Help My Guinea Pigs Are Being Attacked!!!!! Help!!!

[Haley0489]

Originally Posted by Treauremapper

My idea would be to install a dog kennel around the hutch. One of those chain link wire kennels with a door, so that the kennel sits in the center. The entire structure would need to have a roof or be in a porch with a roof. If it is strong enough to prevent dogs from getting out, it should be strong enough to prevent a cat from getting in.

But, sadly, sometimes it is better to rehome a guinea pig.

Originally Posted by Simmonkey

My father is allergic to rabbit urine. He almost died once a while back, when I had a rabbit. But I would put a sterdy top on the cage. ANd then put a cage withen a cage

A cage within a cage doesn't stop snakes, mice, and other small animals from entering the cage and harming your pig. Nor does it keep them cool in the summer or warm in the winter.

Guinea pigs shouldn't be housed outside, period!

[Simmonkey]

most balls around the stables, no snakes. Lemon spray (pet save and not to close to the cage of course) no spiders, mice, what the crap is a mouse going to do besides eat his food? :P My main consern is the dogs. and we fixed that. My mom mad me put him into a pet store cage and I felt bad so I had o find a new envrament for him. And I did. Pigs can be housed outside. In the wild where do you think they live?

[Haley0489]

Mice carry disease, maybe you missed all the posts VJ posted at the beginning of this thread. And what about the weather? Does it rain where you live? Does it snow? Does it get cold? Hot? Is it windy? This isn't ideal living conditions of a guinea pig, and the guinea pigs that we know and love are NOT like the ones in the wild. I find it very hard to believe you don't have snakes or spiders in the country. Got ants? I'm sure the guinea pig will love having ants in his pen.

If you don't want him in a petstore cage you should put him in a C&C in your home.

Originally Posted by VoodooJoint

Dangers of Outdoor Housing
UK GP housed outside dies of heatstroke
GPs stolen from outdoor cage
2 GPs in outdoor cage killed by dog (on Animal Precinct)
HAWK, drops guinea pig in someone's yard
Violent thugs batter family pets to death
Thread about people breaking into outdoor hutches and sheds
2 guinea pigs stolen from outdoor shed
Guinea pig attacked by rats in shed
Magpies attacking GPs in their outdoor hutches
4 GPs dead. Cause is a suspected mouse infestation in shed and garden
Ant infested yard and hutches
Warning for those keeping animals outside
Guinea pigs stolen from "Cavy Sanctuary"
GPs stolen from outdoor garden
More Guinea pigs die of heatstroke
Guinea Pig Killed by Cat

Summer is Coming. Should You House Your GP Outside?
Outdoor vs Indoor

[Simmonkey]

I can't! my mom also wanted me to give him away for health issues! Moth balls keep the snakes away. No thugs! Tottaly prrotected from cats, dogs, and all flying animals. Maby you missed the part about "In a Stable" its not like its out in the open for him to be rained on and snowed on (not that it snows here very often) As for ants, we are putting sugar and fire ant killers around the stables as we speak. If the weather gets to rough we bring him in.

[VoodooJoint]

Simmonkey - Watch your step. You are starting to walk on very thin ice. Your language and attitude is starting to cross the line of what is accepted around here.

I suggest you do a TON more research before you seriously harm your pet. Do some research on the diseases mice and rats can spread as well as the damage they can do to a pet.

Do you honestly think you have no spiders?

I'm starting to think you are just here to cause a little trouble. If you don't start acting and posting rationally then you will end up forcing us to have to show you the door.

[Toadies]

Guinea pigs are not livestock or a commodity! They are sweet, fragile, helpless creatures that, if you're going to have them, deserve a place in the house! If that is not possible, for whatever reason, then it would be loving to find them a place that can accomodate their special needs. You have to love them more than what you want. You have to love them enough to do what's best for them.

[Simmonkey]

I have no more comments on the matter.

[RainKindle]

Mice carry diseases that can be deadly to pets. That's how we lost my brother's iguana at my old place.

Our pampered iguana was kept inside of course, (we live in Minnesota.) which is also partly why the mice wanted in so badly. We discovered, too late, that mice were sneaking inside the iguana cage to get at the iguana's pellets. The mice carried diseases that the iguana could not fight, and that is how we lost her.
Shortly afterwards, mom got a cat, because the cat smell kept out the field mice.
I still have my cat, she is a senior cat now living out her comfortable life. Mom's cat shares her home with my guinea pig and an additional cat.
My guinea pig lives with me comfortably in the basement in a cat proof capable home just in case, while the cats have free reign of the upstairs.
Ever since I started volunteering with adoptable rabbits, I've discovered that I may be allergic to the timothy hay. Therefore I simply take generic zyrtec or generic claritin. I was not going to give up my guinea over a mere allergy.
Also, my sweetheart happens to be very allergic to pet dander. When he mentioned that he wanted pets in our future and I asked him how that would work due to his allergies, he said, "I will get the allergy shots."
I have since come to the conclusion that if I were ever so extremely allergic to anything that I am not willing to give up, such as a pet that I've taken on the responsibility to care for, that I will get allergy shots as well.

[Res Judicata]

Besides, if someone in the house has a deadly allergy to something, it is not going to be kept anywhere in the home or on the property. Have some common sense. If my pets, whom I love like my own children, were going to cause a fatal reaction to someone in my family there would be no question of what to do. Unfortunately the pet would have to go to a different loving home.

I have never in my life heard of allergies to pets being deadly enough to kill people, although it is possible to have anaphlylatic responses to anything, such a reaction is very rare, and occurs mostly with foods, insect stings, medicines, and horse serum (used in tetanus shots). See a pattern here? Most of these things are items that actually enter the body and end up in the blood stream, not that are inhaled or touched. Inhalation anaphylaxis is a very rare form of a very rare reaction, and the vast majority of touch-induced anaphylaxis is due to peanuts and tree nuts because of the oil. The mere smell of it can also put some allergic people into shock. I doubt very much that in the highly unlikely event that someone is deadly allergic to rabbit urine that putting the rabbit in any area that could be accessed by the severely allergic person (which would include the backyard or the garage) would solve the problem.

[lmarieaa]

I agree, you should find your guinea pigs a new home. Keeping them the way you are now is very unhealthy and dangerous. If you have allergies that are so unbearable because of your guinea pigs, thus forcing you to put them in such a bad circumstance outside then they really need a new indoor home. I think its selfish to keep the pigs like that rather than finding them a permanent indoor home because your merely keeping them for your interest only (which still makes no sense because apparently they are toxic for your allergies) and the interests of the animals have been thrown out.

[hueyeats]

I think if OP insists on keeping them outside, OP would be more humane to re-home your pigs.

I do not think it would be fun for them (piggies) when they have to live in constant fear of being food to that cat or some other animals. I do not think as a human you would enjoy living in constant fear of losing your life (eg. when you live in a crime filled neighbourhood where you run the chances of being shot at)... your piggies won't enjoy that too (even if they have unlimited supplies of food; without life & safty, what is the use of food?).

Re-homing would also be more humane of a treatment to your dog & your neighbour's cat (so you do not have to spray at it or leave your dog to freeze; which I am also sure that your poor piggies are freezing too as they like human temperature zones).

Yeah, rehome your pigs if you cannot have them inhouse... best option.

[5guinea5pig5]

Why would you keep them if you're allergic to them? How did they get free time? I just don't get how members of this forums after being on it and knowing what we're like keep them outside! Personally, I think that they are just trying to cause trouble because they know that we don't like keeping our guinea pigs outside 24/7. If you loved them then you'd know what's best for them and know that that means give them a nice comfty home where they can be love all the time.

[hueyeats]

Originally Posted by tantrixfafa

Hear hear! to aqh88.



Now would you call a mother who takes a toddler in the car with her a bad mother? Technically she is doing the same. But no one would fall all over her for doing so.

No she is not technically doing the same.
Now a mom who would "house" the toddler in a car (without her too living in it like in an RV)... that person for the most part would just be asking for "jail-time" big time!

BUT
if you the pig parent would camp OUTSIDE with your pig... then I would see it as an equal of human's insight into a pig brains that they actually enjoy living outside like you do.

I do think all should be fair for both humans & their pets they chose to have.

NOT
because I live inside, I could still justify housing a piggie out as just as comfy when I am living inside comfortably! That is NOT practicing what you yourself preach!

[Caviekisses]

I feel stupid for asking this but... Have you tried giving them a bath? Also, if you have Asthma the last bedding you would want to use is Carefresh. Something like Cell-Sorb or Yesterday's News would be much better... Works great and also absorbs odors very well.

[deborahtucker]

This is why I got my girls. Their previous owner was allergic. They are spoiled rotten. Currently expanding to 3x7 c&c

[Tserisa]

"Allergies" to urine could be hypersensitivity pneumonitis, rather than allergies. Which is indeed deadly. It is the same autoimmune reaction which causes houses with mold to be condemned.

I used to keep many birds. My mom got birdkeeper's lung -- hypersensitivity pneumonitis in reaction to proteins in bird feathers and dander. She also reacted to rat urine.

I did not put my birds outside.

I rehomed most of them -- and I still cry about it to this day, it was heart-wrenching -- and then moved out with my beloved African grey. I moved into a single room apartment in someone's house in the middle of nowhere, because that was all I could afford. I didn't have a phone, internet, or TV, because I couldn't afford them. I lived on mostly vegetarian ramen. But I had ChuChu. (And she still ate her pellets and fresh veggies even if it meant I had about a dollar a day to spend on my food!)

To the end of her life my mom couldn't even go in petstores or rescues or shows that had birds, or even places with feathers decorating the place. Her lungs would literally attack themselves. I had to change my clothes to go visit her.

If someone has a deadly reaction to an animal then it is best for the person AND the animal to not have the animals anywhere around. That means not on the property. Beyond that, it is simply, without question, cruel and dangerous to house the guinea pigs outside.

My sister has bad allergies to rabbits -- her favorite animal. She has a free range house bunny. She takes three kinds of medicine daily so that she doesn't have to give her up. My husband is a little allergic to cats -- his favorite animal - and has asthma. He goes to the allergy shot clinic twice a week and uses a lung trainer so that he can have a cat and be healthy.

On the other hand, my brother-in-law has such severe allergies to cats that any time he touches one, he ends up in the hospital. He can't go in a house with a cat. My sister-in-law has to check all food and things given to him to make sure it doesn't have a single cat hair on it. Would he get a cat and then put it outside in a hutch? Of course not! They have a beloved house bunny, an animal he's not allergic to.

It is not fair to the animal to keep it if it's just going to be left outside, with no floor time and little interaction. It's just selfish. Period. If they really are a "part of your family" then treat them like family.

[Skinny Pig]

I want to suggest putting a roof on the top of the putdoor cage with tarp on the grids or shelving so the rain doesn't get in.

I believe that it is also a personal choice whether you leave them inside or out, but if you leave them outside and they die due to weather, don't come crying to me.

If you want to, you could make a ceiling cage. I've never seen it done before but I have an image n my head about one. Instead of a cage on a table or the floor, hang it from the roof? I have no idea if this is safe or not, but you could try it.

[s.edwards]

I know in my area cats are held to the same leash laws as dogs are. If the cat is continually invading your property I would call your local animal control so they can have a talk to the cat owner.can you maybe make it a part-in time and part-out time?

[tk-421]

I was just reading this thread and i got so annoyed that i just had to join to voice my opinion.

What are you all doing. i mean some one puts a post asking for help as they have found that they are allergic to there pet that is a part of the family and instead of offering help all you all do is just rip in to them with a mightier that thou mentality.

I wonder what any of you would do if someone in your family became allergic to your pigs you "advice" of Give them to a new home. hardly helpful. could you give up your pets that you loved? if you really loved them you would not.

you do know that you made the member who posted this thread leave this forum because of how you treated them. i hope you are all please with your selfs. that you turned on someone in there time of need.

as for onkers having to live in side. now correct me if im wrong but guinea pigs live outside in the wild. from what you all where saying you make it sound like they will die if you show them the outside. what do you think they did befor humans brought the in to there homes?

now im sure that my post will eather be removed from this thread or you will all just presume that i know nothing of guinea pigs and moan about me. but for your information i do have a lot of knowledge of guinea pigs. I have been a guinea pig breeder for 15 years and All my guinea pigs lived OUTSIDE all the time and they where the Happyest guinea pigs i have ever seen. you know what I never had a guinea pig die of heat or cold and i live in England.

i am never going to come back to this forum this is my 1st and last post. so dont bother posting any thing about me. just think what you might of done to that poor person who came here looking for help and only got Abuse and Bulling. I hope you are all very proud.

[Paula]

Originally Posted by tk-421

What are you all doing. i mean some one puts a post asking for help as they have found that they are allergic to there pet that is a part of the family and instead of offering help all you all do is just rip in to them with a mightier that thou mentality.

There’s no “mightier than though” mindset or mentality. Members of this forum are committed to guinea pigs and seeing them live healthy, happy lives, being properly cared for. The notion that guinea pigs are being attacked by a cat (you did read the title, yes?) because of a choice the poster made is deeply disturbing to many members here and they are obliged to speak out about it.

Originally Posted by tk-421

I wonder what any of you would do if someone in your family became allergic to your pigs you "advice" of Give them to a new home. hardly helpful. could you give up your pets that you loved? if you really loved them you would not.

Well. If I really loved them I’d prefer to see them in an indoor home where they are being cared for properly rather than banishing them to a life outside where they’re exposed to the elements, not to mention insects and other animal attacks.

My husband is allergic to my guinea pigs. We’ve made accommodations so he doesn’t have to handle or encounter them. It’s really not that hard, and if the allergy were so severe he was facing death because of it (which, by the way, is a bogus notion) I would choose to rehome the animals to a home where they’d be loved and cared for properly LONG before I’d choose to force them to live outside where it’s too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter, and where they’d often face the very real possibility of being attacked by neighborhood cats, raccoons, etc. One is a humane choice that would no doubt hurt to have to make, because I love my animals and I have made a commitment to them for the duration of their lives. The other is a selfish choice that would allow me to keep said animals, but to their detriment, and for no real good other than it would allow me to still have possession of them.

Originally Posted by tk-421

you do know that you made the member who posted this thread leave this forum because of how you treated them. i hope you are all please with your selfs. that you turned on someone in there time of need.

If this person chose to leave, it was strictly his/her choice. No one’s going to say something this awful is acceptable simply so that the original poster doesn’t have to feel bad for a choice s/he is making that’s doing real, tangible harm to the pets for which she is tasked with providing care.

Originally Posted by tk-421

as for onkers having to live in side. now correct me if im wrong but guinea pigs live outside in the wild. from what you all where saying you make it sound like they will die if you show them the outside. what do you think they did befor humans brought the in to there homes?

Onkers?

Guinea pigs in the wild are not stuffed into a cage with no means of escape should they be threatened by another animal. Guinea pigs in the wild have a reasonable ability to shelter themselves from cold or heat.

Originally Posted by tk-421

now im sure that my post will eather be removed from this thread or you will all just presume that i know nothing of guinea pigs and moan about me.

No, it’s not being removed, and although I can’t speak for anyone else here, I am not presuming that you “know nothing” about guinea pigs. I’m presuming you’re a pet owner who would always put your needs and desires above the innocent animals you’ve chosen to make a part of your life.

Originally Posted by tk-421

but for your information i do have a lot of knowledge of guinea pigs. I have been a guinea pig breeder for 15 years and All my guinea pigs lived OUTSIDE all the time and they where the Happyest guinea pigs i have ever seen. you know what I never had a guinea pig die of heat or cold and i live in England.

Well. Outstanding. Being a breeder lends no credibility to your claims or your story. That you thought your guinea pigs were happy living outside simply tells me that you have no experience with guinea pigs living indoors being cared for properly. Of course they’d seem “happy” if they know nothing different. That they live outside means you probably don’t notice when they’re sick, or acting off, much less when they’re threatened by wild animals or other elements. You’re breeding these animals while countless others face euthanasia and other unknown horrors in shelters. Out. Standing.

Originally Posted by tk-421

i am never going to come back to this forum this is my 1st and last post.

We can most certainly hope.

Originally Posted by tk-421

so dont bother posting any thing about me.

Members will be allowed to respond to your silliness, just as you were allowed to post it in the first place. You made the choice to post here and you don’t get to control what people may or may not have to say in response.

Originally Posted by tk-421

just think what you might of done to that poor person who came here looking for help and only got Abuse and Bulling. I hope you are all very proud.

Yes, I hope you’re quite proud of yourself as well. While you breed animals for your own selfish reasons, I hope you keep in mind that others are dying because of people like yourself. Oh, but yours are happy living outside in a hutch, so it's all okay. Right?