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Ly&Pigs
01-31-07, 04:26 pm
Simply, the answer is no.

Vitamin C drops in the water degrade too rapidly to do any good. Once the light hits the water bottle the C starts degrading and within a very short period of time, the C is already gone. Also the drops can distort the taste of the water making pigs drink much less.

Tang should NEVER EVER be put into a pigs water bottle. Tang contains refined sugars, very little vitamin C and dyes.

VoodooJoint
01-31-07, 04:37 pm
Let's also not forget that many Vitamin C drops also contain other vitamins and minerals that can cause health problems like bladder stones and sludge.

frescchurch
02-06-07, 07:15 pm
I give my piggies Vit C tabs from Oxbow. They are flavored, and even if your guineas don't like the taste, you can crumble them up and hide them in something yummy.

Ly&Pigs
02-06-07, 07:37 pm
The only time supplements like Oxbow C tabs or other plain chewable vitamin C or a liquid C that you syringe directly to the pigs should be given is if the pigs won't eat veggies or they are ill and off their food or have scurvy. If a person provides 1 cup of fresh veggies per day containing enough C, they really won't need a supplement.

scrable
02-08-07, 09:42 pm
I took my two new little girls to the vet for a check up. One weighs 1lb, the other 1.4. The vet said Oxbow pellets were great, the vegies were fine, but to feed 1/4 orange per day, per pig and make sure they eat that before the vegies. This seems like quite a bit looking at the nutrition charts. Any thoughts?

VoodooJoint
02-08-07, 10:35 pm
The pig doesn't need the orange and in fact too much orange or other citrus/acidy fruits can cause mouth sores.

A balanced diet and daily good, normal, veggie selection will provide all the C your pig should need.

Ly&Pigs
02-08-07, 11:05 pm
There is more C in bell pepper than oranges. Your vet is not very cavy savvy.

Alawishes
03-02-07, 04:12 pm
I am new to owning guinea pigs. My piggy doesn't really like oranges and she has food that has vit c, but I'm paranoid that she's not getting enough and then I'm afraid of over feeding it....so How much is too much and what other foods have a lot of vit c? I know you probably get asked this ALL the time, but pls be patient w/ me. I feed her variuos timothy hays (block form, hay, hay/flwr mix/ hay/veggie mix, etc), collard greens, carrots, parsley, oranges.
She love vitc yogart treats, but I do not want to feed her a lot of dairy, piggy muffins (a treat I got at the petstore), these little hay treats that look like mini wheats......I think that's it.....what other foods are high in vit C?

Ly&Pigs
03-02-07, 04:21 pm
Ditch the yogurt treats completely. Pigs should have no dairy at all as they are lactose intolerant. I'd also dump the piggy muffins.


collard greens, carrots, parsley, oranges.This isn't a good balanced veggie diet. Too much Vitamin A and calcium. Take a look at the other sticky threads where you found this thread and see the ones marked sample veggie diets and Everything you need to know about a pigs diet- nutrition charts thread. You will be able to make a better diet for your pigs from these two threads and find out what are good Vitamin C foods.

random09
03-16-07, 10:13 am
Mine wont eat veggies. I have tried. Any advice?

TX_2_Pigs
03-16-07, 10:17 am
You have only had her a couple of days. Give her some time and do a search on introducing veggies. This topic has been discussed several times.

webjetter
04-12-07, 08:40 am
There is more C in bell pepper than oranges.

True statement, BUT, on the sticky thread Everything you need to know about a cavy's diet!!! READ ME- Nutrition Charts & Info - Guinea Pig Cages Forum (http://tinyurl.com/3ddtl5%29) it tells us to aim for a good balance of Calcium:Phosphorus (Ca:P) between 1.5:1 and 2:1, which means less Phosphorus than Calcium. The chart shows that oranges have 40mg of Calcium and 14mg of Phosphorus, almost a 3:1 ratio. Green and yellow bell peppers have more than TWICE the mg of Phosphorus than Calcium, a 0.5:1 ratio and red peppers have more than THREE TIMES the mg of Phosphorus than Calcium, ... doesn't that mean oranges have a much better ratio and therefore are better than bell peppers by comparison? I'm just curious if a little bit of orange and a little bit of pepper would be better than excluding the other food. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Debbie
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Ly&Pigs
04-12-07, 11:54 am
The way to balance the calcium/phosphorus is to use a variety of veggies. You can't really just go by one or two foods. When figuring the ratio, you use an entire day's (or meal's) worth of veggies. Other veggies will balance out the ratio.


doesn't that mean oranges have a much better ratio and therefore are better than bell peppers by comparison?Oranges do have a better Ca:Ph ratio but they also are very high in sugar and are very acidic. You have to take all factors in consideration and not just the Ca:Ph ratio. Oranges compared to bell peppers have about 4 times the amount of sugar than green bell pepper and over twice the amount of sugar in red. Being they are an acidic fruit they can cause mouth sores if fed too often.

Lakota
05-10-07, 09:30 pm
I guess Rudy and Taffy are weird because they love the Vitamin C drops you add to water! :D

You're supposed to change the water daily with the Vitamin C drops added to solve the problem of the Vit C degradation.... or so I was told by my teacher. Given that Rudy and Taffy belong to the school at the moment, I have to follow my teacher's directions.

I do offer them fresh veggies high in Vitamin C too (they don't like them as much as other veggies), and they have these chew toys that look like dried oranges that they like to chew on. Hopefully between those 3 things, they're getting their Vitamin C. :)

kayleemommy01
07-25-07, 10:53 am
You people really know your stuff. I eat veggies but have no idea what kinds of vitamins everything has. LOL! When I get my piggies I will look on the charts to see what I need to feed them, how much and when. Guess I need to go back and relearn everything in health and science class. I did very poorly in high school, I hated it. Took me 6 years to get out of high school. I was the oldest person in the entire high school at the time I graduated, I had a couple of friends older than me but they got kicked out because they were too old.

ava&lilly
01-03-08, 07:12 pm
definatly vitamin c drops! NO tang! thats for humans! I give my pigs drops daily when i replace their water

I<3MyBabies
01-03-08, 07:32 pm
Ava, sweetie --

This thread was made to answer commonly asked questions. The original poster is a moderator on this forum. The question was answered, No. You do not put C drops in your water. That is sadly no what the petstores tell you. You really should read the threads before posting, it will help you gain critical information. So, from now on, stop giving th drops to your piggie and give her veggies like green bell pepper, which is high in c.

ava&lilly
01-03-08, 07:35 pm
ok... the thing is the vet told me to give it to them :s wierd... ok ill try it... but what is the matter with vitamin c drops?

I<3MyBabies
01-03-08, 08:03 pm
Vets really need to be "exotic specialists" or they don't know anything about piggies.

Vitamin C drops are really just useless. The C content expires, meaning it loses strength, very quickly. Also, many C drops are HIGH in sugars, also bad. You're much better off just giving lots of C rich veggies.

kathrynj
01-04-08, 12:20 am
Ava if you actually read the thread it will tell you why!

ava&lilly
01-04-08, 08:13 am
yes, i know i have read it... i change their water EVERY morning and the actually drink the same amount as they did before i gave it to them, maybe even more

daftscotslass
01-04-08, 10:28 am
You cannot possibly monitor the exact amount they are getting, either. Do your pigs a favour and ditch the drops. They prefer veggies.

OzzyLama
01-04-08, 11:16 am
Hi.
Thanks for posting this thread, it is very useful information.
Well I was wondering if it is okay to use urine deodorizer in my guinea pigs water. It is said to deodorize the stool, urine and body odors. I havent tried it yet, but I was wondering if this would harm my guinea pigs want to eat, diet or anything like that. Thanks for reading my post!
-Jackie

daftscotslass
01-04-08, 11:19 am
Never heard of it but wouldn't touch it. Their urine should not smell strongly anyway. Are you sure it's not meant for putting on areas in your house where pets have urinated accidentally rather than in their water?!

kathrynj
01-04-08, 03:31 pm
Ava consider this, you put the drops in the water, IF they drink it as much as they would water, the VITAMIN C content rapidly degrades, so it ends up being little more than flavoured water, with very minimal if any vitamin C. Why would you waste your money on drops?

rabbitsncavyluv
01-04-08, 04:53 pm
That stuff is pretty useless and likely wouldn't work. Guinea pig poop and pee should not smell strongly unless they are getting poor diet or are ill.

misskam
02-29-08, 07:06 pm
Mine wont eat veggies. I have tried. Any advice?


I dont quite know if you have tried this, you probably have. I put my piggy on my lap and feed it a carrot or a vegetable of some sort. Otherwise try feeding it different sorts of vegetable or fruit. Im new at the guinea pig stuff, but i thought i sounded pretty good answering that!;)

KinderCavy
07-13-08, 03:19 pm
uhhh i wouldnt

Bubbles & Pinky
02-28-09, 10:55 am
We are fairly new to cavys. We were using vitamin drops until I read they weren't nessesary (we feed a variety of fresh veggies and fruits) and could cause our cavys to drink less. We stopped using the drops in the water for a few days and it seemed they were actually drinking less than when the vitamins were in the water. Any suggestions? For the time being we have gone back to drops.
Thanks.

Ly&Pigs
02-28-09, 12:17 pm
We are fairly new to cavys. We were using vitamin drops until I read they weren't nessesary (we feed a variety of fresh veggies and fruits) and could cause our cavys to drink less. We stopped using the drops in the water for a few days and it seemed they were actually drinking less than when the vitamins were in the water. Any suggestions? For the time being we have gone back to drops.
Thanks.
Yeah, stop using the drops again. It will take them a bit to get used to the taste of the plain water vs. the water with the drops. In the meantime, just make sure to wet the veggies a little first. They will get the water they need and if that's not enough they will drink their water from the water bottle.

Jeeves
04-22-09, 02:57 am
We live in Australia and because the standard of pellets is apparently pretty poor our vet said we should supplement their diet with childrens chewable vitamin C dissolved in water.
we do feed them fresh vegetables too, but the vet said it is impossible to overdose on vitamin C so strongly advised supplementing their diet.
I have been dissolving 1 500mg tablet in tap water and syringing in to two pigs lasting for 10 days.
I use this method as it would be too tricky to cut up a tablet into 10 pieces. So besides the fact that they absolutely love the taste of it, is this totally pointless after the first day?
Also I leave the dissolved mixture in the fridge so it is in the dark most of the time. I've also heard that if i use boiled water it has no chlorine so the vitamin C will not degrade, would this be better?

sorry for the long question but i just want to do the right thing for my dependants.
Thanks for any help

Ly&Pigs
04-22-09, 10:40 am
If your pigs are getting a good variety of veggies, then the supplement is unneeded. While they really can't overdose on C, giving too much for a long period of time then suddenly decreasing it can cause pseudo scurvy.


I've also heard that if i use boiled water it has no chlorine so the vitamin C will not degrade, would this be better?C will normally degrade as it's exposed to light and air so not sure how true this is.

If you are feeding things like bell peppers (capsicum) and other C enriched veggies such as kale once or twice a week and a broccoli floret once or twice a week, they don't need extra C unless they are ill or not eating.