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Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 09:01 pm
Hey, I have owned piggies for 4 years + and my older piggie Treenie has a hock infection. I have her on antibiotics and I have been monitoring her almost constantly. She is quite old for a pig and she has been dropping a bit of weight. She is such a sweetie and I'd hate to see her go like this. Any suggestions and advice for making her comfortable? I love her to bits and beyond. I realize that I should be prepared for the worst, yet I still hope for the best.

CavySpirit
12-09-12, 09:50 pm
Hey, I have owned piggies for 4 years + and my older piggie Treenie has a hock infection. I have her on antibiotics and I have been monitoring her almost constantly. She is quite old for a pig and she has been dropping a bit of weight. She is such a sweetie and I'd hate to see her go like this. Any suggestions and advice for making her comfortable? I love her to bits and beyond. I realize that I should be prepared for the worst, yet I still hope for the best.
By hock, what part of the foot or leg is the problem? What did the vet say? For bumblefoot, it helps to soak the infection a couple of times a day in a dilution of Chlorhexiderm. It's tricky to do, depending on where the infection is. Bumblefoot can be difficult to cure, depending on how far it's progressed.

Onetwo
12-09-12, 10:08 pm
4 Years is only middle age for GPs. The average is 7-9 years. Something is going. We might be able to walk you thorough it so that you can have more years with her... We need more info. Like what part? What antibiotics? Maybe a pic of the infection... any other info about her cage, her life, her diet etc... Would be helpful!

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:01 pm
No, I have owned piggies for 4 years. When I rescued Treenie she was 3 now she is about 6. Hock as in lower foot on her pad, like I said our vet has checked her out and he thinks an infection is most likely, so she has peanut butter antibiotics :). I will get a pic up tomorrow morning. Her cage is store-bought and bedding is critter care. Cleaned 2x weekly. She has a whole room for herself where I pick her up out of her cage and set her on the floor so she can have hoggy run time for 1-2 hours about 2-3 times a week. She eats piggie pellets, timothy hay, fresh fruits and veggies (celery, apples, and carrots) and because of her infection she has vitamin C supplements in her water. She is loved very much, and she likes being held, right now she is relaxing in her cage munching on her hay, and being VERY careful not to put weight on her foot. Her left hind pad is the problematic one.

CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:04 pm
I hope she gets better soon, I can't really offer much support on this as i've never treated it before :(

Just so you are aware though, water based Vitamin C is most often pointless (Unless the piggy drinks it within an hour) As soon as you expose the supplement to water and light, it starts breaking down very quickly. After about an hour or so, you're left with poor quality and nasty tasting water.
Don't waste your money and get Vitamin C tablets instead and crumble/rub it into the veg if you wanna supplement her :)
Although, if you are feeding her regular veg she will get more than her daily dose of Vit C - bell pepper is among the veggies that contain the highest amounts.

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:09 pm
Thank you! She drinks a lot of water so I put a small amount of water in her bottle, and she usually drinks it within 20-30 minutes. Then I fill it with room temp water. I also give her peppers, garden grown, just not as often, but I will be sure to pick some up. I think I calculated her age wrong as I am looking at her papers. She is about 7-8 years old. She is no baby any more.

Onetwo
12-09-12, 11:22 pm
You don't need vit c supplements if you are feeding her green bell peppers everyday and fresh good quality pellets. Yes 7-8 years sounds a lot better for her to be winding down. Store bought cages are way too small. I know you let her run around a bit every few days but she needs to be able to exercise on her own time too. Cubes and coroplast cages are really great and versatile and cheap! I'm not familiar with critter care bedding. Is that a pellet? A fiber like material? If its a hard material like a pellet that might be irritating to the foot. Have you thought of fleece bedding. I and many other GP owners here use fleece and its preferred by many...

O and don't forget we would LOVE to see a pic of your old gal! :)

CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:25 pm
You don't need vit c supplements if you are feeding her green bell peppers everyday and fresh good quality pellets. Yes 7-8 years sounds a lot better for her to be winding down. Store bought cages are way too small. I know you let her run around a bit every few days but she needs to be able to exercise on her own time too. Cubes and coroplast cages are really great and versatile and cheap! I'm not familiar with critter care bedding. Is that a pellet? A fiber like material? If its a hard material like a pellet that might be irritating to the foot. Have you thought of fleece bedding. I and many other GP owners here use fleece and its preferred by many...

O and don't forget we would LOVE to see a pic of your old gal! :)

CritterCare is processed stuff, but it's not hard. It's made from plant matter (Cellulose?).
It's like a pulp

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:31 pm
Okay, I will be getting pics of my girls and the babies on here ASAP. I have tried C&C cages, I know they work for a lot of people but they prove to be challenging for me to keep them in as we have a cat who would love some piggie pork chops. Their HUGE new hutch is in our garage being built right now, so that should be done fairly soon.

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:36 pm
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CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:40 pm
piggie pork chops lol

You can just put a roof on their C&C cage so the cat can't get in :) Should be fine though as long as the hutch is big enough.

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:40 pm
These are Penelope's baby boys. Romeo and Jerry! Romeo died a few weeks after us suspecting that he had some neurological issues. He had a seizure while I was away and died in my dads hands. Jerry has moved on to be a therapeutic pet, that comforts kids while they learn to read or if they just need a friend. We rescued Penelope thinking that she was 2-3 weeks old, her growth was stunted due to malnutrition and a few weeks later she became wider and wider, and while we were at a rodeo she popped! And out came Romeo and Jerry! Romeo is on the left and Jerry is on the right.

CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:42 pm
These are Penelope's baby boys. Romeo and Jerry! Romeo died a few weeks after us suspecting that he had some neurological issues. He had a seizure while I was away and died in my dads hands. Jerry has moved on to be a therapeutic pet, that comforts kids while they learn to read or if they just need a friend. We rescued Penelope thinking that she was 2-3 weeks old, her growth was stunted due to malnutrition and a few weeks later she became wider and wider, and while we were at a rodeo she popped! And out came Romeo and Jerry! Romeo is on the left and Jerry is on the right.

Oh well that's a real shame :( We have a currently pregnant pig as well!

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:46 pm
Haha, I have to admit even though Jerry went to the best home we could ever hope for is was very bitter sweet saying good bye. The little things are just so cute you don't want to ever let them go! And if there is any advice for her "time to shine" it would be that she knows how to handle things on her own, although checking in occasionally would probably be beneficial, in case momma hog has some troubles. ;)

CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:47 pm
lol some pigs are like that you know, but don't get too comfortable with it :)

Cavy Treenie
12-09-12, 11:53 pm
Yeah, well I don't think I will do it enough times to get comfortable with it! That litter was an accidental litter, I know that there are plenty of piggies right now wondering what they did to deserve to go to a place where all they can do is wait for a little kid to beg for them and then forget them in a week or two. I do not condone breeding. There simply aren't enough homes for the piggie population as it is.

CourtArtanis
12-09-12, 11:57 pm
Oh no, I mean don't get comfortable with letting the piggies take care of themselves. lol

Cavy Treenie
12-10-12, 12:00 am
Haha. Well tried it once. Thats enough for me! :)

Inle_Rabbit
12-10-12, 07:32 am
Poor piggy! I have had to deal with 2 infected foot issues and they take forever to heal! My Buddy Pig just recovered from an infected front foot caused by a bite from his ex-cage mate. The infection abscessed and took almost 2 months to completely heal and Buddy is a young pig, just a year old! When I adopted my Ben Pig off of craig's list he came to me with a slight infection and irritated feet. His pads were bright red, peeling and puffy that took almost 3 months to heal completely but he pulled through just fine.

Just keep at it, keep in contact with the vet letting them know if anything changes, and give the piggy some pro-biotics to help keep her healthy while she takes the anti-biotics. Buddy had 4 treatments of anti-biotics for his foot infection so it is important to keep the gut moving and the piggy feeling good enough to eat.

Cavy Treenie
12-10-12, 11:09 am
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This is my girl! (1 out of 3) :) She is the oldest at around 6-7 years.
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This is of her foot favouring and of the infected foot. Poor girl. :(

Cavy Treenie
12-26-12, 11:26 pm
Hey, my guinea pig Treenie is about 6-7 years old, she has had (or still has) a nasty hock infection. She was getting a ton better, so we stopped giving her medicine since she seemed to be cured. But then she started getting worse, much worse. She is not putting weight on either of her hind legs and tonight when I was holding her I discovered a painful lump immediately behind her shoulder blades. It is small, but it is still there and it is painful. She has dropped a lot of weight, yet she still eats and drinks. I need a second opinon and I'm not sure where to turn.

foggycreekcavy
12-27-12, 12:04 am
I merged your two threads about her together, so we can have all the information in one place.

foggycreekcavy
12-27-12, 12:09 am
How long was she on the antibiotic? Which one was she on?

Even though she's eating and drinking, she's not eating enough. Sounds like you will need to syringe feed her.

By second opinion, do you mean another vet? Whether you take her back to your previous vet or find another one, she does need to see a veterinarian. The vet will figure out what the lump is and the treatment for it. And also why she's not using her legs.

Cavy Treenie
12-27-12, 12:20 am
She was on antibiotic for about 2 weeks and I have considered sryinge feeding her, we decieded that oxbow critical care would be best, we will need to order it so it might take a while. Also she is in a 2x3 C&C cage now so she has more room to move (if she feels up to it). I have found a small animal vet that is about an hour away, so she will visit that hospital hopefully soon.

Kellyvs1013
12-27-12, 01:57 am
4 Years is only middle age for GPs. The average is 7-9 years

you mean 5-7 years.

RodentCuddles
12-27-12, 02:09 am
you mean 5-7 years.

No, 7-9 years is the average. Quite a few piggies now days are living to around 10 years, so 5 years is middle aged. (;

Kellyvs1013
12-27-12, 02:34 pm
No, 7-9 years is the average. Quite a few piggies now days are living to around 10 years, so 5 years is middle aged. (;
Nope

MissJean
12-27-12, 02:47 pm
No, 7-9 years is the average. Quite a few piggies now days are living to around 10 years, so 5 years is middle aged. (;

Yeah, I'm seeing so many pigs nowadays live to 9. The work guinea pig communities like this are doing is surely raising the average lifespan. I wonder if it's still too soon to call, though. Curious as to how the head honchos on this forum feel about it!

Cavy Treenie
01-09-13, 09:06 am
Treenie has been suffering with her feet again recently. I moved her to a 2x3 C&C in hopes of that helping her some, but she is still sore. Now I am starting to suspect that both her back feet are starting to bother her. We had her into the vet and they gave her Baytril. It helped for a while, then got worse. While she was off meds she started using both her feet individually instead of "bunny hopping" around on both of them. Now she declined again and I am not sure what more I can do for her. The meds are no help at all and the vets are stumped. She is 6-7 years old and her feet are quite swollen.

foggycreekcavy
01-09-13, 10:03 am
Are you still using the critter care bedding? Perhaps try some fleece?

Cavy Treenie
01-09-13, 10:07 am
Nope, already ahead there, she is on fleece. I even made her a tie blanket (of course made of fleece). She has her cozy cup that she basically hangs out in, so she is set for fleecy things.

foggycreekcavy
01-09-13, 02:44 pm
Has the vet considered heart problems? It can cause swelling, I believe.

Onetwo
01-09-13, 03:31 pm
The worlds oldest guinea pig was 16 years 10.5 months old! So I'd say 7-9 years is a fair estimation! That would be compared to the average life span of a human is between 78 and 82 years old and then the worlds oldest would be 160! Haha

Cavy Treenie
01-09-13, 04:32 pm
No we haven't moved into heart problems yet. *Update*
When I opened Treenies door to let her out, she isn't using her left front paw either. I need help. I just don't know what to do for her. :'(

Cavy Treenie
01-12-13, 01:24 pm
Good news and not so good news. We just got back from taking miss Treenie to a cavy savvy vet in Brookings. He said that her condition is from her environment......Uhhhh not too sure on that one but I'll ignore that for the moment. Good news is, she got really great medicine and special cream for her feet. Bad news is that the infection is a nasty one that is not seen too often, but we are willing to do anything for her. My parents are great enough to see that all pets need veterinarian attention, as I see a lot of parents of younger piggie owners do not value the life of something so small. We have her on fleece with a layer of towels underneath. I am hoping with her new medicine and lots of TLC that she will get better. The vet was very nice and laid back. He was older with TONS of experience handling piggies. The medicine he gave us is poisonous to humans though :(. My nerves were on their end by the time we got there with no help of the weather. He was also on the radio a while back and a lady called in to see of she should leave a light on for the dog when she went to work and he said "Well dogs can't read" lol! I like him and will be definately be bringing her back to him if ( God forbid) she should happen to fall ill again. He had never heard of a C&C cage.......hmmm?

MissJean
01-12-13, 01:53 pm
What's the medicine called?

Cavy Treenie
01-12-13, 02:17 pm
Chloramphenicol

Cavy Treenie
01-12-13, 05:31 pm
Chloramphenicol. Does it make her tummy upset? Treenie is always usually snacking so her not eating is a but of a concern.

foggycreekcavy
01-12-13, 10:01 pm
The medicine he gave us is poisonous to humans though

Chloramphenicol is not poisonous to humans--it can cause side effects in some people. I imagine any amount you got on you from giving it to a guinea pig wouldn't harm you, but of course it's always best to be safe when using any drug and wash thoroughly afterwards.

So it sounds like she has bumble foot? Some pigs can develop it from a poor environment, but not always. Have you read http://www.guinealynx.info/pododermatitis.html ?

Cavy Treenie
01-14-13, 09:04 am
He said it was not bumblefoot and that he doesn't like to name infections, just treat them, since it was a nasty one he wanted to give her something that will work fairly quickly to keep it from spreading. The man who discovered that it could cause your body to stop producing red blood cells was using it by the quart to treat sheep, so I am aware that a little drop will not affect me. But I wear gloves when handling any piggie medicine. We figured out that gutting a slice of yellow pepper (her favorite) and drying it out then putting her medicine in there works best. The pepper absorbs the medicine and masks the flavor. We give her a slice of regular pepper after that to keep her guessing in case she finds out our little secret. :)

Cavy Treenie
01-14-13, 09:07 am
He also said bumble foot is common with wire bottom cages (which I DESPISE) and most commonly found in birds like quail. I have her on fleece and he recommended putting her back on critter care. But I don't think it has anything to do with her environment. I spot clean daily and change everything every week. He also hadn't heard of C&C cages, so I don't think he had ever heard of putting them on fleece.

aeiou
01-14-13, 09:35 pm
How is she doing?