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Judypie
09-19-11, 05:03 am
Hi I am new to Rats but I am quickly learning how wonderful they are. I went to pick up my daughter from her friends and saw they had a ton of cages full of animals. Sugar gliders, one Guinea Pig, hedge hog, a bearded dragon, one nasty monitor lizard (big one) and a cage full of rats.
I saw the rats were very friendly and I asked about them. Well I was upset to learn they were dinner for the lizard. I rescued 2 of them. I wanted more but I couldn't. (Now I wish I would have taken maybe 4 of them.)
Well I am going to give them a lovely home now. here is what I built them out of a coffee table I found out by the trash down the street.

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OllieandFriends
09-19-11, 05:22 am
They're adorable and your cage looks amazing! :) I think it's great what you did, resucing those rats, even if you could just save two it's more then what others would do. It's sad that their using them as food, do they feed them to the lizrad live? :eye-poppi

Judypie
09-19-11, 05:59 am
I didn't ask details about how they feed the lizard. I didn't want to know :(

skinnyguineaus
09-19-11, 06:24 am
Awesome cage for a rat! I converted a kitchen cupboard this Summer :) I love how it turned out.
Now I have ideas for my coffee table. My husband wont like that. LOL
NICE JOB!

kathlaaron
09-19-11, 06:53 am
What a darling little home for them ! :o I don't know anything about rats, other than I have heard and read that they are usually very intelligent, affectionate, curious, engaging animals. I have also heard they chew through everything !

skinnyguineaus
09-19-11, 07:33 am
Hi I am new to Rats but I am quickly learning how wonderful they are. I went to pick up my daughter from her friends and saw they had a ton of cages full of animals. Sugar gliders, one Guinea Pig, hedge hog, a bearded dragon, one nasty monitor lizard (big one) and a cage full of rats.

I am thinking about getting a couple hairless girls. How strong is their urine, poop odor? Can they be litter trained or does it work like GP (lucky catch under food bowl)?
Is the food expensive? How about life span?
Sorry for all the questions ;)

trexgorawrrrrr
09-19-11, 04:35 pm
I am thinking about getting a couple hairless girls. How strong is their urine, poop odor? Can they be litter trained or does it work like GP (lucky catch under food bowl)?
Is the food expensive? How about life span?
Sorry for all the questions ;)

These questions can be easily looked up..
Urine/Poop oder I always say is in the eye of the beholder so to speak... I had rats, and did not notice any urine or poop odor, but that could also be because I cleaned/changed their cage, hammocks, and things frequently. I'm not sure if you know that guinea pigs can be litter trained, but they can to an extent... As far as rats go, they can be litter trained to an extent also, it's individual. I was able to get my rats to poo in a certian area, but they peed where they slept. The food costs aren't as expensive as guinea pigs. Guinea pigs require hay and veggies on top of pellets where as rats need a quality lab block. You can research those. The average lifespan of a rat is about 2 years.

skinnyguineaus
09-19-11, 04:39 pm
Thank you! Research is always an option. I was opting to research with an owner :) Somehow seems more real that way. Thanks again

Inle_Rabbit
09-19-11, 04:47 pm
Rats are so awesome! I had girl rats when I was in high school. They seemed to only smell when they were on their cycle which is every two weeks. They are very smart and very social little things. I remember after one rat had passed, I bought a friend for the remaining rat but the friend was still young and could fit through the cage bars. One night that rat crawled out of the cage, out of the laundry room, went down the hall, through the living room, through the dinning room, into the kitchen and picked up a piece of dog food and brought it all the way back to her cage, but she couldn't climb back into the cage (it was on a base) so she spent all night going from the laundry room to the kitchen bring dog food one piece at a time leaving it under the cage base. In the morning when I went to check on them the little rat came up to me and stood on her legs looking at me like, "Well, put me back in my cage!" Under her cage she had probably acquired a cup or so of dog food over the course of the night.

skinnyguineaus
09-19-11, 05:34 pm
I love your story!!! I really want 2 girls... I'm learning about the hairless now. I LOVE my hairless Skinny bunch and would love to add a couple of Rats to my hairless family :)

kathlaaron
09-19-11, 11:10 pm
Oh my gosh-Inle_Rabbit, what an adorable story about your little girl rat! Thanks for sharing that with us ! lol

suzilovespiggie
09-19-11, 11:37 pm
Rats are wonderful little creatures. I or my daughter has had rats most of her growing up and some of her adult life. They are loving, very intelligent and a pleasure to have.
A good site for rats is www.ratsrule.com (http://www.ratsrule.com) At this site is an awesome diet for the rats. They need more than just lab blocks. They enjoy a wide varitey of foods, fresh and otherwise. Mine would not eat hay.

As far as skinny rats: my daughter was given 1. He was bought at a petstore. The lady who bought them named them Harry and Curly. Curly died early and she gave my daughter Harry.
Harry was sick also. No matter what we did Harry died too. His skin was a big problem also.
It got scratched alot and we had to be very careful with it. As cute as they are, Skinnys are a special needs animals and need alot of care due to their skin.

There are rat rescues around if you look hard enough. The Humane Society has them as "pocket pets".

Judypie
09-20-11, 03:48 am
Thanks to all of you ! I am very pleased with them and I feel I am going to get a lot of enjoyment from them. I already cant stop smiling just being in the same room with them. I love letting them out to run in my office. I had to (RAT PROOF) gosh they can get in to everything.

kathlaaron
09-20-11, 04:01 am
I have considered getting rats for a long time now, way before we got guinea pigs. I have really really wanted one, too ! The only reason I have never gotten one is because I can't get past their long skinless tail ! I can't help it...it just grosses me out.

I sure wish I could get past it though..for other than that, I KNOW I would thoroughly enjoy having one (well knowing me, I most likely would rescue/adopt two). You what's funny ? I love mice and lizards too...go figure !

suzilovespiggie
09-20-11, 04:14 am
Many don't like rats because of the tail. Rats are smart. You can teach them tricks. They like piggies will do just about anything for treats. My daughters treats, were cheetos. They would do anything for a cheeto. She had ferrets also. One loved broccolii. She would raid the fridge for broccolli. (We would leave some out so she could get it, when we opened the fridge)

My daughter would love to have rats now. She so loved her rats. They would cuddle with her. Her husband is not an animal man so she just has a rescued dog.
The only drawback, is they can get tumors easy and only live an average 3 years.

Judypie
09-20-11, 07:02 am
I think the tail to a rat is like a tail to a monkey and is used for so many things. I know when they are reaching out they use it for balance and to help hold on. It does not feel gross and actually its not the primary thing about them since you wouldn't want to pick them up by the tail anymore than we would like being picked up by our heads.
I'm just trying to say the tail may not be pretty but it is as useful to them as hands. The cuteness I get from them out ways any other feelings about the tail. Again I am very new to them, but I am so attached already :)

Henrysmommy
09-20-11, 07:23 am
Was the guinea pig they had a pet? :(

Judypie
09-20-11, 07:40 am
Yes it was but sadly it was in an all wire cage. I saw no hay or anything comfy. It did not look sic and was chipper and talking to us and the girl fed him and gave some hay to him while I was there so despite what i thought was not good , the guinea pig looked as if he was doing just fine and acted happy.
In fact all the animals looked quite well and the cages were clean... I just wish they didn't have that big lizard and that the adorable Rats were not on the menu.. Everything has to eat i guess but how can they say they love some of the rats and still feed the lizard.. I don't know I guess.

skinnyguineaus
09-20-11, 03:23 pm
I have considered getting rats for a long time now, way before we got guinea pigs. I have really really wanted one, too ! The only reason I have never gotten one is because I can't get past their long skinless tail ! I can't help it...it just grosses me out.

I sure wish I could get past it though..for other than that, I KNOW I would thoroughly enjoy having one (well knowing me, I most likely would rescue/adopt two). You what's funny ? I love mice and lizards too...go figure !

Haha... I haven't rescued a couple because I'm still grossed out by the tail too! Yesterday I went to a rescue near by and just held a girl and each time the tail touched me unexpectedly I kind of freaked :) I'm desensitizing myself... It's a process!

skinnyguineaus
09-20-11, 03:25 pm
The short life span is an issue too... I get way way attached :( 3 years goes by SO fast!

kathlaaron
09-20-11, 03:46 pm
Yeah, that is the one fact that really bothers me, over everything else. A 3 year life span ? I DO get so very attached to my animals, that I just don't know if my heart could bear it- losing them so quickly, for 3 years is not a very long life-span. :weepy:

Judypie
09-26-11, 08:54 pm
OKAY, I just adopted an older boy. I couldn't resist when they said he was just dumped. He is handicapped with only one eye as well but he was so sweet I couldn't resist. He came with a small cage and I just cant wait to build him his own place. I am being very cautious right now because he is taking food threw the bars very fast and well not nicely, could it be he didnt get treats before? I have not held him yet because I had to go to work and I think it was good he could just check out his new surroundings for the day. In the morning I am going to try and see how friendly he is. He was very nice with my hands in the cage fixing his water bottle and when I put my fingers to the wire he doesn't try to bite. I will put up photos in the morning. Anybody have suggestions how slowly to introduce myself to be trusted with an older male? And if he is in the cage next to the girls is it going to drive him crazy? Will he be upset if he smells the girls on me? I guess I have a few too many questions lol.. I have been reading lots of information on them. Sometimes we still cant get enough answers.
Thanks.

Judypie
09-27-11, 04:05 am
The photos of the new guy , see his one eye... I have no story on how this happened of course since his previous owner just dumped him outside in this little cage. I think I may take him to the vet just to make sure about his eye and see if they can estimate his Age for me. This morning the girls were going nuts when I let them out to play , trying to get to his cage which I have up high. I don't want them getting to close and risk and biting threw the bars since I have no idea how that would go. Then I put the girls away and moved him to my desk while I did my emails and I talked to him the whole time and put my hand near the bars to let him sniff me. I suppose I was to afraid to try and let him out just yet and Tomorrow I have off work and could prepare for what ever may happen. I would hate to open the cage and he runs away. I would like to make sure he cant get lost first. My barriers are barly tall enough to keep the girls in the room during play time. I would appreciate any comments of advise. I will continue to research it myself on line.
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suzilovespiggie
09-28-11, 12:58 am
He looks like such a nice boy. Thank you for taking him.
A suggestion: When you have time. Take the cage into the bathroom. Sit the cage down with the door open. You sit next to the cage and talk to him. Be close enough when he comes out he has to explore you. maybe come out on your lap. Go slow and see if he will let you pet him. Watch his reaction to your hand. His reactions may give you a clue to see if he was abused. Give him a treat, all the while talking softly to him. Let his reactions guide you to how much you can pet him. He may be totally tame.

Doing this in the bathroom he can't run far or hide far.

Good luck and keep us posted.

kathlaaron
09-28-11, 01:27 am
Wow Suzi, you give such GREAT advice !:)

Judypie...I love how you rescued him and how you took him with you to your computer desk and "talked sweetness" to him...you seem to really have a way with animals !:heart: I think it is only being smart and wise to pick a day when you have off, to allow him out for your first "real" encounter with one another. ( for you never really know what could happen, and being prepared is GOOD)

Good luck to you and I too, look forward to hearing how your time tomorrow goes !

skinnyguineaus
09-28-11, 04:49 am
15699[/ATTACH]15700 Awww what a chubby he is! I am a sucker for the underdog. Very nice of you to adopt him. Hope he warms up to you soon :)

Judypie
09-28-11, 09:42 am
Well it went very well I think this morning. I have my office Rat proofed for the girls already so I just put his cage in the middle of the room and opened the door. I sat there a while and let him come out by himself just letting him sniff me. I really wanted to get his cage cleaned so I put my hands under him and as I moved him to the side he squeaked as if to say he was scared but did not try to bite me. As qickly as I could with out scaring him I got the stupid shavings out of there. I heard the cedar and pine shavings are bad for Rats and I am using a thick towel with fleece sewn on it just like I do for my Guinea pigs. I will see how this works. So far he seams to not mind it at all and is sleeping on it right now.
I will do more with him in my lap this evening. He seamed to enjoy the petting and never once tried to bite or act like it. My girl rats appeared jealous and I am going to have to make enough time for seperate love as to not get them together. I dont need any babies :)

Judypie
09-29-11, 06:37 am
Strange behavior: This morning I fed him his breakfast: Debbie’s Homemade Rat Diet (http://www.ratfanclub.org/diet.html), some Cilantro, Green pepper, and a few cooked Pinto Beans in the breakfast dish. I just looked in his cage and was going to put some extra food in his Day bowel and saw he placed all the Pinto Beans in the Day bowel with the Lab blocks. and a few Poops. What do you make of this?? is this a message he hates the Lab blocks now and the Pinto Beans .. LOL

suzilovespiggie
09-29-11, 10:33 pm
Rats like to save some food for later. They will hoard and sometimes have several spots to put their goodies. When you clean out their cage always save and put back some of their saved treasures.

Rats will litter train very easy. I see from your picture, he is in a store bought cage. Not sure if you would have room to put in a corner litter pan. Rats can be trained to go in the pan.
My daughter had a rat mansion. It was 4 stories tall. The bottom had the litter pans. she hung cloth hammocks on every other story. The rats loved them. Slept in them, stored their goodies in them. She had 4 rats. Sometimes all 4 would be in one hammock sleeping on each other. They love soft cloth, towels to cuddle in.
Glad he is doing so well. I miss the rats. Would love to have more one day.

I still have that rat mansionand the huge ferrett cage. I have meant to donate them.

Judypie
09-30-11, 03:23 am
Yes he is in a small store bought cage. This cage came with him at adoption time. I planed to make the 2 girl rats I have, a newer bigger cage and he will go in the coffee table one I built for the girls.
I can clearly see what you are saying about the hiding of snacks for latter. I did eventually see him eating the pinto beans. (however not the lab blocks) I am not worried about that since the rat diet molasses mix is a huge hit.
I am hoping that since he has been in this small cage for (I don't even know how long), that he will enjoy the bigger cage and wont have any trouble climbing

suzilovespiggie
09-30-11, 03:42 am
He will know how to climb. Rats like piggies love friends. Once he gets very tame with you.
Give him lots of love. He will be glad for the company. I don't know if I gave it to you before, www.ratsrule.com (http://www.ratsrule.com) is a great site for all things rats.
Did you give him a name? He is such a pretty/handsome guy.

P.S. I use to live in Carpenterville. 1966-1969 Went to Dundee High School before it merged with Crown.

Jaclyn Rey
11-21-11, 12:39 pm
neat!! rats ! :/

Judypie
11-22-11, 04:20 am
Well I havent updated this in a while. I did build the new cage and they all love it. The girls get the whole left side and the top right and Pinto has the bottom right. They can see each other threw a window I put in and can sniff each other too but they cant break in to make any babies :)
I also had quite the break threw with Pinto, he is the most loving, sweet, Rat.. so I am putting up the video I made of him and I. I know I sound really silly in the video but he really is my good boy and I love him.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gikG7PFBllU

OllieandFriends
11-22-11, 06:23 am
Aww! That's an awesome cage! lol And you talk to your rats like I talk to my piggies! :p

Lyonmom
11-22-11, 08:28 am
Cute and very creative!