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Krysanthemum · #81 08-01-05, 06:22 pm

Australia gets a lot of wild animals (wombats, kangaroos, wallabies, foxes) injured by cars, so there are a lot of shelters set up for them, one particularly called WIRES (Wildlife Information and Rescue Service). The RSPCA deals with abandoned pets (cats, dogs, birds etc), but there aren't really many shelters for smaller animals like guinea pigs, they're just not a common enough pet.

**Susan9608** · #82 08-01-05, 10:35 pm

That's interesting - I didn't know shelters take in wild animals. What happens to them when the shelter takes them? Do they get released back into the wild or housed in a refuge type place? Or do people actually adopt them?

Krysanthemum · #83 08-02-05, 01:25 am

I'm not 100% certain, but the wild animals stay in the shelter until they're well, and then are released back into the wild. I know a lot of shelters have 'helpers' who take the sick/hurt animals into their homes and look after them while they heal, and then they're released again. I'm not sure it's legal to keep wild birds or animals as pets, especially kangaroos, which are considered a pest in some rural areas.

**midnitemustang** · #84 11-22-05, 12:35 pm

I can't belive you just said that people who breed and show care about the glory. Showing is so much different than breeding! I can see poor piggies in breeding but what's so wrong with showing?!?!?!? they arre two completly different things.

**VoodooJoint** · #85 11-22-05, 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by midnitemustang

I can't belive you just said that people who breed and show care about the glory. Showing is so much different than breeding! I can see poor piggies in breeding but what's so wrong with showing?!?!?!? they arre two completly different things.

They go hand in hand.

Let me guess you are a friend of Squeaky-pigs and followed her link over here to troll? Right?

We are a rescue oriented forum. We do not accept breeding, buying, selling, showing or abusing Guinea Pigs as acceptable.

Now, that being said I expect no further breeding/showing nonsense out of your mouth. I also expect you to read the rules of the forum.http://cavycages.com/forum/announcem...nouncementid=7

**Cathy's Piggies** · #86 02-18-06, 03:16 pm

i have two malepigs and i am adding on to their cage and then spliting it down the middle and sepporating them.i wanna adopt some girls and now reading this i dont wanna breed.so i am thinking that i should neuter my boys. does anyone know how much it would be?

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The simple fact is that at this time there is an animal overpopulation problem. Every animal shelter and rescue is full. There are more animals then there are homes. In a situation like this breeding more is irresponsible.

Breeders of Guinea Pigs do no good at all. Their only concern is perfect spots, fur and markings. It is a rare rare thing for a breeder to care about health and genetics. Even if they do care they breed their animals so young that health issues have not shown up yet and they end up passing them on to their offspring anyway.

Breeders that sell their GPs to pet shops are the lowest of the low. These people do not care one bit what happens to their animals. Think about it. If they really cared they would not risk that the animals they brought into this world would end up in a poor home or as reptile food.

I have yet to find a truly responsible GP breeder. To fit the responsible criteria they would need to:
-have home prearranged for the babies BEFORE they breed.
-spay/neuter all animals they sell
-rescue GPs as well as breed and NEVER breed their rescues
-never cull undesirable GPs. Instead they would keep them and care for them no matter how special their needs are.

The only way to stop them is to not support them. By buying from a breeder or pet shop you are supporting a cruel industry. One made up of blood money. People need to stop seeing animals as disposable objects. Put the rescues and shelters out of "business" by adopting all of the animals and then I will listen to breeder arguments. Until then they are the root of the problem and the people that buy from them, no matter how round-about, are their supporters.

**VoodooJoint** · #87 02-18-06, 03:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Cathy's Piggies

i have two malepigs and i am adding on to their cage and then spliting it down the middle and sepporating them.i wanna adopt some girls and now reading this i dont wanna breed.so i am thinking that i should neuter my boys. does anyone know how much it would be?

I have just rescued a male GP. He is getting neutered so that I can keep him with my 3 femals GPs. The cost of his neuter is $97.00.

Instead of houseing the females with the males you should just leave the boys together, After all, if they get along, there is no need to break up a compatable, possibley bonded pair of males. You can house the females seperately. Just be certain that there is no possible way that they could meet. You do not want accidental pregnancies any more then you would want to breed on purpose.

**Fluffball** · #88 02-19-06, 12:36 am

I would like to post in regards to many of the australian based veiws regarding shelters and pigs. There are actually two guinea pig/small animal shelters in the NSW sydney area. And two members here run them.

Queensland also has a guinea pig rescue, and received seven more homeless guinea pigs in the last 2 months. She is also a member here.

The RSPCA site does not regularly have guinea pigs, however I recently found 3 boars at yagoona RSPCA and one female at the blue mountains. So yes there are shelters and yes there are guinea pigs in shelters in Australia.

I found all this information on cavycages from the actual members who run these rescues in the Australian section. I dont think it can be easily missed, especially if you look at this site everyday, or even do a quick search on cavy cages.

If Australia continues to breed how many more years will it be before we have an overpopulation problem? It will happen eventually. Im sure that America didnt always have an overpopulation of guinea pigs? It happened gradually, and i'm afraid that if we continue to breed here, one day Australia will have the exact same problem. Prevention is the key. Im already finding backyard breeder's common in my area, pet stores seem to sell gp's quite quickly. Do those pigs face a life of being bred? How many years will it be before we too have a problem equivalent to that of america?

If we adopt now and wait, search, ring, we can hopefully hold of this future. I would even pm you the phone numbers of shelters in the sydney area. I do not like the thought of facing a future here in Australia where we have thousands of guinea pigs being euthanised every year. Im afriad it may happen one day.

I know it can be hard to find a guinea pig, but here at cavycages we have at least 3 rescues to choose from, as well as waiting a while for the RSPCA to get some in. I adopted my first two after waiting months. I didnt just go to a pet store. I rang the RSPCA and waited until they got two sows in and asked them to ring me.

There are pigs here in Australia waiting for adoption. I have the numbers to call, pm me if you would like. There is no need to buy and support pet stores that continue to also sell dogs and cats, while thousands get euthanised every year because no one will adopt them at the RSPCA.

**Percy's Mom** · #89 02-19-06, 04:13 am

Thank you Fluffball. That brings up some excellent points that will hopefully open a lot of people's eyes. I'd like to add to that. Even if the shelters and rescues near you don't have any pigs now, or don't have what you're looking for, they probably will in the future. Give them your name and phone number or email address. Every place I've ever called has a "wish list" that they keep interested parties on, and they are more than glad to take your information if they know that it means a place for some of their animals in the future.

**Cathy's Piggies** · #90 02-19-06, 11:18 am

does anyone know how much it coasts to neuter your boy guinea pigs???

**Slap Maxwell** · #91 02-19-06, 11:20 am

Usually between $75-$125.

**Cathy's Piggies** · #92 02-19-06, 12:24 pm

Do you guys know how nuch money it is to neuter gps?

**Cathy's Piggies** · #93 02-19-06, 12:25 pm

oh thank you i daont know what i did but some how i put this on here 2 times sorry

**Spiffy'n'Spunky** · #94 02-24-06, 10:05 pm

I dont think that breeders are that bad, if they are the right type of people for it, and there are VERY few of those people. The breeder I got my piggies from does show her pigs but let me tell you, when i went to pick them out, she had some awesome huge cages for them all and knew each and every one (in all about 30) by name and they are all her pets.Plus she breeds only when she has enough room to accomodate any extra and she only sells her pigs to those who she knows have suitable homes. I dont think she is a bad breeder at all, but like I said, there are so few good breeders.

**Susan9608** · #95 02-24-06, 10:08 pm

If she has room to accomodate more animals, I would think someone who truly cared about the animals would use that space to adopt or rescue, rather than just breeding more. I don't think any breeder that breeds in spite of an animal over-population crisis can be called a good breeder.

**Fluffball** · #96 02-25-06, 12:20 am

I know all my pigs by name, have them in huge cages and they are all my pets. One difference between me and this breeder is I dont put my ''pets'' life at risk by breeding them . I dont contribute to the overpopulation problem.

Why breed when there are over 100 000 guinea pigs in the USA alone there are euthanised every single year. Why not save them?

**pamziaw** · #97 02-25-06, 12:56 am

HOLD UP A MO! Before we all go into what has been written in this thread alone a million times before hadn't we better ask this person why they decided to post a pro breeding statement on an anti breeding thread/forum/website?

**Fluffball** · #98 02-25-06, 05:46 am

I know the answer *I hope*, they were stating that not all breeders are bad , based on the type of person they are.

Knowing their opinion I merely stated my own.

**Spiffy'n'Spunky** · #99 02-25-06, 07:42 am

Thank you fluffball, all i am trying to say is that there are at least a few good "breeders" who care about thier pigs and wont just toss one aside because its color was wrong. Even though she doesnt rescue pigs, but im sure she would if a homeless pig were offered to her, at least she is considerate of her pigs health, life, and future home if someone were to want one.

**AliceTittle** · #**100** 02-25-06, 08:13 am

Yes, ok she may give the right care for them, but if she really loved them as pets she would never risk their life. You wouldn't risk your dogs life or your cats life, why should it be any different for a guinea pig, just because they are smaller? They are just as smart, just as cute and just as freindly, if not more. Why should she breed, and bring more animals into the world when there are millions out there with no home and no one to love them? I see your point, and if we lived in an ideal world were no animal was in a rescue and all had loving homes, then yes, perhaps this is the sort of breeder that would be needed. But things will never be that way, and if someone is devoted enough to care for animals then they should put the effort into making life better for the existing ones.