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Old 07-11-07, 10:54 pm
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I own 2 pitbulls and they both are dolls.
And they are fixed, right? That makes a big difference.
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I can't imagine why the dog would keep running if it was physically dragging a human body by the most sensitive part of its body.
I agree. I still think that there is something fishy going on even if they took DNA tests.
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I agree totally with DocDoLittle. While pitbulls can be rowdy if untamed, I have a friend with a pitbull that is a total sweetheart to them and their young kids.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

We had a dog that mounted our daughter when she was two. He was neutered so I figured it was a dominance thing for him. He got reprimanded immediately and never did it again. So I can see a dog mounting a child.

It says the neighbors beat the dog to get it off the boy. Um, dogs don't come "unattached" that way.
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Old 07-12-07, 03:00 am
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Yes, my two are fixed. Mounting a child yes, not the whole thing, in a minute. Yes that is true you must wait for the dog to finish. I still think the whole thing sounds like a cover up.
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It says the neighbors beat the dog to get it off the boy. Um, dogs don't come "unattached" that way.
That's exactly what my husband said. He's seen dogs mate before so he knows all about the knot that's formed.

He also agrees with Salana's point that it seems an awful lot of work for the dog to have actually penetrated the child that quickly and effectively. Let's be honest, it kind of defies the laws of nature. I don't think a dog could have quite so much precision seeing as how he's all 'paws.' However, a man does have that precision.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

The breed of the dog has nothing to do with incident. All breeds mount and hump in a show of dominance. Never have I ever seen or heard of that resulting with penetration and being locked together. If this actually happened, it a perversion of human making. The dog would have to be taught to do this by human beings. The article didn't say how long the family had the dog as a pet. Hopefully the authorities will be examining this family very closely. There could be charges of child neglect and endagerment AND animal abuse, cruelty and beastiality.
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Never have I ever seen or heard of that resulting with penetration and being locked together. If this actually happened, it a perversion of human making. The dog would have to be taught to do this by human beings.
You have probably only witnessed neutered dogs mounting as a display of dominance. When a dog that isn't neutered mounts in a sexual effort rather than a dominance display, the dog will swell and remain "tied" to the other dog after ejaculation. It has nothing to do with humans, it's just the way a dog physically accomplishes mating. The owner doesn't teach a dog to do this, but they can teach their dog not to do it.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

I am sick to my stomach, I don't know if its possible or not. But obviously something terrible happened to that little boy. I hope that the authorities get the truth and punish ALL involved. I would never leave my child alone with an animal for even a minute. I know what this site is about, however, I am shocked at the response to this thread.

That poor poor dog, probably being wrongly accused, and as an afterthought, that's really sad about the little boy, BUT that poor dog.
I think that it is the parent's job to protect their children. They should have NEVER left their children alone with a pitbull (or any dog).
I am not convinced that they are telling the truth, it is definately "fishy" as some have said.

But that poor little boy. I hope he will be ok.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

Even neuterd dogs can become tied, it's not just from ejaculation, I wonder if it's the female that clamps. Because my male is neutered and we had a foster dog that was in heat, and they were tied for a good five to 1o minutes, and they have to seperate on their own. I am starting to think it's the female that does the tying, because how could my male do it, he's been neuterd for 3 yrs? This whole story, is so sad, that poor boy.I am sure at 2 he can talk, I wonder if the truth will come out from the poor little guy. Either way, human or dog, that poor child, it makes me so sad, my son just turned 3, and I can't imagine something so painful happening to such a little child.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

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Experts say Sexual Attack by Dog is 'Possible' | WKBW - TV Buffalo, New York | Local News

There is a link just above the store that you watch, it's a video of the news story.

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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

I know it's minor, but one story says that the dog ran outside attached to the dog, where the neighbor saw it, and the other story says the owner ran inside. Inconsistent stories?
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Even neuterd dogs can become tied, it's not just from ejaculation, I wonder if it's the female that clamps. Because my male is neutered and we had a foster dog that was in heat, and they were tied for a good five to 1o minutes, and they have to seperate on their own. I am starting to think it's the female that does the tying, because how could my male do it, he's been neuterd for 3 yrs?
I've been doing a little researching on the subject and I haven't found any source that claims a female causes the tie, only the male. However, I did learn that the swelling does not relate directly to ejaculation, although during an ejaculation it is always swollen. It can be swollen without an ejaculation, so I suppose a neutered dog could do that anyway. I've had a spayed female and neutered male dog together for years and he never made any sexual advances towards her at all, so I found that surprising. While a dog that isn't neutered still might mount, I doubt they do it with the same vigor or intent, though.

Anyway, the bottom line is that the dog should have been neutered and the baby shouldn't have been left alone.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

This whole episode is surreal and bizarre... regardless of whether there was deliberate abuse here or a crazy accident... (I agree it sounds fishy) the whole 'dog accused of sexual assault' is sensationalist and absurd. Sexual assault requires a level of awareness/cognition that dogs simply don't have. I'm not sure of all the exact legal and psychological details- but I have doubts you can charge a dog for any human crime like this. All this does is polarize people further against the pit bulls who are demonized already and set this poor kid up to terrible shame when he gets older (oh you're the kid that got raped by the dog?)

Any way you look at it, it's a tragedy for both the victims. The poor boy and whatever injuries he sustained, and the poor dog who was only following his instincts and ended up being abused. "I had to beat up on the dog to take him away from the baby," he said. If an accident, the whole thing could have been avoided (probably) or certainly handled more delicately. Very sad.
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

Honostly. Are people becoming so stupid that they are going to accuse and ANIMAL of breaking a human law? I mean, murdur I can understand, but sexual assult?
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Re: Pitbull accused of sexual assult

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I couldn't agree more, this is terrible for both the child and the dog
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