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Old 07-10-05, 04:31 pm
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

An HOUR away? You have got to be kidding me. I drove twice that far to adopt three different pigs.
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Old 07-10-05, 04:58 pm
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

Yes, an hour really isn't far. That is a lame excuse. I drove 2 hours each way to get my pigs and it was defiantly worth it!
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Old 07-10-05, 08:41 pm
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

1 hour away is nothing! By the time you jump in the car, listen to some music, you would pretty much be there! I bet Magic Taco would drive a hour to get to a Mcdonalds or something!
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Old 07-11-05, 12:56 am
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

oops, about an hour and a half to get there and an hour and a half to get back. My mum's car is very unreliable and I think the shelter moved! I didn't know if they can do that!!!
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

But I have feelings too and I don't want to be banned because I can't find a shelter.
I am going to adopt my neighbour's neglected pig one day when it's older but it really hurts my feelings that I might be banned over something I can't help. It's not my fault the shelter moved.


And it really hurt my feelings that someone says I would drive an hour to find a McDonald's than to save a pig.
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Old 07-11-05, 01:36 am
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

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But I have feelings too and I don't want to be banned because I can't find a shelter.
You aren't going to get banned because you can't find a shelter. You first said you "think" the shelter moved, then you said the shelter did move.
-Have you actually called to see if the shelter moved?
-Have you tried to find other shelters in your area?
-Have you tried looking on www.petfinder.com to see if there are pigs in your area?

Some shelters don't advertise pigs. It just takes a little searching. If you tell us where you live, we can try to help you locate pigs. If you put effort into looking for a pig, you will find a pig. Like someone else said, some shelters will help get the pig to you if you qualify to adopt.
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Old 07-11-05, 11:37 am
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

I adopted Marilyn, sight unseen. The only thing I knew at the time is that she was an abby. She was a private owner surrender, and I saved Amy (Amiable Animals) a client.

We adopted the sweetest, friendliest guinea pig. Even better, shy little Princess came alive as a dominant diva sow. They bonded quickly and have been best buddies ever since, even after adding neutered Snuggles.

With just a little effort, you can find guinea pigs without ever setting foot in a petstore.

After Marilyn, our latest two pigs came from Gainesville Guinea Pig Rescue, over 300 miles away.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

I may be adopting a guinea pig soon...
My friend knows someone who can't keep their pig. I'm going to ask my friend about more details on the subject though.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

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Sigh...I'm tired of explaining this but here goes.

Person #1 buys from a petshop...the petshop makes money and orders 5 more GPs from the breeder to replace the one sold. The person gets bored with the GP and dumps it at a shelter.

Person #2 wants a GP. They can buy from a pet shop...giving the petshop more money or they can adopt the GP at the shelter...the petshop gets no money.

Do you see how this works? By adopting we are discouraging the petshops from getting in more animals from breeders because they aren't selling as many.

The breeders will end up breeding less because they have no buyers. Less GPs are subjected to lives in horrible housing, bad food and having litter after litter until dead.
Even if there were no GPs sold in any pet stores, you would still have GPs that are mistreated by thier owners. All GP owners would have to be responsible owners to rid the world of mistreated animals. Otherwise, no matter where the GP comes from, you still have ones being mistreated. I DO agree, not to ever buy a pet from a pet store or breeder. I support adopting the ones out there already. :0)
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

Wow I so liked hearig what you all say about me once I leave.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

The question is Alfie did any of it sink in now?
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

Know because the problem is you don't understand.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

Alfie, I'm not sure that you realise that we only want to help you learn about the ideal way to care for cavies. We don't want to criticise you. To stop people seeming so critical, look at it from their point of view. All we care about is that you know exactly what is a good idea and what isn't when it comes to cavy care. We just want you listen to us; to at least seriously consider our advice and let us know exactly why you chose to ignore it. If you choose to ignore all of our help and advice, then why stick around?

By the way, it's 'no' not 'know'.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

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Know because the problem is you don't understand.
Then make me understand.

Explain why you won't adopt exactly because it doesn't make sense.

Explain why buying from a pet store is a good thing. Please weight both sides of the issue against each other.

Explain why you will not build a C&C cage. Weight out the pros and cons of both store bought and C&C cages.

Maybe if you were to fully explain everything we would understand.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

For 1, I couldn't find any guinea pigs I wanted, I got my favoritre piggy from a petstore and am keeping her memory alive.

As long as I can tell if the pig is healthy and not pregnaught it should be fine. I understand adopting and its a great thing it just doesn't seem like its for me.

For one I don't think I could build one very well. Also I had trouble finding good places for coro and cubes. I also couldn't get the parts because I can't drive. It was hard enough to convince my mom that a container won't work. The only con is price.
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For 1, I couldn't find any guinea pigs I wanted, I got my favoritre piggy from a petstore and am keeping her memory alive.
By buying from a petstore and assuring that another pig at a shelter will die, you're keeping your beloved piggie's memory alive??? And yet AGAIN I ask on behalf of all of us here, WHY do you need a pigger NOW???? Why not two weeks from now? and WHAT kind of pigger DO you like????????

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As long as I can tell if the pig is healthy and not pregnaught it should be fine. I understand adopting and its a great thing it just doesn't seem like its for me.
First of all, it's "pregnant", not pregnaught. Second, YOU will not be able to tell either about the pig just by looking at it. The petstore employee will tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear in order to make the sale. And third, I ASK AGAIN, WHY is adoption not for you? and btw, "It's just not for me" is NOT an answer.

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For one I don't think I could build one very well. Also I had trouble finding good places for coro and cubes. I also couldn't get the parts because I can't drive. It was hard enough to convince my mom that a container won't work. The only con is price.
Keywords here being "I don't think." If you did THINK, alfie, you would realize that a huge C&C (like the 2x5 I have for my two boys) costs less than half of what a barely adequate commercial cage would cost - I bought ALL the materials I needed, including the cable ties, for less than $30. An 18" x 36" commercial cage, which is NOT big enough for one pig, will cost you at least $60. If you had printed out the information on http://cavycages.com/howto.htm you would know exactly how to build a C&C very well. You don't THINK you can build one very well because you're too da*med LAZY to even attempt to build one. Bet your mom would agree with me on that, too.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

I did print out all of thsoe papers and it was to hard for me.
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I did print out all of thsoe papers and it was to hard for me.
Please EXPLAIN what was too hard (not "to") for you. Someone may have a suggestion on how to do it more easily. It's very difficult for anyone to help you (if that is indeed what you really want) if you don't tell us what you need help with.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

*laughs* Too hard? I could make the cage with my eyes closed All you do is zip tie the cubes together and score the coroplast. Easy! If you want help from us, then ask. If the instructions don't make sense, we can make it easier for you.
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Re: On Behalf of some of the GOOD petshops.

Oh my .... the critics are out in full force.

I must say, it seems rather unfair to attack a child about decisions that are pretty much out of their control. This alfieheartu has already stated that he or she cannot drive and had to speak with his/her mother in regards to the guinea pig's accomodations. Ultimately, the decisions seem to reside with this child's parents. It's one thing to present the information for the child to take to his/her parents ... but all this criticism and insults seem very counterproductive.

Besides, just because you offer advice doesn't mean someone is obligated to take it.

And I found C&C cages very difficult to make ... and to maintain ... which is why my dad and I built some of our own. Not everyone feels the same about things or has the same abilities ... especially not children or even teenages.
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