Eggs & milk

[dona83]

Might be an obvious answer but are free-range chickens for eggs treated good? I mean obviously they are treated better than chickens for mass-produced eggs, but I think they gotta be treated good, period. How about milk? Do the cows used to make organic milk get treated good as well? Well I found one, Horizon Organic Dairy, says their cows are treated with respect, dignity, fed 100% organic food, and not giving anti biotics or growth hormones. anyone actually see these farms for themselves?

Well my fiancee's also on board too, I told her about it and she told me to show her the videos and now she's convinced that she wants to join me in becoming vegetarian...

Lots of questions but I just gotta make sure I got everything down pat because just as i quit smoking cold turkey after years of trying, I want to make sure my journey into vegetarianism is realistic and sustainable.

[Piglet]

Yes, on the egg carton of free range egg's it is always said that the chickens are treated well - they have time to walk about etc. We buy organic free range eggs. I'm not sure about milk though. We buy organic milk, but I don't know if that means that cows are treated well. I always though organic meant that the animals are not fed anything bad.

[stipma]

Originally Posted by dona83

Lots of questions but I just gotta make sure I got everything down pat because just as i quit smoking cold turkey after years of trying, I want to make sure my journey into vegetarianism is realistic and sustainable.

Congrats! I also quit smoking 7 months ago cold turkey after having smoked for 20 years

[dona83]

Originally Posted by Piglet

I'm not sure about milk though. We buy organic milk, but I don't know if that means that cows are treated well. I always though organic meant that the animals are not fed anything bad.

Horizon Dairy says that their cows are treated with dignity and respect and milked 3 times a day simply to relieve stress from milk buildup. They also have a two stage program for treating sick animals, vitamins and extra servings of healthy food in a relaxing environment in the first stage, and antibiotics in the second stage, but in the case of the second stage the cows don't get returned to the milking herd.

Do cows only produce milk for their offspring or do they pretty much produce them all the time?

[dona83]

Originally Posted by cangirl

Congrats! I also quit smoking 7 months ago cold turkey after having smoked for 20 years

Congrats to you too! Yah I started in 1999 when I was 16 (boo me) and actually I did pause in 2001 for a whole year, started again, and finally after trying since the very start of school semester (school semesters are not really the best time to quit smoking! The agony!), I've been smoke free since the beginning of the semester... 3 months and counting!

[Slap Maxwell]

Good for you! I personally go with Soy Milk. I dislike it, but I feel better drinking it (The organic kind tastes nasty) and I only eat the free range eggs. I don't eat meat of fish, either.

Your making a good choice.

[AngelsCavies]

My husband quit smoking cold turkey when I first met him. I told him that I will not kiss, date or marry a smoker. He smoked since he was 13 years old and quit when he was 24. He had been smoking for 11 years. Im so glad that he quit.

[stipma]

Originally Posted by dona83

Congrats to you too!

Thank you =) I started when I was 13 in about 1984 (I'm 33 now) and quit in September. I tried going on the patch but proved to be allergic to the glue so cold turkey it is. So far, so good.

[vegan]

[font=Arial]http://www.cok.net/lit/freerange.php here you go the myth about free range[/font]

[laura220]

Actually the free-range chickens aren't really treated that much better. They are kept in a low roofed badly ventilated building. There are so many cramed together they really can't move at all. When they're caught, they're clubbed.

I don't eat eggs at all any more unless they're in baking.

[dona83]

Yea I read about that... unfortunate... I'm gonna cut down on eggs drastically -- use "egg" whites whenever possible, and just eat eggs whenever I have the once in awhile cravings. With milk, I can substitute with soy milk with everything except for a few things I cook. I'm Asian [but born and raised here] so I already liked soy milk in the first place, way before it ever became popular in North America -- give me Sun Rise brand over Silk brand anyday, if you've never tried Sun Rise you don't know what you're missing.

[Sabriel]

I prefer So Good. But I'm not sure if you can get that outside of Canada. I think it's yummier then regular milk. Give me vanilla soy milk and Special K any day Lots of iron in that combo.

[Rachy1412]

If the chicken are kept in buildings they are not free range.. they are barn eggs.

[vegan]

Originally Posted by dona83

Yea I read about that... unfortunate... I'm gonna cut down on eggs drastically -- use "egg" whites whenever possible, and just eat eggs whenever I have the once in awhile cravings. With milk, I can substitute with soy milk with everything except for a few things I cook. I'm Asian [but born and raised here] so I already liked soy milk in the first place, way before it ever became popular in North America -- give me Sun Rise brand over Silk brand anyday, if you've never tried Sun Rise you don't know what you're missing.

Eggs whites, you need double triple the eggs so it kills double triple the birds

[vegan]

Originally Posted by laura220

Actually the free-range chickens aren't really treated that much better. They are kept in a low roofed badly ventilated building. There are so many cramed together they really can't move at all. When they're caught, they're clubbed.

I don't eat eggs at all any more unless they're in baking.

Whats the difference. You eat eggs, except their baked.

[Piglet]

Well on my eggs carton, it says they are free range. You can get barn eggs. The free range chickens are definately treated better.

[carly]

free-range is just a pretty label.
the animals are not actually treated any better, all it means is that they get a TINY bit of extra room but not even enough to improve their conditions.

i don't eat eggs anymore, & i try to stay clear of milk.. sometimes i get a craving for cups of tea, so i'll add a little bit of milk.. but thats purely because i can't stand soya milk.

[Sabriel]

Some people have problems finding baked goods without eggs. At least they are trying.