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csete
10-26-02, 06:19 pm
The C&C cages are excellent. In my design I decided to use bent cubes and coroplast to build the ramp, tunnel and skyway. I used stick-on bathtub no-slip to make it so the guineas could climb the ramp. I have some pictures online at community.webshots.com/album/53452725aqLeGB (http://community.webshots.com/album/53452725aqLeGB)

peachygrl
10-26-02, 07:38 pm
That is such an awesome, creative cage! My boys just have a simple 2x4 C&C cage with a corner hay rack. How many cubes did you use total? I would love to add a second level to my boys' house but I was unsure about how to engineer the ramps - your design looks perfect!

Great job!
:)

csete
10-27-02, 11:14 am
Assuming I counted correctly, there are 33 cube grids in the design. The "hidden" ones are underneath the upper levels (4), the one that acts as a tunnel under the ramp (to make the angle easier for the piggers to climb) and the 4 that make up the ramp and skyway. I don't know how many cable ties I put in (a lot to make sure it stays together). It used a complete 4' x 8' sheet of coroplast plus another one half that size. I have some scraps leftover, but not a lot.

semcavylover
10-28-02, 04:43 pm
The mansion is so adorable! I absolutely love it! How were you able to bend the cubes for the ramp and skyway? You are very crafty, I would love to live where your boys are, ha ha ha!! Wonderful job!

csete
10-28-02, 08:21 pm
Thanks.

Bending the cubes just took some muscle and patience... That was probably the toughest part of the ramp/skyway. They are bent into thirds, which is fairly easy to pick out if you look at the cubes. The outside metal is pretty tough, but once you get it started, you can *carefully* bend it against something soft (I used the carpet on the floor and my thumbs where I wanted the bend).

semcavylover
10-29-02, 11:21 am
I am going to try out my craftiness (ha ha ha) and make my 2x4 like your boys' mansion!!! Does your cage fit on a table just like the regular 2x4 cage or do you have it on cubes? I am just so excited, your pigs look so happy, and the cage looks like so much fun. You did an absolutely wonderful job!!! Thank you for sharing!!!

Nibblet8
11-01-02, 06:43 am
LOVE IT!

Nibblet8
11-01-02, 02:09 pm
I am a big fat copy cat and I don't care who knows it! :)

<img src="http://members.rogers.com/pigsinspace/newramp.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

I plan to upgrade to a 2X4 with two upper levels and a skyway. Just like yours!

<img src="http://members.rogers.com/pigsinspace/richandlianne.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

csete
11-02-02, 12:17 pm
I'm glad to hear that others like my design. I was proud of it before, but I'm thrilled that others like it.

I've made one minor change that I think others should probably do for the safety of their little friends. The whole thing is very strong with the exception of the "junction" of the upper floor(s). I recently reinforced that junction with some cable ties to make sure that the whole thing wouldn't come apart. With those in place, the whole thing seems plenty secure even to handle the boys when they start popcorning like little maniacs.

Enjoy.

csete
11-02-02, 12:19 pm
I'm glad to hear that others like my design. I was proud of it before, but I'm thrilled that others like it.

I've made one minor change that I think others should probably do for the safety of their little friends. The whole thing is very strong with the exception of the "junction" of the upper floor(s). I recently reinforced that junction with some cable ties to make sure that the whole thing wouldn't come apart. With those in place, the whole thing seems plenty secure even to handle the boys when they start popcorning like little maniacs.

Enjoy.

Zeusaqua
11-13-02, 10:51 am
Wow! That is just wonderful!

menovalee
11-13-02, 12:24 pm
Wow! That is a GREAT cage! I am impressed and inspired! Is the cage stable, or is it top heavy? I am a little worried that a two level cage would make it easier to tip over. Is yours resting on the floor, or a table, or what? You are so creative!

Zeusaqua
11-13-02, 03:19 pm
What did you use for footing on the ramp and bridge?

csete
11-21-02, 07:15 pm
To answer a couple of questions. The two upper-level sections are very stable. That was my original concern as well, but I'm very particular and it is very stable for my guys. In the end, that is why I went with two small upper levels rather than trying to stretch it out and make one that was too large.

I'm not sure about the question about "footing". If the question is how I made the ramp so they could climb it without slipping, I used bathtub stick on no-stick things. They provide plenty of grip for the guys. I also added the little bridge/tunnel under the ramp so that the angle wasn't so steep. I didn't do anything special on the skyway, as the bent cubes provide walls so the guys can't fall off.

The bent cube design really provides a nice level of safety to keep the guys from getting hurt when they decide to fun around the house at full speed.

Hope that helps... If not, keep asking questions.

semcavylover
11-26-02, 11:38 am
What do you have the cage on top of?

csete
11-28-02, 03:38 pm
We had a an extra table around and the cage is sitting on top of that. Thankfully, the table had 2 extra leaves, so it was big enough to put the whole works on top.

semcavylover
11-29-02, 02:36 pm
That was a great idea, thank you very much for your reply. We went to work this weekend, thank goodness for Thanksgiving break, and the cage looks absolutely wonderful. We made a 2x6 with a 2x2 only on one end. We wanted to put one on the other end, and make the skyway but we weren't as crafty as we were hoping to be. Anyway, it looks really good and we were able to put it up off the floor using rubbermaid bins! Thanks again for sharing your wonderful cage, you did a great job!!!

dynamo23
12-03-02, 03:37 am
First of all, your cage looks great!

We made the mistake of buying a pet store cage, and although it is a 2-floor one and is larger than usual pet-smart cages, I am going to make a 2x4 C&C-design cage tomorrow.

I really like your design, and will most likely try to create something like it. The only concern/question I have is how did you make the "entry way" holes in the metal grids? Did you simply cut the metal? If so, did you have to file/grind it down to get rid of a sharp edge?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. TIA

csete
12-03-02, 01:14 pm
Good question dynamo. I used some heavy wire cutters to cut out the openings and then a file to file down the sharp points I couldn't get with the cutters. I attached them with a large number of plastic wire zip-locks. I check the attachment every so often to make sure my little guys haven't decided to chew into their support stucture!

semcavylover
12-04-02, 05:14 pm
After filing down the sharp edges, I cut the plastic report binders down to size and stuck them on with a few zip ties. I too check it every once in a while to make sure everything is secure.

lyliecarter
12-07-02, 08:15 pm
You're cage looks great! I was just wondering how you clean the top two sections on the second level.

Susan

csete
12-09-02, 11:56 am
Cleaning the cage is definitely the worst part of this whole thing... For multiple reasons. My full cleaning process takes about 30-45 minutes once a week. Here's the way that I've settled on doing it... There may be better ways, but this works pretty well for me.

1) Scoop as much bedding out as I possibly can. I use a plastic bucket and a gardening shovel to try to get the bedding out as quickly as possible.

2) Vacumn out the remaining bedding, dust, etc.

3) Clean the whole thing with spray on bathroom/kitchen cleaner and paper towels.

4) Let it air out good... The fumes might bug the little guys.

5) Refill with bedding.

I do this once a week. Every two days, I do a spot cleaning where I remove and replace the bad spots in the bedding.

Briana D
12-09-02, 06:47 pm
I would avoid using bathroom/kitchen cleaner as it can be toxic to guinea pigs regardless of if the odor is still there.

A lot of people use half vinegar and half water in a spray water. The vinegar works great as breaking up any urine stains and the water tames the smell down.

For your pigs safety I would stop using bathroom/kitchen cleaner.

csete
12-10-02, 01:35 pm
Does the vinegar have an antibacterial quality? I want to make sure that the cage is really clean when I'm done.

Briana D
12-10-02, 03:02 pm
I don't know if it has an antibacterial quality. I understand you want the cage to be really clean but using hazardous house hold cleaners isn't the way to go.

lyliecarter
12-11-02, 02:29 am
I spot check every day and do a complete change every week. There's more chances of nasty bacteria and germs the longer it sits in the cage. I'm lucky that my two boars tend to pee in the corners. So I scoop out the damp litter every day and replace it, either by moving older, clean litter to the corners, or replacing it with fresh. I also scoop out as much 'jellybeans' as I can. Then during the weekend I can take my time and scrub with a vinegar/water solution.

Susan

csete
12-11-02, 10:14 am
Briana,

If people believe that the household cleaners are a health risk for the pigs, I will certainly not be using them anymore. I only inquire about the antibacterial qualities of the vinegar solution to see if there are any other safe options available that I should be considering.

Briana D
12-11-02, 02:18 pm
I'm not to sure of its antibacterial qualities. Teresa might have more of any idea. Maybe she'll stumble upon this thread.

semcavylover
12-12-02, 01:43 pm
When cleaning my cages, I use a disinfectant that is commonly used at my local vet and kennel. This way I know it is safe for the little kids. I have also been told by my vet that you can use a heavily diluted bleach mixture. One tablespoon of bleach to a gallon of water. This will definately get rid of any bad bacteria that may be thriving in the piggies' cage. Good Luck!

markenmarkers
12-14-02, 05:24 pm
I'm new to this site and want to know how much it costed you to build this cage? I also made the mistake of buying a store bought cage. I was thinking of expanding it and mking a sky way from the second level of the pigs current cage. I think thy will love it.:rolleyes:


Thanx, Mark

csete
12-15-02, 03:32 pm
I suppose it depends a bit on where you can find the cubes and coroplast. In our case, we found the coroplast at a local sign place for about $20 for a 4x8 sheet. We spent about $30 on coroplast. We used Target cubes and ordered extra connectors for about another $30. So, approximately $60.

chrisnlisa
12-19-02, 10:02 am
I spent $25 on lumber for the platform, as it measures 58" x 44" square using 3/8" plywood and 2'x4' framing and legs. Another $40 on 2 boxes of cubes from Target and $25 on a 4'x8' sheet of coroplast. I need another half sheet of coroplast to finish it off yet though.

In the end i'll have 2 cages with approx. 11SF each with both having a 1x2 cube upper level. 3 males in one, 3 females in the other. I'll have pics of it when completed this weekend. I'm limited on space in the room where i keep my piggies, but this should work nicely. Cleaning the upper one level may be tough as it is difficult to reach but i devised a way last night to make it easier.

bebegrl7
02-16-03, 12:26 pm
wow that is such a neat cage!!!!today im going to kmart to get mroe grids and i want to make one like yours...right now i have a 2x3 cage i wanna make 2 top levels..1x1 and 2x1...how did u conect the skyway and ramp to the upper levels?

2steps
02-17-03, 05:25 am
I love you cage! The ramp and bridge are great :D
I have a three storey cc cage.

:)

CavySpirit
02-20-03, 10:21 am
Yes, vinegar is a powerful antibacterial agent.

From forest.fireshui.com/clean...negar.html (http://forest.fireshui.com/cleaning/vinegar.html)

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><strong>Cleaning With Vinegar</strong>

Vinegar is a mainstay of the old folk recipes for cleaning, and with good reason. The vim of the vinegar is that it kills bacteria, mold, and germs.

Numerous studies show that a 5% solution of vinegar—such as you can buy in the supermarket—kills 99 percent of bacteria, 82 percent of mold, and 80 percent of germs (viruses). It is common knowledge in the industry that vinegar is powerfully antibacterial.

Just like antibiotics, common disinfectants found in sponges and household sprays may contribute to drug resistant bacteria, according to researchers of drug resistance at Tufts New England Medical Center. Furthermore, many commercial disinfectants are ineffective to begin with, just like antibiotics.

<strong>Uses</strong>

Keep a clean spray bottle filled with straight 5 percent vinegar in your kitchen near your cutting board, and in your bathroom, and use them for cleaning. It's helpful to spray the vinegar on our cutting board before going to bed at night, and don't even rinse, but let it set overnight. The smell of vinegar dissipates within a few hours.

Straight vinegar is also great for cleaning the toilet rim. Just spray it on and wipe off.

Mix with water, and you have a great window and glass cleaner. Vinegar can be used on porcelain, countertops, and tile.

Add vinegar to the final rinse in your washing machine to eliminate residues. (Never mix vinegar and bleach!)

Vinegar also removes mildew and stains. Cleans glass, grout, fireplaces.

<strong>All Purpose Cleaner</strong>

50 mL baking soda
250 mL ammonia
125 mL white vinegar
4 L warm water

<strong>Drain Opener</strong>

250 mL baking soda
250 mL salt
125 mL white vinegar
1 kettle boiling water

Pour first 3 ingredients down drain and leave for about 15 minutes. Then pour down the boiling water.

HugEmLots
02-24-03, 08:45 pm
regarding this beautiful cage w/ two levels, or other two level cages, do you find that the piggies use both levels?

I have 4 females and one male. I am about to build a CC cage. I may house the boar in an adjacent area to the ladies.
Thanks, Jody:lol:

2steps
02-25-03, 03:15 am
My pigs use both levels of the cage and often run round the bottom, up the ramp, run a lap of the top level and then back down the ramp :rolleyes:

HugEmLots
02-28-03, 06:08 am
Thanks, I am off to build my version of this cage today. I hope it is big enough for 4 piggies. Either way, it will be bigger than where they are living right now and w/ CC I can always try something different if I have to.
Jody:D

bizzybbb
03-22-03, 08:07 pm
I love the "guinea pig mansion"! Did you have to cut the grids where the skyway attaches at each end? If so, how did you smooth out the snipped grid to make it safe for the piggies? Is it hard to clean? Are your piggies hard to catch out of that rambling space to take them out of the cage for floor time or cuddle time? How much bedding do you use, and what kind?