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Astrantia
03-07-04, 08:40 am
Ok, I know pine shavings are bad... I'm not in an area where I can get alternatives. And I'm trying to save on cash etc. Is newspaper and shredded newpapers ok to use for my piggy? I use a comb of newspaper and towel rags right now.

LeonThePiggyMAn
03-07-04, 11:57 am
very cost effective :) and of course thats ok even better would be blank paper shreaded

Astrantia
03-08-04, 11:09 am
Ok! Thank you :-)

mom to cujo
03-16-04, 03:13 am
I understand that we all have money issues, but don't you love your piggie enough to do the best for him and make sure he lives in a clean and comfortable enviornment? If the expense of taking proper care of your piggie supercedes your commitment to proper care maybe you need to rethink your reason for having one. I am certainly not rich, but I would spare no expense to take proper care of my boy. I have heard others say that they can't feed vegetables and such when they are short on money - would you deprive your child of milk? I guess I just don't understand why someone would acquire a pet that they couldn't take proper care of.

morrigan
03-16-04, 07:10 am
I understand you, Astrantia. I tried towel with newspaper underneath. But then I got tired of washing two large towels and I'm running out of newspaper as I have to change everyday.

I used pine shavings again. So far my pigs are safe with them. I've used pine for 6 months now.

You should have plenty of newspaper coz believe me they get filthy easily and you have to change more often.

Mom to Cujo. Using newspaper and/towel doesn't mean you're not giving the best for them. As long as they're keeping the cage clean, it doesn't matter what bedding you use (of course it should be safe for guinea pigs). Maybe Astrantia's saving the money for other things like food or vet or other stuff for her guinea pig. And newspaper isn't a bad alternative as a bedding.

cavylover
03-16-04, 09:43 am
dont you just hate it when someone critisizes ppl. it makes me pretty upset (Dont you love your animal enough to give them the best) like come on was that really necessary to post something like that.

mom to cujo
03-17-04, 05:35 am
After reading posts all over this site I have to wonder about people sometimes. They want a gp, get a gp and then can't afford to take proper care of it. I don't see how you can keep newspaper clean unless you change it every hour. There are lots of posts looking for help to avoid vet bills, or cage investment and people have said they can't always feed veggies because they don't have the money. Why get an animal if you can't take proper care - that is all I am asking. I know that I wouldn't have a child if I couldn't take proper care of it and I wouldn't get a pet that I couldn't take proper care of. Parents allow their kids to get a gp and then won't supplement their care. A child is not financially capable of taking total care of any animal

cavylover
03-17-04, 08:54 am
I dont get what having a guinea pig has to do with a kid. LOL how ignorant can you be classifieing those into the same catagory.1st off: you dont dress guinea pigs second you do not have to provide special care for them(like buy diapers formula or even or even their first bike) Having a child is alot more responsabilities.A pig is an animal do you think that if its never seen special bedding before he would know the difference between CAREFRESH( BLA) and shredded up newspaper.Like i thought i dont think so and second. If you would have read before where she lives they sell cavys but not all the neccesary needs of one i can keep listing things if you want just holla back

morrigan
03-17-04, 10:12 am
First off, kids grow and their needs differ as they grow up. With guinea pigs, they have constant needs, from birth till they get old. They will still eat veggies, hay, pellets and water day in day out. So don't compare a kid from guineas because kids are human and guineas are animal.

I believe Astrantia has only one guinea pig and I don't think her pig will soil her cage that quick in an hour.

Cavy supply here is not as 'complete' as you have there. We don't have hay, no critical care, or whatever. All we have here for bedding is a pine shaving unlike there, you have lots to choose from.

I know Astrantia is giving the best she can for her pig even if we lack supplies here.

mom to cujo
03-17-04, 03:35 pm
I wasn't singleing her out - I just have read so many posts from people that seem to be interested in only saving money - if I offended anyone I am sorry. I have a child and a guinea pig -yes their needs are different but they both have needs just the same. Anyway, I am sorry if I offended anyone and wasn't picking on anyone in particular. I am sorry if it came across that way.

cavylover
03-18-04, 08:29 am
okey thought you WERE singling her out

Astrantia
03-21-04, 10:04 pm
I understand that we all have money issues, but don't you love your piggie enough to do the best for him and make sure he lives in a clean and comfortable enviornment? If the expense of taking proper care of your piggie supercedes your commitment to proper care maybe you need to rethink your reason for having one. I am certainly not rich, but I would spare no expense to take proper care of my boy. I have heard others say that they can't feed vegetables and such when they are short on money - would you deprive your child of milk? I guess I just don't understand why someone would acquire a pet that they couldn't take proper care of.I rarely get annoyed on the internet, but what you said has really ticked me off. How dare you accuse me of not providing the best enviroment for my piggy. Before you go shooting your mouth off, maybe you should have some solid facts to back it up with. Not that I need to justify myself to you, but I will for the sake of everyone else here:

1. I researched Guinea Pigs for a very long time before I bought one. I was aware of their needs.

2. If I wasn't trying to give the best care I can possibly provide them I wouldn't be here at this forum, asking for advice. I wouldn't care.

3. I assume your American, Canadian, British or such. You can easily go to the nearest pet store and get all you need for your piggy. I live in the Philippines. Pet supplies are mostly imported, in fact ALL piggy stuff if imported. Most people don't even know what Guinea Pigs are here! This causes problems, because supplies are irradic. There is often no supplies to be had. I have 2 choices. Pine (which causes my piggy to sneeze) or towels and newspaper. Given the choice I choose THE BEST for my piggy, being newspaper and towels.

4. People in the Philippines on the whole DO NOT look after animals very well at all. I knew I could provide better care for my piggy than anyone else that might buy her. I can imagine what treatment the rest of the piggies bought by other people will probably get.

5. Currently I do only have 1 piggy. She has a 4x2 C&C cage with an upper level. She has fresh veggies everyday, even if I can't afford veggies SHE STILL HAS THEM. I go without. She is very clean. She only soils one corner of her cage, which I clean everyday. The rest of the cage only needs cleaning once a week. I regulary check, but it's always clean, no soiled dirty paper.

People like you make me sick. Getting on your high horses ranting on when you are totally naive to the situation. Wake up and try and see the rest of the World. Not everyone has it as easy as you over there.

Next time I suggest you pick on someone that actually DOESN'T look after their piggies.

cavylover
03-22-04, 01:14 pm
You Go Amiez :)

kennethlhm
03-22-04, 08:43 pm
I'm from Malaysia. I've 2 GP in a 2x4 + 2x1 upper level. I use newspaper + shredded newspaper also. It works fine for me & my GP also. Over here, we may not have as much options as other countries also and these bedding are quite expensive here... maybe because of imported. Bedding cost is much more expensive than foods. So far from what I read from internet or forums, newspaper & shredded newspaper r quite a good option also. GP love it...

mom to cujo
03-23-04, 05:26 am
To everyone that feels the need to ssend me replies---I am sorry if I offended anyone! First of all I didn't realize that your supplies were so limited. Second, I stated earlier that I wasn't singleing anyone out and didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or insinuate that anyone in particular was mistreating or neglecting their piggies. I am truly sorry!

aimeeinohio
04-05-04, 12:22 pm
I don't see how you can keep newspaper clean unless you change it every hour.

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We use newspaper and it's fine. I line the cage with a thick layer of newspaper, put shredded newspaper in one end, and shavings in the other end (the end he potties in), and I pull out wet stuff everynight but that's it. I change the cage completely once a week.

Aimee

gp cage
04-06-04, 06:58 pm
I dont think newspaper is that good

cavylover
04-06-04, 08:27 pm
are we still talking about newspaper like omg.Where she lives she'd have to get it specially shipped to her whihc would cost like another 30 bucks or so so thats why she uses shreaded up newspaper Treen or teresa can you close this post everytime someone replys they dont read everything and just comment.

Treen
04-07-04, 12:01 pm
I know there's been a disagreement on this thread (which looks to have been sorted out now, which is great), but the topic is still a valid discussion point. I can't see the harm in people adding their experiences of using newspaper as bedding as long as it stays on topic.

LizBee
04-10-04, 03:45 pm
I've had my piggy for 4 years and he is thriving in his C&C cage lined with newspapers. I give him a big giant handful of hay every day which he loves to nest into. Sometimes he 'nests' in his towels too. I remember when we first got my GP my husband wondered if the ink from the newspaper would harm him - that's probably what the question from Cujo's Mom was really getting at. Well, I have to say that I have one of the healthiest piggies on the planet! He loves to shred his newspaper and only eats small amounts. I find that if he has enough of other stuff (hay, veggies) to chew on then he rarely eats the newspaper. I try to line the cage with the parts of the newspaper that have the least print - the big one page ads, etc.

tashagurl
04-11-04, 09:05 pm
i use newspaper for all five of my pigs

LiciaMommycott
05-18-04, 11:22 pm
I'm trying just newspaper and hay because of the cost of bedding and have much of the same questions. So far it seems that the bedding does stay clean longer than the newspaper so it becomes a choice between the high cost of bedding or having the extra work of more frequent cleaning. As long as the cage is clean, how much you spend should not be the final determination of your worth as a guinea pig owner.

However, being new to guinea pig ownership, I'm concerned that there may be a downside to using newspaper apart from cleanliness. Can anyone tell me exactly what (if anything) is bad about using newspaper? I layer the cage bottom with newspaper and then tons of hay.

SDMarcum
05-19-04, 12:18 am
I would be careful with newspaper. I use to have rats. And I had 3 rats die of Cancer and lead poisening. I thought it was the food. I had it tested. The vet told me that American newes print has lead in it. So For americans I would be careful. If you can't afford anything else. I really would just use grass or hay. That what I used for along time until I could afford the Swheat scoop I use now. (yes I was out picking grass every morning for my guinea pig box.)

I the philipiens, I know its hard. I have friends from there. And yes they also have lead in their news ink. So do what you have to do. If you can go out and pick or grow grass and weeds for you piggies it would be better for them. But I know it's not always possible.

And I'm sorry that you were jumped on. I was jumped on at a board recently for one of my piggies dieing due to him having an accident. I know how angry it makes you to have people assume that you are not a good fur-parent. People really need to mind there own business and not jusmp to conclussions. And really remember that animals although close and dear to our heart still come second to people. Being a humanist has the word human in it for a reason. We have to put people first some times.

LiciaMommycott
05-19-04, 12:54 am
The vet told me that American newes print has lead in it.
Do you know if it is the ink that has lead or the paper? Packing supply companies sell unprinted newspaper sheets. I wonder if that would be better yet still affordable.

SDMarcum
05-19-04, 12:56 am
Do you know if it is the ink that has lead or the paper? Packing supply companies sell unprinted newspaper sheets. I wonder if that would be better yet still affordable.
it's the ink

LiciaMommycott
05-20-04, 12:02 pm
Well, I tried a few days of no bedding, just newspaper and hay and I have to say it is a disaster. The whole cage was wet within a day and my poor pigs were running around on soggy hay. Newspaper seems to require a complete change of everything on a daily basis, whereas when I was using bedding, I could go for several days (and when I only had one pig, a week) before completely changing everything out.

The cost is high but I have switched back to a layer of newspaper (to ease in removing soiled bedding) then a layer of bedding followed by a layer of hay.

Piglet
05-20-04, 12:57 pm
why do you put hay down? I'm thinking for my piggies that newspaper and bedding ok.

LiciaMommycott
05-20-04, 01:03 pm
why do you put hay down? I'm thinking for my piggies that newspaper and bedding ok.
I read that they like to burrow and play in it so to use lots. Also with just the bedding, they tend to knock it around when they run and they end up on bare newspaper and they slip and slide more. The hay tends to stay in place better and keeps the bedding in a more even layer and makes it more efficient at absorbing pee. It looks more comfortable to run around on too.

I buy hay in bulk and have such a large quantity for such a low price so I can use it liberally and layer the entire cage with it. I also have a loft in the cage that they don't potty in so I keep large piles of hay there for them to eat.

mooser
06-07-04, 12:55 pm
"I used pine shavings again. So far my pigs are safe with them. I've used pine for 6 months now."


Even if your pigs look fine now, the phenols in pine are really bad for them. Guinea Lynx says you can use kiln-dried pine, but I wouldn't take any chances.

truffles
04-18-09, 12:37 pm
4. People in the Philippines on the whole DO NOT look after animals very well at all. I knew I could provide better care for my piggy than anyone else that might buy her. I can imagine what treatment the rest of the piggies bought by other people will probably get.

I agree with you, I first learn't about guinea pigs because they were our subjects or lab rats for our project, but in the end i didnt exactly finish my project because i couldnt bear to see an animal die. My classmate kept hers in a box and didnt care for the cavy at all. The cavy had diarrhea and I asked her if I could adopt it but she was charging me 500 pesos and I found out that the cavy had no chance of surviving anymore.

ferndalezoo
04-18-09, 06:43 pm
Shredded newspaper CAN work, but check with your paper to be sure that the ink they use is soy based. Another option is to call and see if they will give you/sell you cheaply the ends of their unprinted rolls.

If you can't find anything else, can you find polar fleece? I don't know if they have that in the Phillipines or not, but if so, it's a lot cheaper in the long run than just about anything else, and works great with a few layers of towels under it.

Reiki
10-10-10, 02:53 pm
I realize that this is an old thread, but I just left a cavy rescue and this is what she used: a layer of pine shavings on the bottom (I'm assuming kiln dried) and then a nice thick layer of shredded newspaper on top. Her piggies looked quite happy. When she changed it, she just shoveled it out with a dust pan. I forgot to ask how often she needed to change it.

I started with fleece, but I want to try something else. (oh the horror! there are so many converts on this forum, LOL) but it's such a hassle for me. Since I'm already sweeping poops everyday, scooping out their main poop/pee corner daily is no addition to my workload. And since we compost, it all goes into the compost bin. I have some aspen that I'm using in the litter box (which can now go away and create more room in their 2X4 CC cage) so I'm going to experiment tonight. If anyone is interested, I'll update on how it goes.

Now, how to keep the hay off my floor when I'm pulling it from the hay bin to their cage....

MaggieMae
10-10-10, 03:10 pm
Hmm.. well I have to say I enjoyed reading all of the unnecessary drama from the original thread.

Newspaper doesn't really hold any great amount of moisture. I would say if you were going to go with anything go with a safe wood shaving.

The shelter around here puts them on newspaper because it is cheap/free. However, they sit in their pee until someone comes to change it out because it disperses in the paper and then puddles.

I think sometimes it is always an issue of cost in situations like that. However, for just a tiny bit more you could provide them with good bedding (wood shavings) verses what I personally consider bad bedding (newspaper) to save money.

Not to mention the piggy we adopted who lived on newspaper had ink stains all over her.

That is just my opinion though.

pinky
10-10-10, 05:47 pm
I tried using shredded newspaper at one time. It got soggy very quickly and had to be changed frequently or it would stink. I think it might work if you had a huge cage and changed it frequently so the droppings and urine wouldn't be concentrated in a small area. It mats down and gets heavy when it gets wet. My guinea pig was partially white and the newsprint rubbed on her fur so she looked gray.

Cocoacavy
10-10-10, 08:48 pm
OK! You can also use WHITE, BLANK Shredded paper, and i would use that insted of newspaper so your pig wont become grey. you can also buy fleece and there is a thread called..

Cocoacavy
10-10-10, 08:53 pm
Ok! the website is here:

http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/bedding/21568-fleece-project-study.html

Remember, have fun with your Fleece! :):cheerful: