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Alexander
11-27-11, 03:36 am
Hi everybody and their adorable piggies^^
well..my problem is my parents keep complaining all day is i keep 2 piggies,the cage will be too big too fit into the house..
so,my question is..if i keep 1 piggy at home,can i use a mirror to be like the 2nd piggy??
i know we should keep 2 piggies to keep the piggies each other company..
so..if i should not keep 1 piggy and use a mirror..
i will think another way or not to keep any piggies at all until my house is bigger or i move to a bigger house...
thanks in advance^_<

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 03:45 am
A mirror won't help at all. If you imagine never interacting with humans again, would a mirror work as a replacement? No of course not. Guinea pigs are highly social animals just like us humans, and should always be kept with it's own kind. No mirror or human can ever replace that.

Are you sure you can't move things around to fit a proper C&C cage? The cages can be built in many shapes, such as an L shape to fit in corners/around something. Even if you don't adopt a second pig, the current one also need the proper space with a at least a 2x3 minimum.

Alexander
11-27-11, 04:03 am
ya,i already measured the house...
and the worst part is..
the most empty space that my mom will let me have is only a cage for 1 piggy...
then..can i have 2 piggies in the cage but have a lot of floor time for them??

Alexander
11-27-11, 04:06 am
but still..tanks for the reply HannibalLecter^^

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 04:13 am
Floor time won't replace the proper cage space, but is important until you figure out how to arrange that. Don't get another pig if you don't have the space for one.

Believe me, I've had to squeeeeeeze in my 2x5, and move every single piece of furniture around. Can't say my mother was in any way approving of it, but I payed for it & it's this responsibility of the pigs welfare you take on by bringing them into our home. Research it, show your mother all the health benifits of a proper sized cage & ease her into it. Or as for the cage space & grids for christmas? :)

pandaloki
11-27-11, 04:14 am
I don't have room too, I honestly keep a 1x4 (cubes) cage with a 1x2 second floor, it's still too small for two pigs, so the whole day I give them floor time. The only time they're locked in a cage is when other people are in the house and when it's bed time :)

Alexander
11-27-11, 04:49 am
well HannibalLecter (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/members/hanniballecter.html),i haved done the researched and told my mum,and now i have asked her again and she's now thinking about it~
pandaloki (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/members/pandaloki.html) ,that's a great idea and my family and dog can watch them running about instead of watching them suffer because of me

grace&piggies
11-27-11, 04:54 am
There is always the option of multiple levels.
Explain to your mother that by having the appropriate amount of cage space, you are lowering the possibility of future health complications which leads to vet bills. By having a larger cage, it is also easier to keep it clean, therefore lowering any unpleasant piggy smells. Healthier, happier, cleaner pigs.

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 04:58 am
That's great! Once you manage to plant the seed they usually aren't as difficult to convince. ;) Just let her think about it for a while before you bring it up again.

Your pig isn't suffering, you are making a big effort to improve the quality of life & health. Until you figure it out the pig will be fine with extra floor time. Just make sure to keep your pig's safe from your dog, as even the calmest dog has a hunting instinct with running smaller animals.

Alexander
11-27-11, 05:01 am
well...i'm now thinking a way of having a cage that has a lot of levels.
my mum told me the area i could have,but not the height of the cage..
i'm wondering..can i have the ground floor is 2 x 2 and the second floor is 1 x 2?

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 05:02 am
With multiple levels, the base space is what's important & it still has to meet the recommended size, ramps will take away quite a lot of that space & the other levels are not counted.

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 05:13 am
But if a 2x2 or even 2x2 is larger than the inner measurement of your current cage, it's an improvement. You can build it as a temporary expansion to the cage you have. Once you have a C&C in place, your mother might be more interested in expanding it.

Other benefits for both you and your pig that your mother might like, is that a larger cage stays cleaner much longer & often only requires spot cleaning daily, and a full clean once a week.

Alexander
11-27-11, 05:23 am
but we here don't have C&C cages and even we have it here,it is SUPER RARE!!

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 05:35 am
If you live in the US, there are quite a few sites online where you can get cheap grids. You could get cheap or free coroplast from sign stores, they can even help you score it.
Type in your location here to see if there are any local stores why carry grids & coroplast:
Cubes (http://www.guineapigzone.com/supplies/cubes)
Coroplast Sources (http://www.guineapigzone.com/supplies/coroplast-listings)

Also take a look in the photo gallery - Alternative cages:
Alternative Cages - Guinea Pig Cage Photos (http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=512)

Grids don't even exist in my country, I really don't understand as they are so functional. Had to have it shipped in from the UK. Payed more than anyone EVER should for a sheet of plastic & a few squares.

Alexander
11-27-11, 05:40 am
erm...
what are grids???

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 05:43 am
Those cubes/squares most of us build the cage with. They are sometimes called grids in stores. Coroplast/correx/corotherm is the plastic used as the base of the cage.

If the store is wondering what the heck you are asking for, use a different name.

CavyMama
11-27-11, 05:44 am
I don't have room too, I honestly keep a 1x4 (cubes) cage with a 1x2 second floor, it's still too small for two pigs, so the whole day I give them floor time. The only time they're locked in a cage is when other people are in the house and when it's bed time :)

A 1X4 cage is too small for ONE pig much less two. Having a second floor doesn't add to the dimensions of the cage.

CavyMama
11-27-11, 05:46 am
well...i'm now thinking a way of having a cage that has a lot of levels.
my mum told me the area i could have,but not the height of the cage..
i'm wondering..can i have the ground floor is 2 x 2 and the second floor is 1 x 2?

No, a 2X2 is too small for one pig even with an upper level. Upper levels don't count toward dimensions of the cage.

grace&piggies
11-27-11, 05:48 am
It is sometimes called "chloroflute" and resembles a plastic version of corrugated cardboard.

Alexander
11-27-11, 05:49 am
o....
ok..
i will try to get a bigger space for my piggies~

Alexander
11-27-11, 05:52 am
thanks HannibalLecter (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/members/hanniballecter.html) and grace&piggies (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/members/grace-and-piggies.html) for helping
sorry for the inconvenience caused..

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 06:05 am
There's no inconvenience at all. It's a forum made to discuss & answer those questions.
All of us started out where you are, where there's so incredibly much information to take in it feels quite daunting at first. You are doing everything right by researching it. Your pig is lucky to have such a dedicated owner where so many others are not.

pinky
11-27-11, 07:14 am
There are guinea pigs that prefer to be a solitary guinea pig. They don't get along with others and if you pair them with one, they will fight and draw blood. On the other hand, they like to be with people. If you mom will only allow you to get one, look for a single that wants to be alone. Just make sure you give it a LOT of attention and floor time. You still need to have an adequate sized cage for one.

bpatters
11-27-11, 07:22 am
grace, I believe coroplast is called corflute in Australia. The correct spelling may help if someone is searching online.

Alexander
11-27-11, 07:49 am
Floor time won't replace the proper cage space, but is important until you figure out how to arrange that. Don't get another pig if you don't have the space for one.

Believe me, I've had to squeeeeeeze in my 2x5, and move every single piece of furniture around. Can't say my mother was in any way approving of it, but I payed for it & it's this responsibility of the pigs welfare you take on by bringing them into our home. Research it, show your mother all the health benifits of a proper sized cage & ease her into it. Or as for the cage space & grids for christmas? :)
hey...is the 2x5 in inches or meter?

Alexander
11-27-11, 07:50 am
A mirror won't help at all. If you imagine never interacting with humans again, would a mirror work as a replacement? No of course not. Guinea pigs are highly social animals just like us humans, and should always be kept with it's own kind. No mirror or human can ever replace that.

Are you sure you can't move things around to fit a proper C&C cage? The cages can be built in many shapes, such as an L shape to fit in corners/around something. Even if you don't adopt a second pig, the current one also need the proper space with a at least a 2x3 minimum.

is the 2x3 in meter or inches?

HannibalLecter
11-27-11, 09:53 am
Gosh no. It's in grids/cubes. One cube measures approx 35.5cm/14". :)

spy9doc
11-27-11, 10:03 am
A 2x3 is referring to the number of grids, and as HL says, each grid is approximately 14" square. It's just shorthand for a C&C cage or similar enclosure

pandaloki
11-27-11, 10:06 am
I know, but they do get the whole living room the whole day, the cage is only for them to stay in at night or when we have visitors.

Alexander
11-27-11, 10:11 am
o...
then the cage is BIG!!