I very proud am to say these have been made illegal in all but on Australian state!
One step closer in the fight for animal rights. I spend long time protesting this so very excited that Australia allow not it.
What are laws on these procedures where you live?
Go Australia!
In Minnesota, USA I'm sad to say many people still practice docking and declawingbut I've never heard of teeth pulling. What is the reasoning for pulling teeth?
What really gets me is the "latest craze" with dog owners of debarking surgery. To me this is so wrong on many levels. Why get a dog then?
I didn't even know they had that! UGH That is just so CRUELOriginally Posted by Katrinah
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This is a great article on the issues of declawing, docking, debarking and cropping. I was happy to read some states are looking to making debarking illegal. While I dont agree with the others as well, the debarking to me seems so very cruel as it takes away the animals voice and ability to express themself. So very very very wrong.
Cosmetic Surgery for Dogs and Cats
When I was a foster Mom for a dog rescue group I adopted one of my fosters, a little toy fox terrier. She didn't have her tail docked and to me she always looked cuter with her full tail wagging.
I don't understand it. The same with some breeds of dogs getting their ears clipped. Why??
So sad. Make me
Cropping and debarking illegal here too!
UGH! Debarking is so wrong. When I was little we had a neighbor who debarked her huskey. Poor thing. Then she called the cops everytime she heard our dog bark. It was awful, my mom ended up having to send our dog to live with my grandparents because of it. She was the most evil person I ever hope to meet in my life.
I hate animal cruelty! Sadly in Illinois it is still legal!
I want to be a vet when I get older but any one asked me to do any of this stuff I would move to a different office!!!!!!!!
DEBARKING!? What the heck!? How are the supposed to communicate? Can they still whine? What if they get hurt? What if they try to chase away a robber or something! Oh my gosh! That is TERRIBLE!
Exatly!
Say, Bad case scenario. The dog gets attacked(Or something of the like), How is the poor thing going to get help? ESPECIALLY small dogs, Many dogs are too small/weak to defend themselves when a very large dog comes along angry!?!
Oh, yes, they still make noise, some of them, nearly constantly. It's just a wheezing kind of noise that they make instead of a full bark. A really pathetic kind of sound, but a sound.
Dogs are generally more effective communicating by doing things other than barking, particularly because for the kind of dog who is barking enough for someone to think of debarking. (Unless, of course, the dog is a kennel dog who has an owner who is not interested in hearing what it has to "say" anyhow, which happens a lot.)
A small dog shouldn't be put in a position where it has to try to defend itself from anything or ask for help doing so, whether or not it can bark. It's not going to do a Yorkie any good to be able to bark if it's being carried off by a coyote or hawk, which does indeed happen.
Docking is the only procedure allowed right now. Devocalization has always been prohibited in my state and declawing has just been prohibited as well, after long years of judicial fighting! I have never heard of teeth pulling, which is great!
Sad thing is that most people cut their dogs' tails at home. The maid here in the school I work cuts them with GARDEN SCISSOR, because "they don't feel it when they are babies, it is not a live part of the body"!
It's hard for me to see many people think like that around here. It's the same about kitties. People have unwanted littersand throw them in a plastic bag in the river, also because "they don't feel pain when they are babies". I don't know where people get those ideas from...
The UK is pretty good on this. Declawing, ear cropping, tooth pulling and debarking have all been illegal for years.
Docking is now mostly banned, the only exception is "working" dogs. To qualify the dogs must be of a certain working breed (eg terriers and spaniels) and the breeder must give evidence that the pups are intended for working homes (eg the parent dogs work, gun licence etc).
It is also illegal to show docked dogs - so the show breeders don't bother to dock under the guise of "working" as the pups can then not be shown.
DalesLass (02-25-10)
why would you pull dogs teeth? I mean I am assuming that they are pulling all teeth right? And not for medical issues. I have a dog that has a docked tail and one that doesn't. I dont understand the docking of tails and ears. Now do you consider getting dew claws removed as bad then?
A debarked dog is not silent. It usually is capable of making the most pathetic noise you're likely to ever hear. I don't agree with it, but there are a lot of public misconceptions about the procedure. It doesn't "remove the vocal cords" or "take out the voice box". It literally cuts a hole in the vocal cords, so they cannot produce a loud bark. Like I said, I don't agree with it, but I don't like to see even things I don't agree with misrepresented.
I think that if a dog is working in the capacity for which it was bred, and docking the tail lessens the risk of injury, I don't have an issue with it so long as it is done properly (i.e, under annesthesia). I don't at all agree with docking for cosmetic reasons, or with cropping ears, or with declawing cats.
For some dogs it is needed to remove dewclaws. Spindly-legged dogs like greyhounds, whippets, ect get them caught. Now, unlike tails with docking, I know that this happens. It happened to my friend's dog. I can't remember how it happened, but one of his dew claws got ripped out by getting caught. Although, it they have furry legs or 'fatter' legs its not needed, in my opinion. We have one dog that we got from a pet store (shame, shame) already had hers removed, and her tail docked. :'( It left some nasty, nasty scars. But I'm nearly positive that a pet store will not remove them as well as a qualified vet!
Chances are good that the petstore didn't remove them themselves-- the backyard breeder or puppy mill likely did.
I agree with you on dewclaws (which is different from DEclawing). I have seen them get ripped off or at least torn in a painful manner.
Oh, whoops, didn't even notice. I meant that even at best if they brought them to some sort of 'vet'. It would be in mass, and they cheapest around. But, you're most likely right. It was probably done at the mills. Gosh, I can't believe I supported that. But, Toots is my sweetheart! I couldn't imagine anything different!
Edit: about dewclaws. They also serve no purpose. So removing them is purely helping (unless that have bigger legs, like I said. My goldens have zero problems with them!) As long as a good vet does it!
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