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Trish

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Hi all,

After going through every step possible to introduce a friend for George, he just wouldn't stop the aggression. I know that he wasn't treated well by his previous owner, so not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Anyway, my questions. George is in a 2x4 C&C cage. I was considering adopting two females and put them in a separate (for obvious reasons) cage above (or below) George's.

Is this something that works? Will George flip out when they go into heat? Will they be distressed that they can't get to each other?

Any suggestions or advice from others, especially those who have tried this or have a situation like this now, is GREATLY appreciated.

Will just having other guinea pigs to talk to, but not physically interact with, be a good thing or a bad thing for my Georgie?

Thanks everybody :)

Trish
 

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Maybe you could get a couple of boys for the other cage? Then he could have neighbors to smell and talk to without the possibility of accidental pregnancies. I think girls probably would bother your single guy, especially since he's so aggressive (probably full of hormones).
 

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We have a stacked cage setup, it's two 2x4 levels on the bottom for the boys and a two level 2x4 on the top for the girls. From what I can tell the boys don't pay any attention to the girls, unless the crazy ladies start chasing eachother and shaking the building! But before we had the girls we had another boar who we couldn't get to get along with anybody, he just preferred to be alone. But he really came out of his shell towards me and my boyfriend once he was in the new cage above the boys and not next door. I had made his loft area totally closed in fleece forest, and he spent all his time up there napping and jumping around like a youngster!
I hope you Georgie likes his new neighbors but if for some reason he doesn't he might be one of those rare pigs that gets along alright without company. But I'm sure just having the others near by will help.
 

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Maybe you could get a couple of boys for the other cage? Then he could have neighbors to smell and talk to without the possibility of accidental pregnancies. I think girls probably would bother your single guy, especially since he's so aggressive (probably full of hormones).

My only concern with getting more boys is the smell. The cage is in my bedroom because that is where I spend all of my time when I am home. George's "male odor" isn't terrible, but when you get close to the cage, you can definitely smell it (he is on fleece that I spot clean 3+ times per day and completely change at least once a week). I was afraid that three boys would be much more noticeable.

We have a stacked cage setup, it's two 2x4 levels on the bottom for the boys and a two level 2x4 on the top for the girls. From what I can tell the boys don't pay any attention to the girls, unless the crazy ladies start chasing eachother and shaking the building! But before we had the girls we had another boar who we couldn't get to get along with anybody, he just preferred to be alone. But he really came out of his shell towards me and my boyfriend once he was in the new cage above the boys and not next door. I had made his loft area totally closed in fleece forest, and he spent all his time up there napping and jumping around like a youngster!
I hope you Georgie likes his new neighbors but if for some reason he doesn't he might be one of those rare pigs that gets along alright without company. But I'm sure just having the others near by will help.

I'm really glad to hear that someone had this situation and it worked. :) Thank you so much!

Trish
 

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I only have boars but I have two stacked cages. They do fine and really pay no attention to the other guinea pigs unless they are weeking for veggies. If one pig thinks there are veggies on the way they all start thinking that too. =D
 

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Could you get him neutered and introduce him to the girls?
 

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Could you get him neutered and introduce him to the girls?

Hmmm, I never thought of that. Would neutering help with his aggression or are neutered boys generally not aggressive with girls?

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Neutering won't change his aggression, piggies aren't like cats/dogs that way.
 

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I have two 2x4 stacked cages and one has two males on the lower level. They have no clue there are girls around. Here's a photo of one of them:

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Hmmm, I never thought of that. Would neutering help with his aggression or are neutered boys generally not aggressive with girls?

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Neutering does not change his behavior. Some boars who cannot get along with other boars are able to be paired with sows after they are neutered.
 

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Neutering won't change his aggression, piggies aren't like cats/dogs that way.

Neutering or spaying cats/or dogs doesn't do anything to change their behavior either. The only thing it MAY change is marking. But it MIGHT change that. A friend of mine is still dealing with marking even years after her dog has been neutered.


OP, Have you considering expanding your cage? Do you have the space to do that? Maybe George got so used to his current cage that having another roommate suddenly makes it feel small to him. Lastly, you cleaned his toys/hidys and cage right? To make sure that his scent isn't on everything.
 

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Hmmm, I never thought of that. Would neutering help with his aggression or are neutered boys generally not aggressive with girls?

Trish
Boys are generally not aggressive (overly persistent sometimes, yes, neutered or not) with girls - but you'd need to have him neutered so that he could live with your girls unless they are spayed. It generally won't alter aggressive behavior like it does with dogs and cats, so I'd not recommend neutering him for the purpose of living with another male - if he can't now, he won't likely be able to after the surgery, either.

There are some males that just don't like other males and won't live peacefully with them no matter what you do. I have two guys now who live peacefully and happily in a split 2x8 - each has 2x4. They get genuinely upset and are distraught when the other isn't in his side or is having problems, but they can't live together without nasty bloodshed and fighting. There really are some pigs who don't like other pigs, though that is not typical, by far.

I've had many males and females sharing room in the same area in stacked cages and generally never had any issues with the guys fighting when the girls were in heat. It depends largely on the pig, but it's a chance I'd recommend taking because it's unlikely it'll be a problem, based on my experience.
 
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