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Ayushi
03-31-18, 08:07 am
Hi, everyone. I'm new here. I have two cavies a boar and a sow. Both of them will be completing 2 years in June. The boar is having moisty poop since 20 days and there's no vet available here. He has something black in the back of his front teeth and he is refusing to eat anything but cucumber. I don't know what to do. He's getting worse day by day and poop smells really bad. Can anyone suggest ms any medicine? It's really urgent.

Guinea Pig Papa
03-31-18, 08:16 am
I know it's difficult, but can you get a picture of his teeth? That might help us determine what's wrong.

The reason he's having wet poop is because he's only eating cucumber. He's hungry and it's easy for him to eat, but it's a terrible diet for him. He needs to come off all vegetables for 48 hours. You really need to find out what's in his teeth or he will starve.

bpatters
03-31-18, 09:03 am
He needs to see a vet who is competent to check his teeth. He can't survive on a diet of cucumber.

Guinea Pig Papa
03-31-18, 09:12 am
He needs to see a vet who is competent to check his teeth. He can't survive on a diet of cucumber.


I completely agree. The OP however is in India and posted that there are no vets. I know I've read before about lack of vets in that country, I'm just wondering if there is something that could be done themselves.

Ayushi
03-31-18, 09:27 am
Exactly. Is there any medicine that you guys can suggest. Or is there any way by which I can remove what's behind his teeth myself?

Ayushi
03-31-18, 09:29 am
Is there any other vegetable I can feed him, given his condition?

Ayushi
03-31-18, 09:31 am
I've tried it many times, but he's very reluctant. All I can tell is it's very black-ish. And my piggy makes clicking sound while chewing his cucumber. Also he takes very little bites and drinks a lot of water.

Guinea Pig Papa
03-31-18, 09:33 am
Exactly. Is there any medicine that you guys can suggest. Or is there any way by which I can remove what's behind his teeth myself?

There is no medicine that you can give. Without being able to see what's in his teeth, we can't advise you what, if anything, you can do. Vegetables are NOT the ideal diet for him. Timothy hay is the most important thing in his diet, with high quality pellets being the next best thing.
bpatters is right, he really does need to see a vet if you can possibly find one at all.

Guinea Pig Papa
03-31-18, 09:46 am
I've tried it many times, but he's very reluctant. All I can tell is it's very black-ish. And my piggy makes clicking sound while chewing his cucumber. Also he takes very little bites and drinks a lot of water.

From what you're describing, he's suffering from a case of malocclusion, the same thing my boar Sly is going through. The black material is likely food or some other obstruction caught on the overgrown teeth, and the clicking noise is the overgrown teeth hitting each other. The excessive drinking is also a dead giveaway, both for the pain and he's trying to get something in his tummy so he's not so hungry.

Are his front teeth slanted, instead of flat across? Do they look like this? 84407
If they do, it's almost guaranteed to be malocclusion, and he urgently needs a cavy savvy vet.

bpatters
03-31-18, 11:00 am
Agreed, it sounds very much like he's got a tooth problem, and there's nothing you can do for that. It requires a vet experienced in rodent dentistry, and those are hard to find even in countries with many more vets than India.
Ayushi, what city are you in/near?

Ayushi
03-31-18, 12:49 pm
Agreed, it sounds very much like he's got a tooth problem, and there's nothing you can do for that. It requires a vet experienced in rodent dentistry, and those are hard to find even in countries with many more vets than India.
Ayushi, what city are you in/near?
Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh. Please recommend any vet that can manage the trouble, if you know any. I've tried so many places.. I couldn't find one vet.

Ayushi
03-31-18, 12:52 pm
From what you're describing, he's suffering from a case of malocclusion, the same thing my boar Sly is going through. The black material is likely food or some other obstruction caught on the overgrown teeth, and the clicking noise is the overgrown teeth hitting each other. The excessive drinking is also a dead giveaway, both for the pain and he's trying to get something in his tummy so he's not so hungry.

Are his front teeth slanted, instead of flat across? Do they look like this? 84407
If they do, it's almost guaranteed to be malocclusion, and he urgently needs a cavy savvy vet.

No, his front teeth are perfectly well in shape and place. It's the blackness that's behind his teeth that's weird.

bpatters
03-31-18, 01:28 pm
I can't google up a rodent vet in all of Uttar Pradesh. Does Allahabad have a zoo? If so, you might call to see if they have a vet who could see him, or could recommend someone reputable to examine him?

Ayushi
04-01-18, 01:56 am
I can't google up a rodent vet in all of Uttar Pradesh. Does Allahabad have a zoo? If so, you might call to see if they have a vet who could see him, or could recommend someone reputable to examine him?

Sadly, there isn't any. There's one vet but he'll be here after 5th of April. I don't know what to do... I want him to make it.

bpatters
04-01-18, 09:09 am
Then mix a slurry of pellets (grind them, then soak in water and stir until the lumps are out) and feed him by syringe. How much you feed depends on the weight of the pig and how much else it's eating. A pig needs 100+ cc of slurry for every kilogram it weighs, every day, split into 6-8 feedings around the clock. Adjust up or down depending on how much the pig weighs, and down if it's eating anything else. The pig won't like this process, but it MUST eat or it will die. See https://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/115000-Handfeeding-a-guinea-pig for more instructions.

I find it easier to use a larger syringe, but if your pig is particularly uncooperative, the small ones may be better. It also helps if you put the pig on a table and snuggle it into one elbow. Hold the pig's head with that hand, covering the eyes as much as possible, and use the syringe with your other hand.

And see that vet on the 5th, even if you have to show up unannounced and demand to be seen.

Janani.R.S
04-01-18, 10:59 am
Go to the vet! Don't wait any longer, cucumber is not a good diet for a guinea pig, he needs more than that. I wish your guinea pig the best of luck.

bpatters
04-01-18, 11:13 am
Janani.R.S, please read the thread before posting. This person cannot find a suitable vet anywhere near, and is trying to keep the pig alive until April 5 when a vet will be available.

Ayushi
04-01-18, 11:24 am
Then mix a slurry of pellets (grind them, then soak in water and stir until the lumps are out) and feed him by syringe. How much you feed depends on the weight of the pig and how much else it's eating. A pig needs 100+ cc of slurry for every kilogram it weighs, every day, split into 6-8 feedings around the clock. Adjust up or down depending on how much the pig weighs, and down if it's eating anything else. The pig won't like this process, but it MUST eat or it will die. See https://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/threads/115000-Handfeeding-a-guinea-pig for more instructions.

I find it easier to use a larger syringe, but if your pig is particularly uncooperative, the small ones may be better. It also helps if you put the pig on a table and snuggle it into one elbow. Hold the pig's head with that hand, covering the eyes as much as possible, and use the syringe with your other hand.

And see that vet on the 5th, even if you have to show up unannounced and demand to be seen.

Thank You! I will surely follow that. I just don't understand what to do with his teeth... will he be able to remove it himself?

Ayushi
04-01-18, 11:28 am
I've been hand feeding him coriander and chapati(whole wheat bread baked on Indian tawa) and also a little bit of tomatoes. He's eating that.. not much but in little amount. That's all he's eating. I'm not stopping his veggies because that's all he is eating and today his poop seemed a little better in shape and less moisty than before.

Ayushi
04-01-18, 11:31 am
I think that's the main problem.. everyone's suggesting a Vet (which is right on their part) but there isn't any! I knew it when I got them...I only did it to give them a better life than that they were living before.

bpatters
04-01-18, 02:32 pm
Do NOT feed him whole wheat bread, and do NOT overdo the vegetables. If he's having trouble eating, he should be getting a pellet slurry with only occasional small amounts of veggies.

Ayushi
04-04-18, 06:41 am
Hi, I finally found a vet. He suggested Aciloc-S 10 drops, Vizylac 10 drops and Nor-metrogyl 10 drops. Also Bandy Plus 12-15 drops. My piggy weighs around 450gms. He said my boy has colitis. Is this medication alright for cavies? Please reply asap. He needs quick help.

Ayushi
04-04-18, 07:00 am
Okay and sorry for the late reply. I was busy looking for vet.

bpatters
04-04-18, 08:37 am
Well, the vet is treating your pig for an intestinal problem, but you haven't described any symptoms on here that indicates that he has one. For a pig to be given those meds, I'd expect you to be telling us about gas and bloating.

Aciloc is a probiotic, Nor-metrogyl treats intestinal infections, Bandy is a de-wormer, and Vizylac is a probiotic with vitamins. I definitely wouldn't give the Bandy until you've solved the other problems.

But I don't see how any of these medicines would help with his teeth, which is what you first asked about. The Nor-metrogyl looks to be the most useful, and I'd give the Aciloc or the Vizylac about an hour after giving it.

Ayushi
04-04-18, 09:47 am
Well, the vet is treating your pig for an intestinal problem, but you haven't described any symptoms on here that indicates that he has one. For a pig to be given those meds, I'd expect you to be telling us about gas and bloating.

Aciloc is a probiotic, Nor-metrogyl treats intestinal infections, Bandy is a de-wormer, and Vizylac is a probiotic with vitamins. I definitely wouldn't give the Bandy until you've solved the other problems.

But I don't see how any of these medicines would help with his teeth, which is what you first asked about. The Nor-metrogyl looks to be the most useful, and I'd give the Aciloc or the Vizylac about an hour after giving it.

He says that because he's able yo eat selective things like chapati but not hay which is softer in comparison is because he has parasites in his stomach. He wishes to eat but can't because of it. There aren't any vet that I can trust. Life is a gamble here. I'm so disappointed. I can either try that or not try at all.

bpatters
04-04-18, 10:24 am
What about the vet who's supposed to be available after the 5th?

Ayushi
04-04-18, 11:08 am
What about the vet who's supposed to be available after the 5th?

I will see him tomorrow... I only saw this vet because, I thought my piggy won't make it till tomorrow. Also I don't have high hopes from the vet I'm supposed to see tomorrow, it's the first time I'm going to see him.