This forum is ridiculus!

[organicsab]

I posted photos of my piggies in their outdoor hutch, but because this forum only supports indoor C&C cages they deleted my photos. I posted them in 'Outdoor environments' and I've seen other pics on their of worse permanent outdoor cages. If anyone knows anything about where I live they would know they are safe outside. The weather here is not like America or the UK. I do not have dangerous animals around me and I have them in a very secure yard where cats and dogs do not enter. I think I may have made a mistake joining as I didn't know this was an only c&c cage forum.
I am so disappointed and I don't think I'll be coming back here. Why have an outdoor environments section where you are not able to post pictures outside.

[Paula]

Wouldn't it be easier just to ask a mod why the photo was deleted? They don't go through and randomly delete photos unless there's a violation of a rule or policy or something like that. In fact, I bet you have a private message explaining the exact reason for removing the photo or photos to help you know better what to do (or not do) next time. And if you posted a photo you know is against the rules here, what are you complaining about?

Instead of posting a pathetic, whining 'oh, woe is me' thread ... why not find out what you're doing wrong so you can make it better for yourself and your pigs?

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by organicsab

I think I may have made a mistake joining as I didn't know this was an only c&c cage forum.

Don't make this assumption-my cage is not a C&C cage and its picture was not deleted. Why not PM a mod to find out what rule your photo violated as opposed to making this very public rant?

[VoodooJoint]

It's not rocket science. READ THE RULES http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/...-pictures.html

PLEASE NOTE:
Proper size and SAFE! Your cage MUST provide a GROUND floor (or bottom level) space of at least 7.5 SQUARE FEET--REGARDLESS of upper levels provided. Your cage must be an INDOOR cage. Outdoor runs and play areas are acceptable, but not cages or hutches.

No commercial or pet store cages! Under any circumstances. If you have some great purchased cage that meets our cage requirements, please post about it in the forums and get permission to post a photo of it first.

Not another Cozy or Hidey House Photo! We are looking for EDUCATIONAL or INFORMATIONAL photos. Others browse the galleries looking for IDEAS and examples. We really don't need another cozy photo, igloo or salad picture. Pictures of your appropriate cage or unique accessory or toy or other related photo are more than welcome.

Clear, crisp, well lit photos only! If your picture is blurry, dark or on it's side or if we can't clearly see or tell what the picture is of it will be deleted.

Place pictures in the proper section. If you misfile a picture it will get moved or deleted.

Pet pictures are allowed but you must place them in the appropriate section and they must be of guinea pigs. We will not accept other animals in the photos.

No pictures of guinea pigs cohabitating with other animals. If you upload a photo of a pig sharing living space or floor time with another species, such as a rabbit, chinchilla, dog or cat, it will be deleted.

Pictures showing proper care. Please insure that you understand and follow proper care for your pets. If your picture showcases improper food, supplements or care it will get deleted. This includes pictures that show food with seeds, nuts, dried fruit/veggies or colored bits in it, seed treats and salt/mineral licks.

No drawings or graphics of your cage plans If you've drawn up a cage plan feel free to post it in a thread, not in the galleries. The galleries are for cages existing is real life only.

No sexing, medical or "questions" pictures. If you need advice about the proper sex of your pet or input about a medical condition please post about it in (including the pictures) the Medical Forum, NOT in the galleries. If you have questions about your cage or are wanting opinions about a name for your pig the gallery is not the place to post these questions. Questions belong in the forum.


Any and all violations may earn you an infraction

[Chicapuff]

I was wondering, why is it compulsory to only have an indoor cage?

I'm in Australia, and while I am having my piggies indoors (mainly cause I live in an apartment.. but also cause I want to have them close :)) if someone had a nice, safe, very enclosed garden then I wouldnt see too much of a problem as long as there were lots of trees and shady areas from the sun.
And just bring them indoors in summer perhaps as I know heat stroke can be a worry?
Australia really doesnt have issues with dangerous animals unless you're in the outback maybe :P

Correct me if im totally wrong about all this, im still learning too :)

[VoodooJoint]

It has been scientifically proven that animals housed indoors live longer, healthier lives.

You may think you don't have any dangerous predators near you but I can guarantee that you have the most dangerous predator of all not only living near you but in great numbers. They are called humans.

You don't think anything bad could happen to your pets? Neither did these people.

Dangers of Outdoor Housing
Summer is Coming. Should You House Your GP Outside?
Outdoor vs Indoor
UK GP housed outside dies of heatstroke
GPs stolen from outdoor cage
2 GPs in outdoor cage killed by dog (on Animal Precinct)
HAWK, drops guinea pig in someone's yard
Violent thugs batter family pets to death
Thread about people breaking into outdoor hutches and sheds
2 guinea pigs stolen from outdoor shed
Guinea pig attacked by rats in shed
Magpies attacking GPs in their outdoor hutches
4 GPs dead. Cause is a suspected mouse infestation in shed and garden
Ant infested yard and hutches
Warning for those keeping animals outside
Guinea pigs stolen from "Cavy Sanctuary"
GPs stolen from outdoor garden
More Guinea pigs die of heatstroke
Guinea Pig Killed by Cat
Guinea Pigs Being Attacked by Cat

[Peggysu]

I don't live out doors, neither does my dog. So why should my guinea pigs?

[Chicapuff]

VoodooJoint, thanks for the links. Even if those things might never happen to an outdoors piggie, I guess staying on the safe side can't hurt.

[pigsmakemesmile]

To me it's just plain common sense not to house pigs outdoors, they don't have any way to defend themselves other than to scurry. If they're penned up...their ability to run is nill. With temperature changes and predators...It's not if but when that something will happen. It's also easy to forget that they're out there and the risk increases for neglect.
Aside from my 5 pigs, I also have 5 rabbits. They are out in the bunnybarn...a large 8 x 14 foot fancy shed equipped with heating, lighting, air, windows, skylights, water. There's also a pen attached outside so the buns can venture in and out of the barn during the day but only when wer'e home to keep an eye on them. We would never leave the barn open at night or if we went somewhere because of the risk for predators. We live in a densely wooded area. I'd like to bring the pigs in the barn someday after my daughter moves out and takes the rabbits with her only because being in the barn is just like being in the house as everything is insulated. The highest temp on the coldest day in winter is in the 60's. I don't ever see them movng out to the barn as I really like them inside where it's really the safest environment. I'm always toying with new ideas on improving their wellbeing. However, This forum is pro indoor c/c cages and for good reason.

[madakri]

Originally Posted by organicsab

I posted photos of my piggies in their outdoor hutch, but because this forum only supports indoor C&C cages they deleted my photos. I posted them in 'Outdoor environments' and I've seen other pics on their of worse permanent outdoor cages. If anyone knows anything about where I live they would know they are safe outside. The weather here is not like America or the UK. I do not have dangerous animals around me and I have them in a very secure yard where cats and dogs do not enter. I think I may have made a mistake joining as I didn't know this was an only c&c cage forum.
I am so disappointed and I don't think I'll be coming back here. Why have an outdoor environments section where you are not able to post pictures outside.

You know, from the very beggining when you started posting, I and other members and mods tried to explain to you that housing these pets outside was wrong.
We told you in a nice way and every which way, but it's like I said before " you either don't get it or can't get it".
I even offered to help you financially, if that's what you needed to bring those pets inside, and what do you do? you give me a "No thanks for this post".

At this point, and I'm speaking for myself, who cares if you don't want to come back to this forum, it's not like we need people like you on here, doig the worst they can for their pets!

I for one don't like you very much, just because of your ignorance and incapability to learn and do better by your pets.

"NOW" go ahead and give me a "no thanks for this post again" No one cares what you think!

Good riddens.

And I don't care how many words I mispelled.

[madakri]

Originally Posted by madakri

You know, from the very beggining when you started posting, I and other members and mods tried to explain to you that housing these pets outside was wrong.
We told you in a nice way and every which way, but it's like I said before " you either don't get it or can't get it".
I even offered to help you financially, if that's what you needed to bring those pets inside, and what do you do? you give me a "No thanks for this post".

At this point, and I'm speaking for myself, who cares if you don't want to come back to this forum, it's not like we need people like you on here, doig the worst they can for their pets!

I for one don't like you very much, just because of your ignorance and incapability to learn and do better by your pets.

"NOW" go ahead and give me a "no thanks for this post again" No one cares what you think!

Good riddens.

And I don't care how many words I mispelled.

And may I add, the only one "RIDICULOUS" here is you!!

And "that" word, I can spell!

[auburnmare5]

I have seen this same situation alot. If you simply read the rules, then you wouldn't have this problem, you wouldn't be mad at the people and mods of the site, and I wouldn't be typing this post explaining that people should read for a few minutes and save themselves so much trouble.
Reading the rules is one of the first things you should do. They are in just about every forum section, so they are not that hard to find.
The picture rules are so specific beause we want to be promoting the proper cage, and to set a good example for the other members.
Before you made this everyone else's problem, you should have simply PM a mod, and asked why.
No other site will have such TRUE and HELPFUL information. Other sites will want you to believe what ever they think is right and they will probably have no evidence to back it up.
If you want to give new piggy owners the wrong idea of how to care for a guinea pig, then go ahead.
Housing a guinea pig outside is unfair. Yes, they live outside all of the time in the wild, but when they are in your care, they aren't in the wild. They are probably hundreds, if not thousands of miles away from their natural habitat. So, it is like taking someone from Florida, who is wearing shorts, and having them go to live in Alaska without any preperation. It is setting up for failure. They didn't adapt and they are unable to.
In other words, guinea pigs belong in your house, with you and your family, not outside and left to the side and you carefor it whenever you get around to it. I don't think you would appreciate being tossed off to the side, and I know that your pig(s) don't either.
But, I wish your pig the best, and I hope it has a long, happy, healthy life.
Good Bye.

[organicsab]

Well you obviously don't read my replies when I say that I don't have air-con and in summer they would cook being locked inside the house. It is illigal to have animals locked inside in summer if there is no air-con or windows open. Have you ever heard of padlocking the cage? I know a lot of people who've come here and gotten abused over the crappiest little things. You guys don't know me or where I live or anything. There was a time before c&c cages and not all guinea pigs just dropped dead. Hey, what if you left the stove on and your house burnt down? Or someone broke into your house and stole your piggies? What if a snake got inside the house and ate your piggie? Another thing you don't know about me, auburnmare5, is that I don't leave my piggies til I get around to it or when I get the time, they are not tossed to the side. I'm sure many people do that but you can't just assume that cuz they are housed outside they are neglected and will automatically die because they are not living inside in a c&c cage. Please come and live with me for a bit before you judge. Okay, maybe I wasn't meant to post a pic of the outdoor hutch, but I saw other people's outdoor hutches and permanent homes and they weren't obviously deleted. What about the pictures of them in their cosies? I posted it in the right section, and it got deleted. Same with a pic of keeping cool, it also got deleted. One of the photos in the outdoor section was of them in their run they go out on weekend, that also got deleted. You know what some people do? Read your forums for a laugh because it's so funny how you fire up at everyone for dumb reasons.

[hydrohoki]

Organicab,

Look at it this way, you have a very unique outdoor housing situation (since your in home situation gets so warm). However, any picture of a cage on this site is going to be considered a acceptable cage to some google-seeker. So many random people are going to search, see your cage and think "ooo I'll build one of those." These people will never know where you live, what your yard or living situation are like and will never ever read the thread that explains it.

I wouldn't take it so personally. The rules don't have much as to do with you as they do with the impressions of other people.

[Simonmaal]

Originally Posted by Chicapuff

Australia really doesnt have issues with dangerous animals unless you're in the outback maybe :P

Australia is home to the world's most venomous creatures. Sure, most live in the outback but there are many dangerous creatures known to live close to human residences; cats and dogs are the least of your worries!

For example, isn't Australia home to the funnel web spider, arguably the most vicious and dangerous spider in the world? And a spider that happens to be quite common in garages, sheds and yards? What if one of these creatures decided to set up home in your hutch? Your cavies would be dead in minutes.

Other smaller spiders such as the red back could enter the hutch even more easily than a funnel web. What about tiger snakes? The Australian brown snake? The white tailed spider? Disease carrying mosquitoes?

Admittedly all of these creatures can enter houses. But if they can overcome the difficulties associated with getting into your house, they will have absolutely no problem getting into your hutch. In the house, the risk would be reduced considerably.