HAWK, drops guinea pig in someone's yard - Page 3

**CuteFluffyThing** · #41 08-26-05, 01:51 am

Due to my opinions on outdoor runs i know i am disliked by many but my area is not (yet)populated by predators

**ILovePiggies** · #42 08-26-05, 01:41 pm

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Originally Posted by CuteFluffyThing

Due to my opinions on outdoor runs i know i am disliked by many but my area is not (yet)populated by predators

~Aw what do you mean you're disliked by many?!! You're not disliked your cool! I think you're cool!

:b

**The Magic Taco** · #43 08-26-05, 07:07 pm

Hey, Cutefluffything, where do you live? Because in Australia, guinea pigs are more outdoor pets as someone said (it may have been this thread or another).

**StasiaJ26** · #44 09-02-05, 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Piglet

Did I just read that correctly? You shoot the cat in it's head. Holy cow, and what you're only 13? I have always thought there are still wild guinea pigs, just not here (UK, North America).

In my area (Michigan, US) this is perfectly legal. Infact if an animal wild or domestic harms our herd (I breed piggies & rabbits) we can shoot them and sue the owner for the replacement costs of the animals, property destroyed and any money we lost. So far I've been lucky.~Stasia

**mom to cujo** · #45 09-03-05, 06:00 am

No, actually your animals have been lucky. What good would come out of shooting the offending animal and sueing it's owner? YOUR animal(s) would still have been injured or killed and suffered a terrifying experience. So you can sue and collect money from the attacker's owner? No matter what you gained in a lawsuit, it couldn't repair the damage done. And it couldn't replace your animal.

**StasiaJ26** · #46 09-03-05, 11:49 am

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Originally Posted by mom to cujo

No, actually your animals have been lucky. What good would come out of shooting the offending animal and sueing it's owner? YOUR animal(s) would still have been injured or killed and suffered a terrifying experience. So you can sue and collect money from the attacker's owner? No matter what you gained in a lawsuit, it couldn't repair the damage done. And it couldn't replace your animal.

I could only see sueing if you have a large-scale such as a dairy farmer. In my barn & house we have a small herd and get attached.

weaseldropping · #47 09-10-05, 10:19 am

Keeping cats inside, without a medical necessity, is just cruel.
They are natural predators, and kill because that is what they do.
We keep "prey" as pets, and it is our responsibility to keep them safe from predators. This does not need to mean "kill all cats". I have a cat. He kills things. Sometimes he eats them, sometimes he doesn't. That is what cats do. I make sure that he NEVER has a chance at my pigs, and he makes sure my cages are cat proof.

I cannot believe that someone lets a child so young have a weapon of any sort, let alone lets them kill animals. Is this the way things are going to be?

Am too incensed to write more.

piggiepigs · #48 09-14-05, 11:27 am

I too think it is mean for keeping cats inside. Shortly after my boyfriend moved in with me his cat got knocked over. It was very sad but we know he had a good time being free before hand.

Back onto the subject of a hawk dropping a guinea pig into someones garden. How scary is that!? Im not sure if we have any massive birds in england but I keep an eye on my piggies as I wouldnt want cats getting to them! x

weaseldropping · #49 09-14-05, 11:58 am

Watch out, Piggiespigs, there's kestrels about!
My husband found a decapitated pigeon in our back garden, and had a right go at the cat about it. The cat sat there, looking all injured innocence as my husband bunged the body over the hedge onto some wasteland. The cat them went absolutely ballistic when he saw a full-grown kestrel land in the middle of the lawn, and proceed to march up and down saying "I know I left it here somewhere..." She hung aroung for about 20 mins, rooting around in the flower beds, and the cat going mad on our side of the patio doors didn't seem to bother her at all. In the end she gave it up as a bad job... but if the pigs had not had a very sturdy run with a roof it could have been very different.

**Sabriel** · #50 09-14-05, 12:34 pm

I have indoor cats and they are quite happy. I don't have to worry about them getting run over or hurt by a dog. Both my cats have always been indoor cats. They sleep, eat, groom each other and hunt fleece scraps, yarn, toys and the occasional bug that gets in our house.

weaseldropping · #51 09-14-05, 12:43 pm

A lot depends on the cat. Our last moggie, Henry, had been badly beaten and would only go out if he was on a lead, or if he was carried like a baby. Charlie, however, lives on the wild side and has learnt that if he wants to go out and I think it is too late/snowy/wet/silly he just has to stick his canines into my achilles tendon and he often gets put out straight away. Nice cat!

**Sabriel** · #52 09-14-05, 01:01 pm

My little kitty has a wild side too. We just give her lots of toys and a 5' cat scratch to tear apart. She spends a lot of time running up and down it. Especially if the top is occupied. She knows if she bugs Shampoo, my big kitty enough, she'll leave, and then she can sleep at the top and swat at our faces when we walk by. She also uses it as a boarding area for my husband's shoulder. Or she'll jut climb up him like a tree.

weaseldropping · #53 09-14-05, 01:09 pm

We know Charlie hates being an indoor cat - he had to have an eye op two years ago and had to be kept in for three weeks whilst it healed - we had to put him into the cattery in the end because no-one was getting any sleep. He just sat in front of the front door and howled and wailed non-stop for two days and three nights. He had a "lampshade" on his head and was very wobbly with the medication, but he wanted to be outside, and NOW!!!!! He is nearly 10 now, and is slowing down a bit, but still brings home something mangled most days. I never put out wild bird food - it is just a cheap way of feeding the cat.

Anyone know what the round glistening bit of a thush's insides is? About 1 cm across and sort of pink... he always leaves that bit for me to pour boiling water on to cook it first. We are very well trained cat-owners!

**Sabriel** · #54 09-14-05, 02:13 pm

I think it's best to make them housecats from the start. I agree that it would be cruel to bring him in the house all the time now, but every cat I get will be a housecat. I couldn't imagine Shampoo the Slow and Large doing to well outdoors.

weaseldropping · #55 09-14-05, 02:34 pm

I think you are are right - if they are going be indoor cats it's best to either start with kittens so they know no different.

True the ideals of this forum, all ours have been adopted cats, and you kind of get what you're given with them! Charlie is a real tomcat (despite having the op at an early age) and flips from being a big fluffy loveball to a savage killing machine in a split second. Thanks to reading a whole library section on cat behaviour I can tell what he's thinking most of the time, but prior to that I lost the full use of both little fingers - one accidental when I misread his mood, and the other a deliberate attack on me when he had the stitches out from the eye op. He made a terrible mess of my hand with his teeth! He did try to lick it better when he realised what he'd done, but that didn't help very much. I think that if I coul dhave driven the car that day, he'd have been straight to the RSPCA Shelter! Our vet saw me two days later and couldn't believe we kep him! It was two weeks before I could hold the steering wheel and it will never fully straighten again.

That's cats for you - can't live with them, can't live without them! He is the only one who could tell when my son was going to have a seizure, and twice warned us sufficiently far in advance that we could head the fit off at the pass and save an ambulance journey. I guess that's why we still have him!

**Sabriel** · #56 09-14-05, 02:41 pm

I adopted Shampoo as well, but I had to sign a contract to keep her an indoor cat. She was two when we adopted her.

Shampoo is a worry wort and very fussy. She gave herself a hernia when they spayed her. (or so says the medical history booklet I got with er)

weaseldropping · #57 09-14-05, 02:47 pm

Yuck!!

I noticed at the sheter when we collected Flash and Jonny that several of the cats were indoor-onlies.
I must admit it would save a lot of vet's bills, and in Charlie's case we could have avoided recarpeting the whole of the landing and stairs - an abcess burst and we just could not get the green stains and the smell out. It was disgusting, and left a 4" hole in his chest. Every other time we have spotted the abcess before it burst and got him to the vets before it was a problem, but this was in his chest and along his belly - about a pint in all - and no-one goes near his belly!!!

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