Help My Guinea Pigs Are Being Attacked!!!!! Help!!!

[rabbitsncavyluv]

You're a breeder? Enough said.

[GuineaPIGGIES<3]

Think about whats best for your piggies and its not living outdoors.

[Toadies]

Well said, Paula!

[Ly&Pigs]

I don't get why people have to dredge up old threads where the original poster hasn't been active on the forum in well over a year and think they are adding value to the post.

I think what we've learned from tk-421's post is that breeders don't share the same mentality as we do and that this particular breeder has no true feelings for his/her pigs if they are keeping them outside and have been breeding them for 15 years. I wonder how many pigs this person has added to the already huge overpopulation problem over the years.

[molloopsy]

I honestly don't think it is soo bad for them to be outside if you live in CALIFORNIA. I don't live there but I don't think it gets to cold and with shade cold water bottles and juicy veggies they should be fine!

I think that you should try talking with your neighbors again and putting some fencing around your piggies cage.

BTW No one seems to realize even though an animal in domesticated it is still an animal. They can still have survival instincts.

[Ly&Pigs]

Originally Posted by molloopsy

I honestly don't think it is soo bad for them to be outside if you live in CALIFORNIA. I don't live there but I don't think it gets to cold and with shade cold water bottles and juicy veggies they should be fine!

I think that you should try talking with your neighbors again and putting some fencing around your piggies cage.

BTW No one seems to realize even though an animal in domesticated it is still an animal. They can still have survival instincts.

Here is a prime example of what I was just talking about. Again, the original poster has not been on the forum at all since December of 08.

And you molloopsy, have no clue about proper care.

Don't reply to the ORIGINAL post. It's old, it's dead. Leave it alone.

[Paula]

Originally Posted by molloopsy

I honestly don't think it is soo bad for them to be outside if you live in CALIFORNIA.

I'm sorry, but your opinion on the matter is really of painfully little significance. But while we're at it, it gets entirely too hot in CALIFORNIA to have a guinea pig living outside.

Originally Posted by molloopsy

I don't live there

And yet you feel compelled to share your opinion on the matter. Ugh, no thanks.

Originally Posted by molloopsy

BTW No one seems to realize even though an animal in domesticated it is still an animal. They can still have survival instincts.

BTW you seem not to realize that you haven't the slightest idea what guinea pig care might be, evidenced by your plethora of other posts here and yet for reasons unknown to me you still feel compelled to share an opinion on this matter that's more or less been dead and buried for months now.

[Peggysu]

Originally Posted by molloopsy

I honestly don't think it is soo bad for them to be outside if you live in CALIFORNIA. I don't live there but I don't think it gets to cold and with shade cold water bottles and juicy veggies they should be fine!

I think that you should try talking with your neighbors again and putting some fencing around your piggies cage.

BTW No one seems to realize even though an animal in domesticated it is still an animal. They can still have survival instincts.

Since you don't live in California you obviously have no idea that it is not ideal to house a guinea pig outside. It is cold and hot here. If you can't control the temperature then they shouldn't be housed there. My dog is housed indoors for goodness sake.

Animals do have survival instincts, except when they are in a small little cage outside they have limited options of where to hide and they can't protect themselves.

Please do your animals some good and do a little more research on proper housing and care.

[Jaybird!889]

Originally Posted by molloopsy

I honestly don't think it is soo bad for them to be outside if you live in CALIFORNIA. I don't live there but I don't think it gets to cold and with shade cold water bottles and juicy veggies they should be fine!

I think that you should try talking with your neighbors again and putting some fencing around your piggies cage.

BTW No one seems to realize even though an animal in domesticated it is still an animal. They can still have survival instincts.

It is not okay for a piggie to be housed outside; even in California. California whether is very weird and never stays the same. Some places in California are cool and all that but from day to day the weather can change drastically; it can go from cool to hot in a matter of hours. What would you do if you were at work and the weather changed?

Also, depending on where you live it can be extremely hot getting up to 110 degrees and no animal could survive very long in that. My dog very rarely goes out in the summer either.

Also, in certain places in California there are rattle snakes and other dangerous animals; how do you keep the piggies safe from that?

Animals do have survival instincts but if they are domesticated and used to living in a cage and what not those survival instincts are not going to be as strong as an undomesticated animal.

If the piggie is in a cage and a predator comes they can only do so much running/hiding before there is no where else to go.

[Piggie Problems]

People you seriously have to get over the fact that some people keep their pigs outdoors. We all have a legal responsibility to look after our pets and some peoples views are different to others. as long the the animals are not suffering, or being neglected and getting what they need then what does it matter? Most hutches are designed to be predator proof!

[Wodentoad]

I will preface this with, this is a year old thread. I know that, I'm sorry, but the "predator proof" thing upsets me. Here's why:

I'm terrified of a slithering snake. I can look at most pictures and am fine, but something about the motion triggers a phobic response. This being said, snakes are such a big danger! I saw photos of a snake crawling up a "Snake Proof" squirrel feeder for a lovely snack. Snakes are cunning and smart, and it only takes a tiny tiny hole. NO hutch outside is predator proof.

[momof1kid3piggi]

Okay If you people cant read I thought Ly said this thread was DEAD!

[rabbitsncavyluv]

Hutches are built for us - not the pets' comfort. If you take a good look at most, they are pretty easy to open and not predator proof. Raccoons and such can open them pretty easily. And look http://www.guinealynx.info/housing.html scroll down to the hutch.

Did you miss the first post of this thread that stated the OP's guinea pigs were being killed by an outdoor predator? Yet you say this is still safe??

You have not had pigs before and you bought yours from a pet shop just last week. Yet you are now an expert?

[Piggie Problems]

No i have not owned a guinea pig before, but i have lived with people who own them, worked with them, and grown up with them. So the only difference now is that they are my responsibility.

[Paula]

Originally Posted by Piggie Problems

So the only difference now is that they are my responsibility.

Which is quite unfortunate for the guinea pigs, I'd say, since you can't be bothered to house them in an environment that's safe and protected from the elements.

[Ly&Pigs]

Piggie Problems, I think your view is pretty scewed due to the fact that you are still so young (sorry can't and won't post your age but I know your age and if you post it, you will get infracted). Many people your age are more about themselves and what they want than being truly responsible. I have seen members your age that have embraced how to care for their pigs properly and I've seen members your age who want to do things properly but have parents who just don't get it. In your case, you just don't get it. I hope your views change as you get older.

I am not going to waste my time arguing with someone who is not willing to listen and doesn't care if their pigs are not properly cared for.

Originally Posted by momof1kid3piggi

I thought Ly said this thread was DEAD!

I did but it seems I was ignored. Sometimes it's like beating a dead horse so to speak. Sometimes I also feel like beating my head against a brick wall or someone else's when I get to a certain level of frustration.

[rabbitsncavyluv]

Sorry - Piggie P bumped it up for some reason and I felt compelled to reply.

[Ly&Pigs]

It's all Paula fault, . She replied to molloopsy after I said to leave it alone and it's gone on from there. Then I'll blame Piggie Problems for dredging it up once again.

Maybe I should forget the dead horse and just beat on Paula instead.

Paula you know I'm just having a moment of fun and trying to ease some of this abundance of frustration a couple of members have heaped on me today.

I even used smilies, look out!

[VoodooJoint]

Can I help beat on Paula too? She was never properly hazed after all.

[Ly&Pigs]

Originally Posted by VoodooJoint

Can I help beat on Paula too? She was never properly hazed after all.

Absolutively. We can always tie her to a chair and gag her before we beat on her, hehe.