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jdomans
07-12-06, 05:37 pm
If you click on my name and go to my gallery, you will see 12 photos of how to build a second story for your cage. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:22 am
Step 1
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2012sm.jpg

Step 2

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2013.jpg

Step 3 (using zip/cable ties)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2016.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:23 am
Step 4
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2018.jpg
Close up of grids:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2019.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2020.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:24 am
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2021.jpg

After cutting any grids you must file them down:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2022.jpg
Step 5:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2023.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:26 am
The ramp is made so it can be raised and held up with a small bungee when cleaning the cage
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2024.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:28 am
Making litter boxes:
We fill the bottom layer with Yesterday's News
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2025.jpg

Then a top layer of kiln-dired pine:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2026.jpg

We cut out a slot for the fiddlesticks to fit in:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2029.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:28 am
Finished litter box:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/DSCF2045.jpg

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:30 am
Jackie, hang on as I am going to shoot a quick video and put it on photobucket. Give me a few minutes and take a look.

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:45 am
Here is our cage as of today:
Designing a cage - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/jdomans/Designing%20a%20cage/?action=view&current=DSCF2214.flv)

Please note that we have rescued two babies and the inside colored grids are for baby proofing. We are also in the process of a garden theme.

jackie158
07-29-06, 09:53 am
Wow, look at all those pigs! I want to pignap them all! Thanks so much for putting this up. Is it ok if I can make something simular to your second floor? I like the ramp.

jdomans
07-29-06, 09:55 am
I have no patent on it my dear. Have fun!! LOL

fashion victim
10-12-06, 07:48 am
How or where do I suspend the second floor (loft)?

jdomans
10-12-06, 07:54 am
In the pictures we use zip/cable ties and it is on the top of the bottom grids that run across the back wall. I am sorry I don't know how else to explain it to you. Look at the pics again. They show it all. Because it is so long and the litter box so heavy we have a full and a partial grid below to support it. Again attached with zip ties.

fashion victim
10-12-06, 07:58 am
oh! OK! Thanks, I understand now. I'm not sure if I'm going to build a second floor because I plan on making a huge (4x7) first floor but I'd like to know how to just in case. Another thing I'd like to know: if I make like a playpen out of the grid squares, how many squares should I use in terms of height?

jdomans
10-12-06, 08:04 am
I have PMd you.

luvub40
10-12-06, 10:03 pm
Please excuse my idiocy, but exactly what do you cut the grids with-when I go to Home Depot I need the name of it. And also, did you file it down with some sort of pedicure tool or can I find that thing in Home Depot also?

jdomans
10-13-06, 05:31 am
Oh my I hope your nails don't need that file! I can't tell you the name of the file. It is one out of a pack of various sizes of files. They are two sided files. Just take a grid in with you and have someone point out what you need to file the cut grid down with. As far as cutting them, just a pair of mediumish wire cutters is all you need. Bolt cutters are not necessary at all.

peppererwin
11-19-06, 08:58 pm
Wow this post has helped me so much! Also in the video I saw that you have hanging baby keys, so thats okay to do that right?

Memory
01-07-07, 06:43 pm
What do you make the ramp out of exactly? What's that brown stuff? Did you just bend the cubes to make it, and then attached it with cable wires. Sorry, I just didn't really understand that part so well...

jdomans
01-07-07, 08:47 pm
Step 5 is the ramp which is made from 2 grids bent at a 90 degree angle and then zipped tied together. The brown stuff is a $3 doormat from Wal-Mart that we cut and the zip-tied to the grids.

animalhouse
03-02-07, 05:13 pm
What a awsome post! I was just looking around to get ideas on how to put a 2nd story on mine, But I wasn't sure how to make a ramp. I have like 11-12 extra grids,and almost half the full sheet of coroplast left. I think I will have enough to make a 2nd story. And now that I know a better way to do the coroplast, I may do a better job! I made the mistake of cutting it all the way through,and then taping it together. Oops!

MissCin
06-17-07, 01:54 pm
This is very helpful. Thanks!

kala83
10-01-07, 07:49 pm
I was just wondering how do u put up a second and third level that is directly right above the first securely enough that the two other levels will not fall down.
If anyone can help me with you do this it would be super helpful.
Thanks

CavyGal6680
11-28-07, 01:06 am
Just wondering if the zip/cable ties are sturdy enough to hold the upper story. I have a closed lower-level cage and would like to add a small loft. Thanks in advance!

Jen

TX_2_Pigs
11-28-07, 08:49 am
Yes they are. If you look in my gallery you will see pictures of my cage when it was 2 levels. I didn't use any connectors, only zip ties. The thing to remember is to use lots of them! Every corner had 6 ties. 4 like this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/New%20Cage/3.corners.jpg
and then 2 more diagonally making an X. I did use a broom stick as support poles for the middle of the upper level because it sagged ever so slightly, but I found the boys tended to knock the poles over so they could play with them.

Currently I only have a single level but I am toying with the idea of adding a second level again but haven't decided yet. I will post pictures when/if I do.

CavyGal6680
11-28-07, 09:40 am
Cool, thanks!

Daphne
12-07-07, 12:15 pm
Question-
I want to get a 6 foot long folding table to put my cage off the ground, but it will be a big downsize. Right now my cage is a huge 4x4, and very open. I could add a second story, but I'm not sure how to make them sturdy. Is there a way to make them solid without having to put grids underneath to hold it up? It will be a pain in the neck to lay out my fleece if I have occasional grids blocking the way, you know? Anyone have any suggestions?

TX_2_Pigs
12-07-07, 12:26 pm
Daphne, If you look in my gallery you will see that I had a 2x3 second level. I did not have anything under it and it was fine. It sagged ever so slightly so I put pieces of broomstick under it, but the boys kept knocking them down. If you look a couple of post up, you will see my picture of how I zip tied it together.

Daphne
12-07-07, 12:41 pm
http://www.guineapigcages.com/photos/data/506/frame2.jpg

Is that the photo? How do you get to the bottom level of the cage though? I also use zip ties, they're great.

Daphne
12-07-07, 12:42 pm
ahhh I see you have a big door in the front...

Daphne
12-07-07, 12:44 pm
How do your pigs get to the top floor in this cage?

TX_2_Pigs
12-07-07, 01:05 pm
At that stage if you look closely you can see that the far left front grid and right rear grid are missing and that is where I had my ramps. I also have a picture of my ramps in there.

In this video you can see the boys using the ramps (kind of).
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/th_carrottheif.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/?action=view&current=carrottheif.flv)

I have another video of Harry going down the ramp, but it is really dark and you can't see the ramps very well. You can see the ramp in the background in this one.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/Lady_Buell/Piggies/101_0094.jpg
(I couldn't get it to not distort the thread)

Daphne
12-07-07, 01:14 pm
that second floor looks very solid :) So you didn't need to have anything hold it up? Just loads and loads of zip ties?

beverly06
12-12-07, 07:30 pm
i have a question about making the ramps how do you bend them without breaking them because i tried to bend them and it cracked

CavyGal6680
12-12-07, 11:22 pm
Beverly, there should be a "seam" on the grid if you look on the outer part of it. You don't want to bend on that seam or it will snap. If you bend the other way it should be okay. I am really bad at explaining things but I hope this makes some sense...

Daphne
12-13-07, 09:35 am
I had the same problem, but someone told me they shouldn't crack so I'm doing it wrong.

Miss Piggys Mom
01-06-08, 04:10 pm
Hi I'm new to this forum and have not read all the posts yet so if this question has already been asked I'm sorry. I recently was given a bred female guinea pig, I just love the pics of all these cages and was just wondering where you purchase the material from? I believe you call them Grids.
Thank You for any helpful information

Maisiepaisie
01-06-08, 05:26 pm
See here to find materials http://www.guineapigcages.com/where.htm

guineapigluver1
01-06-08, 05:49 pm
You can get grids from Target.

Miss Piggys Mom
01-09-08, 08:51 pm
Thank You so much for the info. I will be checking those places out :)

cowgirl411
02-27-08, 12:37 pm
grids.......dose anyone know where i can get some?:confused:

Daphne
02-27-08, 01:11 pm
https://www.kc-store-fixtures.com/

That's where I got mine offline!

candicemarie
02-18-09, 11:43 pm
looking for a brick simular to yours under the water bottle, do you remember where you got yours?

jdomans
02-19-09, 08:32 am
I got the brick from Lowe's or Home Depot.

jdomans
02-19-09, 08:34 am
that second floor looks very solid :) So you didn't need to have anything hold it up? Just loads and loads of zip ties?

If you look again, you will see a grid under the second story.

meghannmariexx
03-26-09, 05:21 pm
What is yesterdays news?
Is it like newspaper?

redd1800
03-29-09, 06:46 am
Great ideas for me to steal, thank you :D

AZMomOf7
06-21-09, 12:58 am
Hello, I was wondering if someone could please explain what is the big thing with the fleece? I'm DIEING to know!!! I have a hard time finding bedding and if this truly works instead, it just might be an answer to my prayers. I have no idea if I will find my way back to this post, so could you email me? [email protected] I don't have a lot of luck working the message boards. :) Thanks a bunch!

ashiffman
08-03-09, 10:16 pm
Wow, you really are talented! I'm sure I'll have questions for you when I look over your thread again, but for now I wanted to say that I'm extremely impressed with your handywork, and I think you should start a custom cage-building business!

vietbeautii
08-20-09, 10:46 pm
This is a great thread! May I ask how you bent the cubes? I'm in the process of making a second level, and the way you made your ramp is great!