had to ziptie them closed since the kids would open them unsupervised. I like how it does fold all up- if i were to store it I can fold it all up- I don't have to find a place for a big peice of coroplast to sit.

CC Cage: It is totally customizeable. So easy to add more or take away. I made my own stands and they were really sturdy when they were all ziptied together. It does take alot of time, planning and deciding when you make one- but it's easy to add a 'room' when you need to separate one from the others. Easy to hang stuff/put waterbottles up because of all the spaces.

I think if you are going to just have 2 pigs. Sure. Go with the midwest cage. But if you are going to keep more go for the CC.