The Anti-Pet Store Generalization - Page 3

**Project_C** · #41 02-13-07, 09:21 pm

[FONT=Times New Roman]Thank you thelestral, that post was calm, but to the point. I really think everyone here should calm down a bit, no matter what you are saying, and what your real intentions are, it really does sound hurtful. I've been bashed once, and trust me, it does not feel good. Now, if you want to help, be a little nicer, but still firm. A couple weeks ago I would have told you that PetCo is good, and changing that opinion took work, and was hard to accept. Don't be so hard on people that went their whole life believing in these stores, instead, show them. Tell them. Educate them. But do it without sounding so forceful. It's hard to change this fast, let alone be willing to accept that what you thought you knew all your life was wrong. Thanks, just my two cents.[/FONT]

**OSUCavies** · #42 02-13-07, 10:18 pm

It's hard to be nice or "educational" towards someone that does not seem like they want to learn.

**MCR_Rox** · #43 02-13-07, 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by OSUCavies

It's hard to be nice or "educational" towards someone that does not seem like they want to learn.

Maybe if you just give them time, and give them stuff to look at.

Here is a video of where pets come from:

YouTube - Pet Store Suppliers: Beyond the "waggily tail"

**OSUCavies** · #44 02-13-07, 10:24 pm

This isn't the only post she had gotten fiesty on.

She was already on the defensive side.

I think people that post here with the assumption of "getting flamed" are the ones that are going to take defense and be the first ones to flounce or either leave and never come back because they already think we're "rude" or hateful.

**MCR_Rox** · #45 02-13-07, 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by OSUCavies

This isn't the only post she had gotten fiesty on.

She was already on the defensive side.

I think people that post here with the assumption of "getting flamed" are the ones that are going to take defense and be the first ones to flounce or either leave and never come back because they already think we're "rude" or hateful.

Well let's just let her observe. Maybe after she's been on for a few weeks, she'll know what's wrong with pet stores.

**OSUCavies** · #46 02-13-07, 10:32 pm

I don't think it's fair that people automatically call this forum rude because we have great counterpoints and arguments We're supposed to grin and bear it whenever they bash our beliefs? It's hypocritical.

**MCR_Rox** · #47 02-13-07, 10:33 pm

Maybe if we just cage her?

**PookiesPiggies** · #48 02-13-07, 10:34 pm

Im just shaking my head over this. Two guinea pigs purchased from two different stores and neither of them employed people who didn't have the knowledge to let you know that if you put a male and female together, they are going to reproduce? Ok, so lets say they couldn't reproduce for two years, then what? I know when I adopted my first Guinea Pig, I was so excited, I went and found out every little bit of information about her that I could. Its called loving and caring for you pet. You have the internet available and looking now, I have not found one site that claims that Guinea Pigs wait two years to reproduce. Not one. You bought two Guinea Pigs from pet stores and got the wrong information which is what this site has been trying to prevent for years. Had you bought them and ended up with sick or dying pigs like some unlucky buyers have, you would be judging differently. I hope you find the right information to get your girl through this pregnancy alive and well along with her litter.
Had I been given the same information as you and my Guinea Pig ended up pregnant, knowing she could die from this, I sure wouldn't come on here singing how great petstores are. I'd be pretty damned pissed.

**OSUCavies** · #49 02-13-07, 10:34 pm

Eh, I doubt she'll even make any more posts.

However, flouncing causes people to get caged. And I know she did that a few times. So, I dunno.

**OSUCavies** · #50 02-13-07, 10:35 pm

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Originally Posted by PookiesPiggies

Im just shaking my head over this. Two guinea pigs purchased from two different stores and neither of them employed people who didn't have the knowledge to let you know that if you put a male and female together, they are going to reproduce? Ok, so lets say they couldn't reproduce for two years, then what? I know when I adopted my first Guinea Pig, I was so excited, I went and found out every little bit of information about her that I could. Its called loving and caring for you pet. You have the internet available and looking now, I have not found one site that claims that Guinea Pigs wait two years to reproduce. Not one. You bought two Guinea Pigs from pet stores and got the wrong information which is what this site has been trying to prevent for years. Had you bought them and ended up with sick or dying pigs like some unlucky buyers have, you would be judging differently. I hope you find the right information to get your girl through this pregnancy alive and well along with her litter.
Had I been given the same information as you and my Guinea Pig ended up pregnant, knowing she could die from this, I sure wouldn't come on here singing how great petstores are. I'd be pretty damned pissed.

Indeed.
I concur.

**Project_C** · #51 02-13-07, 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by OSUCavies

Indeed.
I concur.

[FONT=Times New Roman]Well, I do have to admit it makes sense. [/FONT]

**OSUCavies** · #52 02-13-07, 10:42 pm

I have 2 guinea pigs (the only 2 that I have) that both came from a petstore.

Both of them were sick and had mites and were not properly taken care of before they came into my home.

Of course I had no idea that this happened to others. I actually just assumed it was my luck.
After finding this website and reading all the horror stories, I will never buy a guinea pig EVER again. No animal for that matter.

And because of my bad experiences, if I had came on here going "Yeah I got 2 sick pigs from a petstore, and I'm gonna go back tomorrow and buy a few more, I just LOVE petstores!", then I'd be READY to get flamed a few times by some people because of how ignorant it sounded. Not to mention the fact that this website has PLENTY of references all around the forums that say that it is pro-rescue and anti-breeding. Cmon now.

**rabbitsncavyluv** · #53 02-13-07, 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by OSUCavies

WHAT? You think a RESCUE guinea pig has more of a chance at being sick as compared to a PETSTORE pig that has been in a disgusting BREEDING cage?!

Ignorance. Pure ignorance.

Amazing isn't it. I must have imagined the call from a lady who bought a pig from URI from Petstupid last week and the lady who brought another pig from Petco with URI to our event this weekend, and all those sick Christmas pet store pigs with URI and mites and pregnant.

**VoodooJoint** · #54 02-13-07, 10:53 pm

I personally don't think anyone overreacted. Gemstone got upset with the forum by her second post when she was warmly welcomed, offered sound and polite advice and gently reminded by the mods why she must use proper capitalization on the forum--after she boldly stated she was not going to do so. Read her introduction thread. She never even got an impaction from us even though she could have. I can't imagine the drama it would have caused if she did get infracted.

She then posted on an established thread and even started a brand new thread about how mean we were to dislike petstores. She did this knowing what this site was about.

She was offered valid arguments and in response she started to swing wildly, the responses got tougher.

No one who responded to her did anything wrong. She was given every chance and I have a feeling, though she may never come back here and admit it, that her opinion of petshops will soon change. After all, she is soon to face the daunting responsibility of animal reproduction.

Wherever she is I hope she at least lurks and gets some advice. Everthing she could want to know can be searched out on the forums (there are few new/unanswered questions). This is why we never ban IPs and sometimes have to deal with returning banned members. We WANT people to improve their animals' lives whether they agree with our pro-rescue/pro-welfare stance or not. All we ask is that they not benefit from all the free advice they get and then turn around and call us big bad meanies.

**rabbitsncavyluv** · #55 02-13-07, 10:54 pm

Landhermie - I didn't see any bashing. Just questions when she said she had a breeding pair and started touting pet stores as great.

And re:

If you think they are hard on you on this forum and because you bought unaltered GP's from a petstore, try WORKING for a pet store and posting on here and Guinealynx!! I work for Petco (for now) and have taking a much bigger beating than you have. This site and Guinealynx are pro-rescue and anti-pet store period.

No one gets bashed because they bought a pet store pig if they didn't know any better. It's when you knew about adopting but decided to go to the corner pet store instead is the issue - and then buying another opposite sexed pig to breed them - is another one.

**OSUCavies** · #56 02-13-07, 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by rabbitsncavyluv

Amazing isn't it. I must have imagined the call from a lady who bought a pig from URI from Petstupid last week and the lady who brought another pig from Petco with URI to our event this weekend, and all those sick Christmas pet store pigs with URI and mites and pregnant.

I guess it just happened to be a COINCIDENCE.

</sarcasm>
:rolleyes:

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