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About LinkBacksI was very surprised that nobody posted the story about the 4 yr old girl that was mauled to death by the family dog. So sad. http://www.kboi2.com/news/85959372.html#idc-container
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I was very surprised that nobody posted the story about the 4 yr old girl that was mauled to death by the family dog. So sad. http://www.kboi2.com/news/85959372.html#idc-container
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Sad, tragic and (likely) completely preventable.
I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that the dog that did this (and the previous dog that was killed for aggression) were both unaltered animals.
It's an eye-opening statistic that EVERY* (American) fatal dog attack has been by an unspayed/unneutered dog. The news needs to make a bigger deal about that. Perhaps that fact will be a catalyst to get some laws changed.
*If the statistics and information I've researched is correct. At the very least I would guess that the overwhelming majority (97% or greater) are by unaltered animals
The fact that they had one dog removed for "aggression" and put down prior to this makes me question what kind of training if any at all they had done with the Rottweilers. Dogs that have an aggressive instinct, Pitbulls, Dobermans, Rott's, German Shepards, Chow's to name a few, require extensive obediance training and a non-agressive adult hand to work with them. While yes, the unaltered, especially in male dogs, can be a factor, training of these dogs is a huge factor that it is done correctly. Most of the child maulings or maulings you hear about are the agressive natured dogs and most can go back to how the dog has been trained or even how they have been played with.
My heart goes out to the family...very very sad.
That is very interesting. A child in my neighborhood was badly mauled by a family pet. Unaltered Neopolitan Mastiff. And a lady in a nearby town was badly disfigured when her choc. lab bit her face. That dog was also unaltered and a pet they'd had for years and years. Autopsy of the dog showed a brain tumor in that case.Originally Posted by VoodooJoint
Wow I didn't know the link between alteration and dog attacks. That's pretty damned amazing.
Dogs that aren't neutered (particularily males) aren't sexually frustrated because of this. They do, however, have more testosterone compared to the neutered male which can increase dominance and some cases increased aggression tendencies.
Dogs do not have 'Agressive traits', though they do have prey drive and if this isn't handelled properly or the dog is not stimulated it will act out in what seems like aggressive instincts when in reality it's a prey drive that was paired with high levels or testosterone and dominance, to not see warning signals from a dog that is agitated or to misunderstand the dog's 'Get away from me, or I'll do something' signals is very unfortunate.
I've seen many cases where children are bitten because of an adult's misunderstanding towards the dog's signals.
Again I'm forced to say, I wish people would get animals that they can control, stimulate and train rather than a 'Tough looking animal' like A rottwieler, chaining it to a post in the yard, not neutering it and then destroying it when someone gets bit. It's sad to say but I'm almost positive that it was not this dogs' fault.
That's crazy! Normally when there is a dog attack, people normally focus on the breed and not if it's altered or not.
Whenever I have heard/read about a dog attack I don't think "Humm, I wonder if it's fixed", but now I might, it's something to think about.
The problem too is that aggression was bread into certain breads for training. They have had problems with golden retrievers now biting people and if i remember correctly are actually in the top 5 biters.
Training is everything along with exercise and discipline. I know plenty of happy and fun loving pitbulls, rotties and other large breed. My friends however know how to take car of these animals and did their homework before adopting them.
It is sad and the unaltered thing is very interesting
So now I bet people will say goldens are mean! This is stupid! A BREED of dog cannot be 'mean'. A certain (usually untrained) dog can be. I'm not saying that you are saying they are mean, I'm just talking about the general public.
I think all of those 'facts' can be disregarded. I bet hundreds of thousands dog bites go unreported. People are more likely to get medical attention for a rottie bite than a chihuahua bite. I bet like 1 out of on billion chihuahua bites are treated and reported! But does that mean the the rottie bites more?! NO! And the reason Golden retrievers are on the top biter list, or whatever, is because there are so many of them! Of corse if there are more goldens than rotties, goldens are more likely to bite more. They don't have as strong of bite pressure, but they still bite. All of this makes me so angry!
Ibbet (03-04-10), Kareen (03-03-10), xoLauraox09 (03-03-10)
Dog bites are different from maulings (fatal or not). Statistically, dog bites will happen by the dog breed that is most common. The simple fact is that dogs bite--all of them--big, little, altered or unaltered. However, take a look at the statistics for dogs responsible for fatal attacks. Goldens aren't even on the list
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/breeds-causing-DBRFs.pdf
Last edited by VoodooJoint; 03-03-10 at 09:22 pm.
But while all dog breeds bite, bites are not proportional to the population size of the breed. There are of course reasons for that other than the nature of the breed (i.e. certain breeds are often chosen by inappropriate owners or are kept in inappropriate situations).
I disagree very emphatically with the positions of the anti-pit advocacy group in your second cite and am disappointed that they're being cited here at all.
My nephew was attacked by a neutered german shepard. I think thats not always the case. I have three unneutered and two unspayed dogs here and none are agresive twards humans.
I have a Pit (breed for fighting but rescued from it) a greman shepard wolf mix 2 dachsunds and a weird named farm dog none of which are aggressive I thinks it how they were raised unless a different cause (a tumor or other).
Last edited by magicaldreamr89; 03-03-10 at 08:59 pm.
Please... Neuter your pet so they don't have babies and add puppy to an overpopulated pet world. Million of puppy are euthenized every year. For the dafety of your pet, and other people pet, please spay and neuter.
I will happily remove that link. My intention wasn't to single out any particular breed or to advocate any sort of BSL. I was not as interested in their position as I am with the statistics they provide.
I am assuming your nephew is stil alive? If so then he is not an example of a fatal mauling.
On a seperate note the apparent lack of responsiblility you and your family show in dog ownership is staggering.
Thank you, I appreciate that very much. I figured as much.
Are you basing that on them not being fixed, or did you read the post to mean the nephew was mauled by one of their dogs?
Yes, this is a tradgedy (spelling ?) but people don't know the responsibility when it comes to pets. You have to get your animals altered and you also have to know some pets aren't good around little children. The little girl (RIP) may have spooked the dog and the dog just jumped. Maybe not. I'm sorry for their loss but people have to know what they are getting themselves into when the get a pet.
No he wasn't killed and the dog wasn't our dog, but he (the dog) was killed (by three of our dogs) but my point was just because he was neutered doesnt mean hes not aggressive and able or going to kill. He ripped my nephews whole cheek off (dangling) and hadn't it been for my sisters pits he would off got his throat. Im against anyone or anything that groups people and animals in to groups by breed, unaltered, color, gender or age. Im not argueing but I think its a bit hard to say every dog that killed is unneutered.
I'm not sure if these people should even own dogs. I'm leaning towards 'no'. These doggies have a lot of energy and must be socialized, exercised, and trained. Dobies, as well. Were they doing that? Who leaves their baby and toddler home alone with a big dog?
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