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05-11-08, 03:25 pm
Hi there!

My sisters have 2 guinea pigs, living together.

One of the guinea pigs is not doing too well, her name is Flower.

Flower has a lot of bald spots, but no visible fleas. Her hair is falling out in large bunches when you brush/pet her. Flower's skin seems dry and flaky. She doesn't seem to itch, but we're not sure.

Please help - any advice would be great.

We are going to the vet on Monday.

Haley0489
05-11-08, 03:28 pm
Have you read GuineaLynx page on hair loss?
Guinea Lynx :: Hair Loss (http://www.guinealynx.info/hairloss.html)

Ly&Pigs
05-11-08, 05:00 pm
You need to go to the vet. The pig either has mites (not visible to the naked eye) or a fungal infection.

Just don't let the vet do a skin scraping because it often gives false results and is very painful for the pig.

rabbitsncavyluv
05-11-08, 05:45 pm
guinea pigs rarely get fleas. Mites are more common and you cannot see them. They live under the skin. But either way, ditto Ly.

bamby71994
05-11-08, 05:51 pm
Make sure you seprate the two guinea pigs! Just incase!

Ly&Pigs
05-11-08, 06:12 pm
Make sure you seprate the two guinea pigs! Just incase!

It's a bit late to separate now. The other could get them just the same as she's already been with the other far too long.

You do need to treat both though if it's mites otherwise flower will end up getting them back.

buttons
05-11-08, 09:29 pm
Ok, I'll keep that in mind - so I'll bring both guinea pigs to the vet.

What is the medicine that the vet would prescribe... I haven't been to this vet before & want to make sure everything will be ok...

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05-11-08, 09:35 pm
Thanks Haley - I just took a look at guinea lynx.

Looking at the pictures & comparing, I'm guessing Flower has a fungal infection - should I still treat both when I go to the vet?

Ly&Pigs
05-11-08, 10:41 pm
It may or may not be a fungal infection, the vet will be able to tell. So yes, take them both and if it's mites they will get treated with ivermectin. Fungal treatments will depend on what type of fungus.

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05-11-08, 10:51 pm
I'll give updates as soon as possible. Thank you everyone for your great advice!

Leaflyn
05-12-08, 10:56 am
What kind will they be treated for if it's a fungal infection. I heard that creams are a no-no.

Ly&Pigs
05-12-08, 12:19 pm
There are shampoos such as nizoral and malaseb that can be used to treat fungal infections and there are also a couple of creams that are safe to use such as miconazole and clotrimazole. Then there are oral treatments that can be given.

HowietheGreat
05-12-08, 06:48 pm
Is the pig a teddy?

buttons
05-13-08, 11:04 pm
No, neither of the guinea pigs are teddies, HowietheGreat...
one is short hair and the other a mixed of long hair...


Anyways the vet will get results in a few days. She suspects they have mites.

buttons
05-14-08, 06:03 pm
The vet DID do a skin scraping - I wasn't there...even though I told my sisters & highlighted it on a paper that it shouldn't be done.
Anyways, now we are waiting for results, the vet as I said, thinks Flower has mites.

So that would mean that Pumpkin, Flower's "roommate" / friend would need to get a dose for mites as well, right?

Ly&Pigs
05-14-08, 06:10 pm
Yes, any pigs you currently have need to be treated. Otherwise the mites can spread back and forth.

GuineaAddict
05-15-08, 12:03 am
I know this is a bit off topic, but I was down in Kentucky visiting an aunt and I got to visit a few places that sold Ivermectin. I wanted to see if what I was looking at was the right thing to get. I haven't been able to find any that goes on the skin (is there a kind) so with the oral how do I know how much to give my guinea?

http://www.1800petmeds.com/images/products/420/10768_420.jpg

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05-15-08, 10:47 pm
Hmm...I'm not sure GuineaAddict...I'm sure someone one this site would know.

*Thanks L&Y, I'll make sure of treating both.

Updates coming as soon as we get some...

Ly&Pigs
05-15-08, 11:37 pm
Thanks L&YThat would be just Ly without the & in the middle, lol.

GuineaAddict, yes that horsepaste is fine to use. Just use the instructions on guinealynx to prepare it properly.

buttons
05-16-08, 04:20 pm
Oops...was late...haha.

Hopefully updates will come within the 10 days...

buttons
05-22-08, 10:38 pm
Ok, so Flower might have ringworm AND definitely has a fungus.

We are giving her a medicine every day for 21 days, orally.

We also have a special soap for us when we handle her because ringworm can pass on to humans.

Have any of you had ringworm with guinea pigs before? What did the vet do for you?

I just want the best and I'm not sure if Flower is getting the right medication.

Flower and her roommate Pumpkin are split up right now.

They both seem rather lonely, do you have any toy ideas for them??

thanks

ellenvega
05-23-08, 10:53 am
What kind of medication is she on? Miconazole (Monistat) is ok for the fungus. According to GuineaLynx, oral kitten Program (from the vet only) is good for the ringworm.

Be sure to wash thoroughly after handling them.

buttons
05-23-08, 06:08 pm
Well...the medication on the bag/sticker says Griseofulvin 50mg/ml per ml....?

On the tube with the medication it says BD Vacutainer Serum...

I haven't heard of these, yet I haven't had a sick guinea pig before...

We only got one medication, should I ask for that oral kitten program from the vet for the ringworm??

ellenvega
05-23-08, 06:36 pm
The Griseofulvin is used to treat ringworm, but it's an older drug and can be harsher on a pig's system than Program (especially their livers and kidneys). I would try and get the Program if you can. You can actually get kitten Program online, at reputable sites such as Drsfostersmith.com
Another helpful link on fungus:
Guinea Lynx :: Fungus (http://www.guinealynx.info/fungus.html)

A ringworm thread from GL:
Guinea Lynx :: Topic - Ringworm (http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1192294&highlight=program+dosage#1192294)

another thread this one with dosage information:
Guinea Lynx :: Topic - Shelter pigs w/ringworm (http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76653#76653)

If you decide to stick with the Griseofulvin monitor the pig VERY closely for signs of intolerance, (lethargy, loss of appetite, etc) and discontinue immediately if it occurs.

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05-25-08, 10:21 pm
Many Thanks ellenvega!!

On the Guinea Lynx forums that you showed me, they were talking about dosing the pigs every 2 weeks - about.

My medication for Flower tells me to give her some every 24 hours for 21 days...


Guinea Lynx also mentioned a higher fat diet. What should I feed her with higher fat??

ellenvega
05-26-08, 04:52 pm
The 'high fat diet' is used with Program, to help with absorption. The GL recommendation is giving them 1cc of flaxseed oil when they receive their dose of Program. That should be sufficient.

I don't think flaxseed oil would hurt either if you are still doing the griseofulvin.

buttons
06-01-08, 12:00 am
Ok, thank you.

Today we were at the vet. The vet gave Flower her 2nd/last invectormin (sp) shot, as the vet thinks Flower has more than just ringworm.

We're giving her a bath tomorrow and continue her prescription.

Wish her the best!