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QueenAgness
02-10-06, 01:45 pm
Hi everyone!
My name is Samantha, I live in Monmouth County, New Jersey. I just joined the forums a few days ago and finally decided to introduce myself and my piggies. I have six of them, three girls and three boys. I also belong to another forum called Caviesgalore, some of you may know me there as BanditBoy. I'll try and post some pictures ASAP!
Thanks for reading,
Sam

Chloë-Jasmine
02-10-06, 02:01 pm
Welcome to Cavy Cages! I hope you learn something new and meet some new cavy slaves. And yes. Hurry on up with the pigtures, you may get tarred and feathered if you're too slow. I learned the hard way. Just kidding! But we do harass a lot for pics!

QueenAgness
02-10-06, 02:08 pm
Okay here are some pics:

Agness(11mos.)- http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/SamsPigs/halloweenfdthanksgiving571.jpg
Pablo(white and rust american 2yrs?) and Harriet(rust teddy 1yr?) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/SamsPigs/5eff0678.jpg

QueenAgness
02-10-06, 02:15 pm
And of coarse I cant forget the babies! These are the cutest little accidents.LOL.:D Agness got into Pablo's cage while in heat back in November and these three sweeties will be four weeks old on Monday. These pics aren't to recent, I'll have to have a photo shoot this weekend:) .

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/SamsPigs/6422f9c5.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/SamsPigs/Guineapigs131.jpg

Percy's Mom
02-10-06, 02:21 pm
The babies are absolutely adorable! Make sure you get them seperated from Mom and aunties though. They're right at the age when they can start getting the girls pregnant. Has Pablo been neutered? I noticed that you have him in a picture with Harriet. That can be extremely dangerous if one or the other is not fixed. It only takes a moment for a piggy to get pregnant.

jdomans
02-10-06, 02:33 pm
They are all so sweet. Welcome to the group. Yes to separation asap.

QueenAgness
02-11-06, 10:23 am
I apologize, I should have mentioned this in my first post. Pablo, Harriet, and Agness & the babies are all in separate cages. The picture with Harry and Pabs was during floor time. Since I have no other males, except for the babies who are to young, Pablo gets lonely and he shares floor time with Harriet, who is terrified of Agness and also gets lonely. This way everyone is happy. Floor time is alway supervised and times when Harriet is in estrus they have separate floor times.

As for the babies being weaned, I am leaving that up to Agness. It is very beneficial to the babies to will be a lot healthier if they stay with mom as long as possible. They will grow up bigger, stronger and healthier. Also they cannot actually impregnate their mother and sister until about two months old. But that will not be a problem as they will be moving out in two days anyway.

Another thing, Harriet has a bit of a deformity in her back legs. She was a rescue from a petsmart. I go there all the time to check out the condition of the pigs and buy supplies. The employ in charge of animals knows me and asked me to take her no charge. So I did, she is perfectly healthy except for her legs and obesity, due to the fact that she cannot run. Does anyone else have a pig like this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
~Sam~

Percy's Mom
02-11-06, 10:25 am
Also they cannot actually impregnate their mother and sister until about two months old. But that will not be a problem as they will be moving out in two days anyway.

Actually, they can, and will try to impregnate their mother and sisters starting when they are 3 weeks old.

JennG
02-11-06, 10:30 am
Welcome to the forum but...

Actually Percy's Mom is right and that the baby boars can and will impregnate their mom, sister, and auntie. Also you really shouldn't be putting the female and male together on floor time. I've learned from the forum that it only takes a split second for an accident to happen. The baby boars will be just fine putting them in with daddy.

BabyGrl
02-11-06, 12:50 pm
Welcome to the forum, the piggies are adorable.

rabbitsncavyluv
02-11-06, 12:59 pm
Ditto. You need to separate the baby boys at 3 weeks old. They are eating solid foods already and will do fine with Dad.

And it isn't really safe to let unaltered boars and sows "play" together. It only takes a second for them to mate, with your back turned.

suzilovespiggie
02-11-06, 01:09 pm
Welcome! You have beautiful piggies.

pink_cottonball
02-11-06, 02:33 pm
Welcome! Those are adorable pigtures!

QueenAgness
02-11-06, 02:40 pm
Thanks to all those who complimented my pigs. Being that I just joined the forums I am doing my best to accept everyone's advice and consider it. So while I do appreciate it, I also disagree with some of it.
When Agness got pregnant I spoke with several guinea pig breeders and they gave me very useful information. I agreed when I was told that males shouldn't be separated from mom at three weeks. Also the babies are a bit on the small size, probably because there were three of them and Agness is a fairly tiny pig herself. So it is good for them to stay with mom a bit longer. I also disagree that the baby boys can get their mother and sister pregnant simply because they do not try. They do rumblestrut quite a bit, I understand that that is a mating call. If they were atempting to mount the females I would remove them immediately, but that is not the case.

BabyGrl
02-11-06, 02:45 pm
Just because they do not try to mount today does not mean they will not try tomorrow. I got my first boy at less than 4 weeks old and he was fine without Mom. If you read around on the site here and at www.guinealynx.com (http://www.guinealynx.com) you will see stories of people whose 3 week old boars impregnated mom and sisters. If you want to take that chance just be prepared for the consequences. If you wait until they mount their mom it might be too late.

Hansel
02-11-06, 03:20 pm
Unless you are watching them 24/7 you do not know if they are mounting each other or not!

Most guinea pig breeders lack in a lot of common knowledge. Just because they are a "breeder" doesnt tend to mean much around here.

Why do you think so many people come home from the petstore with a young sow thats already pregnant? Its because they dont sex the pigs correctly and keep them together too long.

This forum have VERY knowledgable people running it, and I would suggest you take the advice given unless you want to risk your pigs lives by letting them get pregnant. There is no problem seperating the pigs at three weeks. There is however a HUGE risk that if you dont, one or more of your girls will end up pregnant.

If you dont believe what you are being told here, take a look at www.guinealynx.com (http://www.guinealynx.com) They are a leading site on current guinea information with very experianced people that post.

Again, I stress to you to seperate them. There is already a HUGE number of pigs that get dumped at shelters and have to be euthinized. We dont need to add to that problem.

Hansel
02-11-06, 03:21 pm
Sorry for double posting the guinealynx Babygrl!

Herbie Girl
02-11-06, 03:34 pm
Welcome!! Your piggies are adorable.




Becky

rabbitsncavyluv
02-11-06, 04:25 pm
Just like I don't recommend listening to anything the pet stores' employees or owners tell you, I don't recommend listening to anything a breeder tells you. The conditions of their stock tend to be poor and less than our standards of care.

bbqbarbiedolls
02-11-06, 04:55 pm
The picture with Harry and Pabs was during floor time. Since I have no other males, except for the babies who are to young, Pablo gets lonely and he shares floor time with Harriet, who is terrified of Agness and also gets lonely. Maybe you could get Pablo neutered and then Harry and Pablo can live together without any little accidents. Although I must say, the babies are adorable.

QueenAgness
02-11-06, 07:28 pm
Maybe you could get Pablo neutered and then Harry and Pablo can live together without any little accidents.


Yes, that would solve all of my problems wouldn't it. Pablo would already have been neutered long ago if it wasn't so risky for pigs.

I have decided to take the boys away tomorrow. You are right, I don't know if I can trust all of the breeders I talk to. Actually I only spoke to them on the other forum I belong to, so I don't even know what the living conditions of his/her animals are. I would move them out tonight but it is late.

When the addition on my house is finished I will be building all of my pigs new cc cages. I can't wait, I even have them all planned out.:)

nonamian_girl
02-11-06, 07:38 pm
I am so glad to hear that! Be open to stuff people say on this forum. I was rather skeptical at first, because I've had guinea pigs for over a decade so you'd think I'd know a lot...but BOY do they know more, and are they ever right!

Have fun with your C&Cs :).

BabyGrl
02-11-06, 08:28 pm
Thats really good to hear Queen. Definitly stick around here there are tons of things to learn.

tashagurl
02-11-06, 09:01 pm
If you have a good vet who knows what he is doing, guinea pig nuetering isnt as risky as you would think. I have had two boys nuetered myself and they both came through it with flying colors. One was about eight months and the other(his dad) was about six or seven years old. You donthave to get him nueterd if you are keeping any of the babies though. You could put him and his sons together.

Do you see the three babies in my avatar? They were the result of floortime together. I thought that if I watched Salem and Honey nothing would happen. Obviously I wasent watching close enough.

QueenAgness
02-11-06, 10:22 pm
Well I thought I had a good cavy savy vet, but it turned out he wasn't as good as I thought. I trusted him with the lives of my beloved Rex and then Bandit. I believe that Rex needed a simple tooth trim, yet he died a week after being seen by the vet, he was six. Then there was Bandit, my baby, we are still not sure what took him, but his time came far to soon, he would have been four. I am very attached to my pigs and spend a good part of my day watching them, feeding them, cleaning up after them and holding them. They are about 99.9% of my spare time. So when I lost both of my boys I promised that I would not take my pigs to the vet unless absolutely neccessary. Since the death of my boys I switched vets and have been there twice with Pablo. I still don't trust vets completely.
Also, Pablo goes to work five days a week. He is a class pet in my mom's school. So I think it would be unfair to keep taking him in and out of a cage with another pig.
I will be keeping two of the babies, a male and a female. Molly, the abbysinian baby is staying with Agness(mom) and Ridley is going to my little brother. Charlie is going to be a class pet in my mom's friend's classroom. I will be able to visit him often as she cannot cut his toenails.
This site has really given me some great ideas for my new cages. My entire closet will be dedicated to my pigs. I know it sounds cruel, but my closet is going to be huge. I believe it is 6'4"x10', something like that anyway, and it has several outlets and heat and ac, even a window! There will be two cages, one with Aggie and Molly(2x6 grids) and Harriet(2x3 grids). There will also be a big playpen for floor time. The boys will go in my brother's room.

Hansel
02-11-06, 11:47 pm
I am glad that you are seperating your pigs. In response to this

"Also, Pablo goes to work five days a week. He is a class pet in my mom's school. So I think it would be unfair to keep taking him in and out of a cage with another pig."

I dont know where you live or what the climate is, but bringing them inside and out can get them sick if you live in a chilly climate. I would think that that would still be a lot of stress being moved 5 days a week as well. Pigs are social and just because he "works 5 days a week" shouldnt mean that he is exempt from having a buddy.

QueenAgness
02-12-06, 12:03 am
Pablo's cage at home is next to all of the other pigs cages, so he can see and smell them. He does not go back and forth to school everyday either. He goes in on Monday morning and leaves Friday afternoon. He will not be going back to work for a few weeks as it is very cold and snowy right now. Once our addition is complete and things have settled down, I will consider getting him a spayed sow.