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kala83
08-13-07, 08:07 pm
Hello there, my name is Sarah I am a 23 year old college student from Columbia,MO I am currently in the process of adopting my very first pair of female Piggies from a lady on the boards that lives in Lexena,KS (where my BF currently lives and where I will eventually move to after I get out of school. Anyway she is giving me the Piggies, and a whole ton of cage material to build their cage with. And I have the room to put up a cage the only thing is I think I will need to make it a tall layered cage instead of big and wide like I had originally thought (I just think for the are in my house I want to set this up that will work out a lot better.)
Anyway I have never constructed a cage like this before and I would really appreciated just some general help on how I can get the cage set up once I get the supples back to my house would be great...maybe even some pictures to go off of would be awesome!
Thanks!
P.S. I am due to be picking up the piggies the 15th of Sep. a little after my school semester starts...and if anyone wants I'll be glad to post up pictures of the girls and the cage once everything is set up.

TX_2_Pigs
08-14-07, 08:20 am
Just look in the photo gallery. There are hundreds of pictures of cages of all different sizes and configurations. Really building a C&C cage is merely limited by your imagination.

Just some pointers: when cutting coroplast, measure, then measure again, then measure again, maybe even measure one more time, then cut. But don't worry, even if you do make a mistake it is nothing some packing or duct tape probably can't fix.

You can use the connectors or not. Even if you use the connectors, zip tie all the grids together. This makes it much more stable.

Be sure to post pictures when you finish so we can all see what an excellent job you have done!

envisionary333
08-14-07, 08:29 am
Have you seen this link: http://www.guineapigcages.com/howto.htm? Use this as a guide for putting the cage together, and we can help you with more specific questions as they come up. There are some great tips on this page: http://www.guineapigcages.com/types.htm, and you can use these pages to get help finding materials: http://www.guineapigcages.com/cubes.htm (http://www.guineapigcages.com/types.htm), http://www.guineapigcages.com/where.htm.

jilovecavies
08-14-07, 10:40 am
The previous posts pretty much have you covered! The biggest tip is to use cable ties. When you get your piggies, I definitely want to see pics...I'm sure other members would agree! :)

Tulia&Susie
08-14-07, 10:45 am
Picutures would be lovely. And I agree for my next cages I'm using zip ties because they make everything so much more sturdy and such. Good luck.

kala83
08-14-07, 11:16 pm
The previous posts pretty much have you covered! The biggest tip is to use cable ties. When you get your piggies, I definitely want to see pics...I'm sure other members would agree! :)
No prob lol actually I have three girlies now! I decided that splitting up the the whole group after that had been together for so long anyway would be a bad idea... and the other little girl really stole by heart...the building of cage should not be a prob since Colleen the lady I am getting em from has plenty of cage material.
I havn't really took a good look around the site so I had not seen those other pages...if I have any specific problems I will make sure to come back and I am hoping my BF can help me with some of it too!

Jenni_Feathers
08-15-07, 10:04 am
My cage used to be 2 levels but I took the loft down because it was hard to clean under. I think other people have had this problem too.

kala83
08-19-07, 12:01 am
I think my biggest issue is I don't want to the cage to really WIDE, for the spot I am planning on using it in I just can't since will be right next to a stairwell...what I need to really do is take down so measurements of just how wide I would actually like it to be if I can make it fairly tall to make for the lake of width I think I will be just fine...I just would need to figure out how about I would do that is all.

kala83
08-19-07, 12:21 am
I had a very, very quick question to ask of you guys? I was browsing the photo gallery today and I came across a cage style that I actually like pretty well...I just wanted to ask a simple question would a cage like this:http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=8412 (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/../../photos/showphoto.php?photo=8412)
work for three Piggies? and if it would not would there be anything I could do with mine to make it so that it would?

jilovecavies
08-19-07, 06:28 am
Yes, I think that would be lovely for 3 piggies. You might want to expand it forward a little...maybe have the edges the 3 cubes long and the inner sections 2 cubes long, if that makes any sense. Maybe if you could make it a 2x5 instead of a 2x4...hrm...or even a 3x4...sorry, I'm rambling. lol

pigsforlife
08-19-07, 07:45 am
The style of cage is brilliant, compact yet neat, it would work great if you only had 2 piggers, but since you have 3 you really need 2x5 (expand it by a grid or so), or something to the effect, 3x4 may suit your plans better. I have just spent all day making my cage! Good Luck!

Percy's Mom
08-19-07, 07:48 am
That's really a 2 pig cage. To make it for 3 pigs, you'd want the bottom to be at least 2 grids deep and 5 grids wide.

kala83
08-20-07, 12:21 am
The style of cage is brilliant, compact yet neat, it would work great if you only had 2 piggers, but since you have 3 you really need 2x5 (expand it by a grid or so), or something to the effect, 3x4 may suit your plans better. I have just spent all day making my cage! Good Luck!
I was planning on just getting two at first but the third girl just really stole my heart away and the group of em have been all together for a really long time and I just don't think I want to put them through the stress of getting separated so lol yeah bringing all three in..I think I am going to look at doing something like this in a 3x4 like you are saying...I am hoping my BF can help me out with it since he is far better at making things then I am. I think just to be sure when I do get the piggies I am going to move off some furniture in the room or just area in general in case I need to move the cage to a different spot in the room. The area I am putting it in now is right next to the stair well of my basement and I am just not sure if I put the cage there if there will be a lot of room to walk around the cage...my BF should be able to help me make a plan of some kind to get this going. Hopefully...in the mean time I will try to put up pics of the space I am looking at using for the cage and the area in general and you guys can tell me what you think I can do with the space to make it work.

pigsforlife
08-20-07, 12:38 am
On second thoughts, 2x5 would be bigger, I don't know, I have confused myself now!

jilovecavies
08-20-07, 08:01 am
I think, technically, a 3x4 is bigger than a 2x5, but I haven't taken a math course in quite some time. lol

We just made the 3x4 for our piggies yesterday (still need the coroplast) and it wasn't too hard...except for me stubbing my toes repeatedly on the cubes. I think they'll love it!

You could do a loft, also.

confuzioncity
08-20-07, 03:28 pm
I should have plenty of cubes for you to make the multilevel cage. I'll try to remember to do a cube count this week for you.

Ledasmom
08-20-07, 06:07 pm
A 3x4, ignoring variable spacing due to connectors versus cable ties, is approximately 42 inches by 56 inches, or 2352 square inches, or sixteen square feet and a bit. A 2x5 is approximately 70 inches by 28 inches, or 1960 square inches, or thirteen square feet and a bit.
Neat and quick way of calculating approximate square-inchage on two-cube-wide cages: Approximate width is twenty-eight inches, or 2x2x7. Length is fourteen x number of cubes long, or 2x7x(number of cubes). Since you're multiplying length by width, area in square inches is 2x2x2x7x7x(number of cubes) - or 8 (2x2x2) x 49 (7x7) x the number of cubes. Why does this make it easier? Because 7x7 is 49, which is nearly fifty, and therefore the square inchage is approximately fifty times eight times the number of cubes - or four hundred times the number of cubes. For a three-cube-wide cage, replace eight with twelve (you are multiplying by three once rather than two), giving six hundred times length in cubes, and so forth.
Nobody teaches the kids how to estimate these days, she complains in a whiny-old-lady voice.

kala83
08-20-07, 08:11 pm
I should have plenty of cubes for you to make the multilevel cage. I'll try to remember to do a cube count this week for you.
Sounds great I'll keep you posted on everything I might need to pick up things a little later then what I thought like I told ya before...but hopefully everythig will work out

kala83
08-31-07, 10:05 pm
I think, technically, a 3x4 is bigger than a 2x5, but I haven't taken a math course in quite some time. lol

We just made the 3x4 for our piggies yesterday (still need the coroplast) and it wasn't too hard...except for me stubbing my toes repeatedly on the cubes. I think they'll love it!

You could do a loft, also.
I think a loft would be great as well, my BF is actually going to help..me design something for the girls after your local Renaissance Festival is through. I'll make sure to post up pictures once we get everything set..I might have to look into buying some ramps since I am not sure if Colleen actually has any...and I would love for this to be leveled.

Jenni_Feathers
08-31-07, 10:50 pm
Just remember that only the main level counts as square footage and that the other levels make it hard to clean, but in you situation I'd say at least a 2x4 main level with a large loft or 2.

P.S. GO MIZZOU!!!!!! I'm hoping to be going to their vet school next year :) (I'm assuming thats where you go since your in Columbia)

kala83
09-03-07, 11:09 pm
Not quite yet...I am actually going to Moberly Community College right now...but planning on transferring to MU in a few semesters.
Thanks for the adivce I've been trying to share this info with my BF so that he can help me out with it...hopefully the end result will be good.

Just remember that only the main level counts as square footage and that the other levels make it hard to clean, but in you situation I'd say at least a 2x4 main level with a large loft or 2.

P.S. GO MIZZOU!!!!!! I'm hoping to be going to their vet school next year :) (I'm assuming thats where you go since your in Columbia)

confuzioncity
09-07-07, 11:57 am
I have plenty of the cubes for you. I don't have any ramps but I know some people have taken cube sides and and made ramps from them.

Colleen

wickedrodent
09-07-07, 01:08 pm
I would definatly go with a 3x4. I have both a 2x4 and 3x4 and the pigs run crazy around the 3x4 more than they do the 2x4. The width allows then to run horizonal and vertical, and gives more space to put hideyhouses. In mine I have 3 levels, the bottom, a kinda half level, and small third level (1x1s).

Make sure if you make a 2nd level, its stable but easy to take down if you dont like it. Right now im thinking about taking out the 2nd level of my 2x4.. it really takes up more space than it gives back.. but its only a 1x1.5..

kala83
09-16-07, 08:56 pm
I would definatly go with a 3x4. I have both a 2x4 and 3x4 and the pigs run crazy around the 3x4 more than they do the 2x4. The width allows then to run horizonal and vertical, and gives more space to put hideyhouses. In mine I have 3 levels, the bottom, a kinda half level, and small third level (1x1s).

Make sure if you make a 2nd level, its stable but easy to take down if you dont like it. Right now im thinking about taking out the 2nd level of my 2x4.. it really takes up more space than it gives back.. but its only a 1x1.5..
That sounds good my BF is helping me build and design it so I will just have him help me out. lol so I am going to have him help me out with it!

pigsforlife
09-16-07, 09:03 pm
How is everything going? When are you making the cage? How are you going in terms of adopting the piggers? You said in your opening post that you were due to get them on the 15th of September, has this been pushed out?

kala83
09-18-07, 10:39 am
no I think everything is still going to happen just some unexpected things came up. See my BF works at the Kansas City Renissance Festival and the weekend I was due to go and pick up the piggies, was second weekend of faire...and since we works until 6 or 7 from 10am...it really wares you out being out in garb,in the sun...and on your feet all day so I contacted colleen and told her that I would not be able to pick up the girls until...after faire..which she seemed perfectly fine with. I am planning on picking up the girls the weekend of the 27th of October...not really as soon as I had hoped but it will give me more time to make sure I have room for them in the space I orignally wanted to use..and if not I will just find another place to do it in.
I am actually planning on emailing colleen in just a few minutes to tell her the date I am planning on getting the girls and all their cubes and stuff. It kind of worked out well for the both of us I was not able to get the girls too soon...since Colleen was busy doing a wedding photo shoot that day as well. No worries I think I am still getting the girls just taking a bit longer then I orignally thought at the moment.
But I will keep you all posted promise!

Oh p.s. if anyone know of any pictures in the gallery that are of leveled cages that are 3X4 like wickedrodent mentioned..I would love to have some visual refernces to go off when I get started on mine. Also now that I am looking back on it confuzioncity (AKA Colleen) mentioned she had lots of cubes but no ramps...since I have some time on my hand between now and when I get the girls...does anyone know places online that I could get ramps? If you all can help me with those questions it would help out A LOT right now! Thanks

wickedrodent
09-18-07, 11:01 am
Heres something that would work (if the dimentions were changed up a bit). The bottom level 3x4 with a 1x3 or 2x3 in the middle.. kinda of like this, but going all the way across and without the third level (not sure if you would want it 3 levels)

http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/2662

TX_2_Pigs
09-18-07, 11:50 am
does anyone know places online that I could get ramps?

You can use grids, coroplast, utility baskets, or a piece of wood covered in fleece or carpet.

Here is my ramp made from utility baskets. I got them at the dollar store. There were 3 baskets for $1.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/101_0480.jpg

This is my "L" shaped ramp with the landing in the middle made from just coroplast.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/6761/cat/500/ppuser/6189

Here is one from a bent grid.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/7092/cat/509

This one is one of those little wire spice rack thingies with some non-slip shelf stuff on it.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8409/cat/509/limit/recent

Here is one that is made of wood.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8409/cat/509/limit/recent

Here is one made out of a pvc pipe
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/7837/cat/509

And some more interesting ideas:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/797/cat/509/limit/views
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/665/cat/509

Hope this helped.

kala83
09-18-07, 06:57 pm
You can use grids, coroplast, utility baskets, or a piece of wood covered in fleece or carpet.

Here is my ramp made from utility baskets. I got them at the dollar store. There were 3 baskets for $1.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/101_0480.jpg

This is my "L" shaped ramp with the landing in the middle made from just coroplast.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/6761/cat/500/ppuser/6189

Here is one from a bent grid.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/7092/cat/509

This one is one of those little wire spice rack thingies with some non-slip shelf stuff on it.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8409/cat/509/limit/recent

Here is one that is made of wood.
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/8409/cat/509/limit/recent

Here is one made out of a pvc pipe
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/7837/cat/509

And some more interesting ideas:
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/797/cat/509/limit/views
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/665/cat/509

Hope this helped.

There might be some changes in the cage size...I had to change the location of where the cage is going to go and I am not sure if I can do 3x4 I think I am going to have to go with bare minimum and do 2X4 and have it only be two levels. I am just not sure if I have the room for something any bigger then that. 2X4 can work for three right? I hate to do just the minimum requirements for this thing...but I don't really have much choice since I can't let it take over the entire room.

I am honestly not sure on the leveling yet..I would prefer three but I can deal with two if need be...this is cage I am going to base mine off of: http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=7558 (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/../photos/showphoto.php?photo=7558)

pigsforlife
09-18-07, 06:59 pm
A 2x4 is big enough for 3 girls, but not big enough for 3 boys. Considering you are getting girls it should be fine, although bigger is better.

kala83
09-18-07, 07:05 pm
A 2x4 is big enough for 3 girls, but not big enough for 3 boys. Considering you are getting girls it should be fine, although bigger is better.
Yeah like I said I would want it bigger but I just don't think I have the space for it other wise I would keep it at 3X4 I think 2X4 should work just fine.

kala83
09-22-07, 10:40 pm
Well I have a general idea for the cage now I want it to have a lid for sure, and I want the bottom half where the litter box, I wan it to be able to close and shut open kind of like how a garage door would, also I want to have the cage be at least 2X5 and have three levels, soo now I just need to get started on constructing the thing, which to be honest I have no idea how to begin on. Just really any basic info will be good I think I need to re check the how to make a CC Cage page on here so's I can get some idea on how things work.

kala83
11-04-07, 10:53 pm
A 2x4 is big enough for 3 girls, but not big enough for 3 boys. Considering you are getting girls it should be fine, although bigger is better.
I just thought I would give an update to this since I got soo much wonderful help,I am in the process of making a cage for my girls I got the material I need all except the coroplast which has proven to be the hardest thing to locate but I am hoping by the end of the week I should be able to find some. I was originally going to do a 2X5 but just because I have realized that I simply do not have the space for something that large in the house I am going to down size to 2X4 since like a lot of you have told me for three girls this should be a fine size. I was going to have this be three levels but I am taking it down to two now...and both levels are going to be 2X4 so everything should be fairly even with each other. I am planning on having the girls have lots of outdoor play time when they get to the house to make up for the fact there home is not going to be as big as I orignally had planned but everything should work out just fine. I will make sure to post up pics of the cage and girls in about a week or so after they get into the house and get all settled. :( I really wanted to do a 2x5 I really did but I just simply do not have the space for it anywhere in my house at all! I am hoping that getting the girls out on a daily basis and getting them to stretch their legs outside will give them good enough exercise.