Pitbull accused of sexual assult

[envisionary333]

Thank you for clarifying the situation for us. I completely agree about the bad reputation pit bulls are burdened with. If a pit bull attacks someone, the newspaper headline usually says "Pit Bull Attack!" If a dog of a different breed attacks someone, the headlines read "Dog Attack" instead and don't bother to make a special distinction about the breed. The whole situation is biased and self-reinforcing. I'm not at all surprised that the owners are to blame, and I hope that poor pit bull is rewarded a second chance at life with a new, more responsible owner.

[PurplePoe]

Either way you look at it, I blame the "parents."

There was a case a couple of years ago near my location where a "father" claimed that his 5 month old lab puppy picked up his infant son and shook him to death. Thankfully, the police weren't morons and quickly figured out that the dad did it and then blamed the dog.

At times like this I almost want to say, "spay and neuter your people."

Poe

[envisionary333]

Originally Posted by PurplePoe

Either way you look at it, I blame the "parents."

Did you read the whole thread? The parents taught the dog to behave like that, and they were drug dealers. I think there is no one else to blame except the parents. (If you did read the whole thread already I apologize, but in your statement it seems like you haven't.)

[MissCin]

Did you read the whole thread? The parents taught the dog to behave like that, and they were drug dealers. I think there is no one else to blame except the parents. (If you did read the whole thread already I apologize, but in your statement it seems like you haven't.)]

Umm, he/she did say the parents are to blame for. "I blame the "parents."" Or am I mis understanding something? I'm confused.

[PurplePoe]

Actually, I did read the whole thread, but since the last bit about the dog's training was not accompanied by any documentation (aka proof) I reserve to make my judgement based upon the articles that have been provided.

Therefore, if it did happen it's because the parent was an idiot and left the child alone with an unneutered dog. If it didn't happen it's because the parent (or whomever is being protected by a lie) is a pedophile and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

Poe

[suzilovespiggie]

I am so relieaved to read your post skinnypiggys. I was worried about the dog. I am glad he is ok. I do hope the owners get theres.

[Hooray4Ashley]

Pit Bull "Molested And Attacked" Toddler?

The voice on Buffalo, New York's WBEN news radio broadcast promised “bizarre and disturbing” news about “an attack on a small boy by a pit bull.” That wasn’t the unusual part. Scare stories about pit bull attacks appear in news coverage almost as regularly as weather forecasts.

What made this one so strange, though, was the mother’s claim that the dog allegedly anally raped her two-year-old son.

The toddler is in guarded condition in Buffalo's Women's & Children's Hospital after undergoing reconstructive surgery. The dog is locked up in the Niagara County SPCA, and the mother’s demanding that it be euthanized as soon as possible.

Only one local paper vowed to dig deeper. The expert evaluation of the dog's behavior was going to be released on Saturday, June 14 in the The Lockport Union-Sun & Journal, but "StinkyJournalism" already discovered the results during a conversation with Niagara County SPCA's executive director, Albert Chille.

"They can't believe that it actually occurred," says Chille.

“This Story Does Not Add Up.”


A WIVB news report claimed that the President of the Niagara Frontier Veterinary Society corroborated the story. According to the article, an unnamed expert stated that the parents may have missed warning signs, and that a two-year-old dog reaching “sexual maturity” should not be left alone with a small child.

Her words, however, were taken completely out of context. Stephanie Wolf, the misrepresented leader of NFVS, explained that a two-year-old dog can display aggression when reaching sexual maturity. “Aggression,” she told us in an exclusive interview, "[means] biting, not raping.” She never intended to suggest that parents need to fear potential rape by their family pet.

“Just coming from the standpoint of having worked with dogs that are breeding, [getting young dogs to mate] is not an easy thing,” said a frustrated Wolf. “For a dog to have done this in a fraction of a moment, sounds to me a little strange. This story does not add up.”

WIVB also made it appear that Albert Chille, the executive director of the Niagara County SPCA, verified the credibility of the story, when in fact he contradicted it. In a news story titled “Bizarre and Disturbing Dog Attack,” they quoted Chille as saying, “My understanding is the child had no bites on him at all … I guess the message is be respectful of a dog, until you absolutely know the animal” (ellipsis original).

One wonders what part of the interview was stricken where the ellipsis now stand. In my interview with Chille for further comment, he noted that the lack of bite marks on the boy was another reason to disbelieve the mother’s story. While Chille mentioned that it was not his role to speculate to the press, he had plenty to say to us about his skepticism.

For example, Chille said in 27 years at the SPCA he has never heard of a dog raping a child, and neither had any of his colleagues.

“Not to get crude about it,” he says to me as a disclaimer, explaining that a male dog attaches his claws to the sides of the female dog while mating. “It just seems to me that there would be something on the child.”

He was also disturbed by how adamant the mother was about wanting the dog (“Bear”) put down before the investigation was over and assured me that would not happen so long as he’s guarding the pooch. On Thursday, he says he received 30 emails, “most of them saying they want to adopt [the dog], none of whom blamed the dog and felt sorry for the boy. … I am toying with the idea of going to a rescue group with it.”

Most telling, perhaps, was Chille revelation that the mother of the injured boy is no longer reachable at her residence. “Now, [the mother] has relocated. One of the agents went to her house, and the door was shut. The neighbors said she will not be coming back.” Her flight is not proof of culpability or involvement as an accessory, but Chille said it raised his eyebrows.


An Alternative Hypothesis and a Question That Needs Asking

The dog seems to be in safe hands now. What about the boy?

The Women’s & Children’s Hospital has been told by the mother not to release information about the medical condition of the child. However, we asked the public information spokesman John Moscato if the hospital was shielding him, and whether they'd reported suspected abuse to child protective services.

“Child protective services and all of the appropriate authorities have been notified in this case,” he stated. It’s difficult to believe that they would be taking such measures if they were certain that the jailed dog was the culprit.

Surprisingly, no press reports that we've been able to find have investigated alternative scenarios with human perpetrators. Were “bizarre and disturbing” headlines more appealing?

Assuming the mother’s story is wrong, and is becoming less credible by the moment, there is a more obvious hypothesis: this was a human crime.

It's unclear whether the story was reported the way it was out of a misplaced sense of propriety, or lurid sensationalism. Evidence, however, indicates that the press has lent credibility to the preposterous alibi of a child rapist, leaving a two-year-old in continued danger of molestation while sending an innocent pit bull to be put to sleep.

Fortunately, the director of the Niagara County SPCA and the Women & Children's Hospital are not just going with the assumption that the dog did it.

[envisionary333]

Originally Posted by PurplePoe

Actually, I did read the whole thread, but since the last bit about the dog's training was not accompanied by any documentation (aka proof) I reserve to make my judgement based upon the articles that have been provided.

Therefore, if it did happen it's because the parent was an idiot and left the child alone with an unneutered dog. If it didn't happen it's because the parent (or whomever is being protected by a lie) is a pedophile and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

OK, sorry, my mistake.

[katiecavyNC]

When I read this story, I thought there was no way that ANY male dog could do this to a kid unless someone was baiting the dog and holding the kid down.

Many years ago (as a young person - not anymore...) I was pretty involved in conformation dog showing and breeding. I can attest to the difficulty in getting dogs to breed sometimes - and that's holding the female still, etc.

Male dogs grasp the female and (forgive the bluntness) it usually takes several 'humps' before their penis finds the female's vagina. The female HAS to be willing or held down or it just won't work - they will squirm out of the way and he won't get the right spot.

That's why in the recent case of M. Vick and the pit bull fighting they describe 'rape stands' - that's a device they use to hold the female still and keep her from getting away or fighting the male when breeding.

As a mom to 4 kids, all of whom have been 2 yrs old at one point, I absolutely can't see ANY WAY that a child could be raped by a dog. First of all, was the kid naked?? Secondly, was he on all fours? If he was just bending over, or sitting/standing, the dog would have knocked him down and then how in the world would the 'angle' been right? Even if the dog grabbed him around the waist with his paws, the kid would have been screaming and sqirming to get away - would have collapsed on his stomach, not 'assumed the position' for the dog to be able to get an angle. All true pits I've seen would be WAAAAYYYY stonger and bigger than the typical 2 yr old.

Now, all of that assumes the dog would have even be 'aroused' in the first place. Male dogs, while they will hump for dominance (whether neutered or not), are not sexually aroused by people, generally. I can't see him getting that worked up to even attack the child in that way unless there was a dog in heat around where the scent was setting him off. While some dogs 'hump' people and objects, this is almost always a dominance thing, not a rape attempt - the dog is not thinking he is mating your leg or the pillow, he's just trying to dominate. That's the same thing female dogs are doing when they mount each other or people, etc. They aren't trying to mate with you, just prove they are more dominate.

I personally think this is a horrible case of abuse with a mother trying really hard to explain a child's horrific injury. Either this kid was held down and the dog really inticed to mount the kid for some sicko fetish fantasy, or this kid was abused by someone who wanted really badly to cast the suspicion on the dog and not a person.

The whole story just doesn't add up, as others have said before... my $2 worth, as someone with experience with breeding dogs and how male dogs behave sexually.

Oh, and for the record, it is the male's penis that causes the tie. When copulating, the male ejactulates within just a couple of seconds after he enters the female - basically within a few movements. Then the base of the penis swells, keeping the penis 'tied' in the female. It takes usually around 10-20 min for the penis swelling to go down and to release the tie. The theory is that the tie is to keep other dogs from mounting the bitch until the sperm has time to get up into the uterus, closer to the eggs to be fertilized. That way, if the female does mate again soon afterwards, the first dog's sperm has a head start. That isn't to say that females can't breed with multiple dogs in a heat period. There are many litters documented out there (when females aren't keep restricted during their heat cycle) where there is more than one father for the puppies.

[petz-r-life]

that's crazy! another post on here talked about a woman throwing her puppy under a truck to it's death, but they let her get another dog because her puppy was not human and it doesn't count as murder! a dog should not be charged with sexual assault if a woman is not going to be charged for the murder of a puppy!

[YuselinMaikel]

Originally Posted by salana

Something's fishy about this story. She left the room for "just a minute" and in that minute the dog ran up to where the kid was, took out his penis, and jammed it into an unlubricated, small rectum?

I think there's some underlying neglect and/or abuse going on here. If it weren't for the neighbors supposedly having seen the dog and the boy, I would have assumed the boy was abused by his father or other male human and the dog was a cover story. It does seem like at the very least the boy and the dog were left unattended for far longer than "just a minute".

I agree with you, I have never heard a case like this, and I have heard fathers abused their own children and also blamed it to another person in this case is an animal. This is so weird that I don't know what to think.

[muffynilla]

Again with the pit bulls! definently the worst pit bull case I've seen in a while, Is Michael Vick, He kept the dogs in cages, and they had this huge cage full of tiny newborn kittens, and they would throw a kitten in the bulls cage and teach them to kill, I cried when I heard this

[i-love-nev]

How come this gets spread out when a cow (yes a cow!) was supposedly "sexuallu assaulted" by a teenage at night OMG *faints* the world is mental now-a-days!

[i-love-nev]

Originally Posted by suzilovespiggie

Yes, my two are fixed. Mounting a child yes, not the whole thing, in a minute. Yes that is true you must wait for the dog to finish. I still think the whole thing sounds like a cover up.

'yes, that is true you must wait for the dog to finish' OMG suzi! hahahaahaaha I can't stop laughing!