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Einstein
04-19-15, 01:45 am
Today I was out taking care of the goats, grabbed a handful of hay for the buns and gave it to them. Molly started grabbing mouthfuls of hay. Now, she's done this before and she wasn't pregnant, but then she was pulling out mouthfuls of fur too, and not long after there was blood in the box and five little babies!! Ahh. They look so nekkid. She had them in her little hidey hole. They're so freaking precious.


http://i.imgur.com/Tw5Uj2h.jpg
So this is her hidey hole. Usually she sits in here, glares, and eats hay, but now she sits on top of it. She did it before too, hence why it's dirty, but now that's all she does.
http://i.imgur.com/GV92yml.jpg
Look at all that fur! I don't know how she's not completely bald, lol.
http://i.imgur.com/2taEUXr.jpg
The wittle babies! They're so pink.
http://i.imgur.com/cZQqUr3.jpg
I'm just happy there's no peanuts or anything. All fat little goobers.
http://i.imgur.com/kMoKGXL.jpg
Old pic, but here's Molly!
http://i.imgur.com/aDypnYh.jpg


And just cause I'm sharing pics, here's my other goobers.
http://i.imgur.com/RADZZau.jpg
Benedict
http://i.imgur.com/oIDYYKe.jpg
Dolly
http://i.imgur.com/AyU36U0.jpg
Hobbit, my crippled bun bun.
http://i.imgur.com/ND8JyGu.jpg
Sorry, too many photos?

UniqueCavy
04-19-15, 02:12 am
Jealous! Wish I was allowed to have a rabbit but where I live if you get caught having a rabbit you get a $44,000 fine and Im pretty sure your bunny gets euthanised :(

UniqueCavy
04-19-15, 02:12 am
They are all so cute by the way! :)

Kelsie
04-19-15, 09:08 am
Your bunnies are so beautiful. I think I might have to come and steal the little gray one.
UniqueCavy, is the reason rabbits are illegal to own in Queensland because the government is afraid they will get loose and reproduce and destroy the area? I know that ferrets are illegal to own in Hawaii because of the fear of them destroying the environment.

foggycreekcavy
04-19-15, 09:39 am
Are you breeding?

Soecara
04-19-15, 08:19 pm
@UniqueCavy (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/member.php?u=34584), is the reason rabbits are illegal to own in Queensland because the government is afraid they will get loose and reproduce and destroy the area? I know that ferrets are illegal to own in Hawaii because of the fear of them destroying the environment.

It's not that they are scared they will get loose, it's that they already have. Wild rabbits are a huge problem across all of Australia, they were originally intentionally released for game hunting purposes (back when Australia was first settled by the English). Due to our lack of predators on the main land the numbers have boomed out of control. This is having a massive impact on our native wildlife as the rabbits are out competing them for food and decimating native grasslands. In an attempt to lower the wild rabbit population things like intentionally releasing off calicivirus and myxomatosis happens quite frequently. Yes, these viruses do make their way to pet rabbits but you can vaccinate against myxo.

Einstein
04-19-15, 10:07 pm
Thanks!

@UniqueCavy (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/member.php?u=34584) Yeah, that sucks about Australia. But they're just trying to reverse the things we've done to the environment there.

@foggycreekcavy (http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/member.php?u=13918) No, this wasn't intentional. When I was in Ecuador my mom was caring for the buns (and other animals) and she let Molly and Benedict live together. Soo, a month later and here we are. But I've owned rabbits forever and consider myself fairly knowledgeable on genetics and coloration. So I'm already guessing colors :P


More pics of the babies. Wonder what color they'll be. based on what I know genetic wise it should only be blue torts, since mum is a sable and dad is a tort. But if dads really a sable (since rabbit colors can be hard to tell) we could end up sables instead. Time will tell I suppose. Since mom is vienna marked (she's got half a blue eye lol) they'll all be VM, which makes for half blue eyes and odd coloration. Looks like 2 boys, 2 girls and 1 ??



http://i.imgur.com/uPzMcGk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/r88XELG.jpg
This front guy is def vienna marked. You can see how his a pink stripe down his face? Usually it makes the buns look like Dutch rabbits.

foggycreekcavy
04-19-15, 10:15 pm
Why do you have unaltered rabbits? Rabbits should always be spayed and neutered. Not only for their health (females often develop reproductive tract problems later on) but also because of their behavior. Unaltered rabbits are destructive and stressed.

I recommend you get your rabbits spayed and neutered soon. If you had, this wouldn't have happened. Did you know that rabbits are third only to cats and dogs in animals dumped at shelters?

Einstein
04-26-15, 01:11 am
Ah sorry been gone. Went to the state FFA convention, it was so much fun! My first year, and wow. Got to learn about vet science, floriculture, job interviews, mechanics, public speaking.. Something for everyone! So much dancing too lol.

Anyways, they're about a week old (actually I think they're exactly a week). Very cute. Super wiggly. Since I was gone they haven't been handled much one bit me!!! I was in disbelief, didn't hurt, but holy cow.

http://i.imgur.com/K2QG4ik.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vfYr0mS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7sQ2tlI.jpg


sadly, it seems one of them died :( but otherwise we have 4 healthy fat buggers

pinky
04-26-15, 07:34 am
Are you going to have them neutered/spayed? I think it's too risky not to.

Einstein
04-26-15, 03:28 pm
Are you going to have them neutered/spayed? I think it's too risky not to.

No offense, but you don't know my rabbits. My biggest one is 9lbs and fixed (taco rabbit). Then there's my other 4 rabbits, who collectively weigh 9lbs. They're holland lops, and each of the adults average 2-3lbs, with Hobbit the 4 month old weighing 1 1/2lbs ish. And she's got a screwed up hip, so that adds to the difficulty of spaying her, but that's a whole other issue.
Would you recommend I spayed my 2lb guinea pig? Cause the guinea pigs are about the size of the rabbits. But no one tells people to spay them. They're tiny, tiny rabbits, and spaying is a rather intrusive surgery. Neutering isn't nearly, but generally, I'm hesitant about putting my smallest rabbit (Benedict is the smallest adult) under. Even Einstein whose pretty big, 3lbs, I doubt anyone would tell me to neuter him because it's generally considered intrusive and hard to neuter or spay guinea pigs due to their size. But because my 2-3lb things have fluffy tails and big ears I'm expected to put them through a pretty intrusive surgery?

pigmommy89
04-26-15, 03:43 pm
Rabbits and guinea pigs are very different when it comes to spay and neuter surgeries. Complications are much more likely for guinea pigs. And neutering is not at all invasive for a rabbit, no more than for a cat or dog (who are now quite commonly altered at two pounds.) Also, it is easier to find a vet experienced with altering rabbits.

pinky
04-26-15, 03:49 pm
Rabbits should always be spayed or neutered.
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=489

pigmommy89
04-26-15, 03:49 pm
Forgot to add: the issues related to guinea pig neuters are usually due to their unique anatomy, not as much the anesthesia.

pinky
04-26-15, 03:50 pm
Rabbits and guinea pigs are very different when it comes to spay and neuter surgeries. Complications are much more likely for guinea pigs. And neutering is not at all invasive for a rabbit, no more than for a cat or dog (who are now quite commonly altered at two pounds.) Also, it is easier to find a vet experienced with altering rabbits.
My vet said it's a much easier procedure than with guinea pigs.

pinky
04-26-15, 03:53 pm
Forgot to add: the issues related to guinea pig neuters are usually due to their unique anatomy, not as much the anesthesia.
Guinea pigs are very sensitive to anesthesia and that's one of the main reasons it's so important to ask an exotic vet about their surgical statistics when it comes to neutering or spaying a guinea pig.

pigmommy89
04-26-15, 03:55 pm
It definitely is pinky. In fact, my vet charges almost double the rabbit price to neuter a guinea pig. He charges the same amount to neuter a guinea pig as he does to spay a small rabbit.

pinky
04-26-15, 04:03 pm
It definitely is pinky. In fact, my vet charges almost double the rabbit price to neuter a guinea pig. He charges the same amount to neuter a guinea pig as he does to spay a small rabbit.
Just because it costs more doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Neutering/spaying for rabbits is more important than for guinea pigs.

pigmommy89
04-26-15, 04:04 pm
Guinea pigs are very sensitive to anesthesia and that's one of the main reasons it's so important to ask an exotic vet about their surgical statistics when it comes to neutering or spaying a guinea pig.
Rabbits are sensitive to anesthesia as well. I was referring to complications seen in guinea pigs that rabbits do not have, such as herniations at the incision site.

pigmommy89
04-26-15, 04:19 pm
I'm not sure where you're not following me pinky. I am advocating for her to alter her rabbits, and trying to explain why it is different to alter rabbits vs guinea pigs.

pinky
04-26-15, 04:27 pm
I'm not sure where you're not following me pinky. I am advocating for her to alter her rabbits, and trying to explain why it is different to alter rabbits vs guinea pigs.My bad. I misread. The point I was making is no matter if there's a cost issue or whatever, rabbits should be altered. I've known quite a few people with unaltered rabbits that had aggression issues.

ciaraelise
04-26-15, 05:42 pm
You should be able to get your bunnies fixed fairly easily. If your vet is telling you its too intrusive I highly reccomend seeing another vet for his/her opinion. When a vet has a very unpopular suggestion with people who are otherwise very educated on the subject its at least worth seeing another certified and practicing vet for a second opinion.

Your babies are seriously so cute though.

Best of luck, I hope you decide to do the procedures :)

piggielover200
04-26-15, 09:06 pm
I know that fixing a rabbit is recommended but it is her choice and she has stated the she is not making that choice. I have two rabbits that are both almost 5 years old and due to my circumstances and a vets recommendations they are both unfixed. They are both super sweet. I think she has made it clear that isn't her choice to fix them.

I LOVE YOUR BABIES! I would adopt one if i lived near you! Best of luck :)

Einstein
04-27-15, 01:26 am
My bad. I misread. The point I was making is no matter if there's a cost issue or whatever, rabbits should be altered. I've known quite a few people with unaltered rabbits that had aggression issues.

And I've never had a single aggression issue, potty training issue (aside from few poops), or spraying issue from any of them..

The bucks hate each other, but that's fairly expected of 2 unbonded rabbits.

@pmpiggielover200 thanks! They are, the sweetest things ever. Mom is making them nice and fat. I've already got someone on Saturday coming out to look at them, not sure if they want a pair or what. And then I've got another person whose interested in one. These guys found homes pretty fast considering it'd be a month 1/2 before I can let them go lol.

Paula
04-27-15, 01:09 pm
And I've never had a single aggression issue, potty training issue (aside from few poops), or spraying issue from any of them.Perhaps not, and that's great, but you have had a supposedly unintentional, supposedly accidental litter, so it isn't an unreasonable suggestion or idea that you might consider having them altered. There really are A LOT of unwanted rabbits these days, and it really is a fairly straightforward procedure. Most clinics in my area also include rabbits as part of their low-cost spay/neuter program because it's such an easy procedure and such a big issue ... To each his own, I suppose, but there's no reason to be offended by the suggestion that you spay and neuter them in this circumstance ... it surely wouldn't seem like an offensive suggestion if you had just had a litter of accidental puppies or kittens, would it?